Scientists warn of unusually cold Sun: Will we face another ice age?

originally posted by: Greven
a reply to: intrptr

Um, actually the Earth is closer to the Sun during winter in the Northern Hemisphere than it is during summer.

The whole earth is further from the Sun in Winter, not just parts of it...

Wh y is earth colder in Winter?

a reply to: intrptr

The earth is closet to the sun in January and furthest from the sun in the summer.

a reply to: Ursushorribilis

You from down under?

originally posted by: darepairman
a reply to: Ursushorribilis

You from down under?

Under what?

originally posted by: seasonal
a reply to: lostbook

It is perfectly right and high handed to 100% believe in climate change/global warming.

It is 100% bonkers to believe anything other than the media pushed profitable climate change/global warming.

You and I are bonkers.

Agreed. Still, I do believe that climate is an issue. Just because Al Gore or anyone else is trying to take advantage doesn't mean that it's not real.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: Greven
a reply to: intrptr

Um, actually the Earth is closer to the Sun during winter in the Northern Hemisphere than it is during summer.

The whole earth is further from the Sun in Winter, not just parts of it...

Wh y is earth colder in Winter?

No. Throwing out a Google search as if it backs your idea is ridiculous.

Winter in the U.S. is summer in Australia.

The Earth can't both be simultaneously closer to the Sun for Australia and farther away for the U.S.

As Ursushorribilis says, the Earth is closest to the Sun in January and furthest from the Sun in July.
From Space.com - Why Earth is Closest to Sun in Dead of Winter

It's winter in the Northern Hemisphere and we're at our closest point to the Sun. Closest? Yes, you read that right. Closest. For northerners, the winter solstice has just passed. But the truth is, on January 3, 2007, Earth reaches perihelion, its closest point to the Sun in its yearly orbit around our star.

At first glance, it makes no sense. If Earth is closest to the Sun in January, shouldn't it be summer? Maybe, if you live in the Southern Hemisphere. So what does this mean?

Earth's orbit is not a perfect circle. It is elliptical, or slightly oval-shaped. This means there is one point in the orbit where Earth is closest to the Sun, and another where Earth is farthest from the Sun. The closest point occurs in early January, and the far point happens in early July (July 7, 2007). If this is the mechanism that causes seasons, it makes some sense for the Southern Hemisphere. But, as an explanation for the Northern Hemisphere, it fails miserably.

In fact, Earth's elliptical orbit has nothing to do with seasons.

a reply to: seasonal
Yey, more snow, I love snow. And the other stuff that comes with lower sun output. Not as fun, hopefully cannibalism wont be making a comeback as it was hip way way way back in the day. But you never know, trends do tend to repeat themselves.

a reply to: lostbook
Now ain't that funny. But you know what they say all the best laid plans go out the window when the first bullet is fired. Or like Mike Tyson used to say, everybody has a plan, till they get hit. We shall see right? Would not be counting on our mishaps in saving our asses.

a reply to: midnightstar
Oh ya, the planet and the atmosphere and ecology is more or less a self correcting system. Humans not so much, after all, how long did it take primitive man in caveman days Australopithecus and beyond that it was not wise to # were they slept and ate? Depending on which group, well a little over a few generations, thousands of years basically in some cases, and those that did not learn that the other offshoots of the great apes, well there not around today.

The planet is a self correcting system, humans are to, or at least to some degree. This ain't about climate change, the climate has been changing for millions and billions of years. This is more of a case of don't # were you sleep and eat. Only you know on a more broader scale. That scale I believe is called consumerism. But again, if tomorrow all humans went extinct, the planet wont even notice, and with or without humanity, the climate will continue to change and will do so millions and billions of years from now, till the sun goes cold.

Like George Carlin said. Its all just conceit. And likely bad and confusing verbiage, and communication error. Mix that in with corporate agendas, well it is one huge steaming pile of dung. Which by the way, is hilarious.

a reply to: Ursushorribilis
Well ya! We would get pretty toasty up here if it was not for all the cloud cover and atmospheric change all across the globe, and like clockwork or a well oiled machine, we don't even notice. It is a good thing that winter and a general cooling down just happens to happen, when things are at there potentially most hottest, or we would be toasty and deserts a plenty would be in every region.

The sun for the most part just lights up and illuminates the atmosphere, even the light we see is just after images of photons bouncing back and forth trapped in it, we don't actually see sunlight, just a watered down projection of it, and the atmosphere is what keeps us alive in winter, and not being turned into meat popsicles in summer.

Funny how things work eh? But its a good thing they do work. Because when they don't? Then there are issues. But even then, its still funny. Climate change right? Funny stuff, its so topsy turvy.

The topic is self explaining. You discuss mostly politics in the Fragile Earth.
It became a money tool, a control tool and a pretext to geoengineering long before a new science had a opportunity to establish and explain anything.
This science is based on EM interaction between the Sun and planets. The atmosperic highs and lows, cloud formation, climate and even earthquakes... are caused by these electro-magnetic interactions. The extremes are actually caused by the weaker magnetic fields. Sun's field is weaker - Earth's field is weaker. The poles are moving fast and maybe even flipping in which case we are doomed. Now every little c-class puff from the Sun can cause a larger reaction than a X-class a decade ago. Geomagnetic storms, hurricanes, earthquakes and of course health and psychological issues.
Get a reality grip so that you don't feel like a fool later:

a reply to: Greven

Thanks for that, that was clearer than what you said earlier:

Um, actually the Earth is closer to the Sun during winter in the Northern Hemisphere than it is during summer.

In fact, Earth's elliptical orbit has nothing to do with seasons.

I know that, it has to do with earths axis as it orbits the sun. I wasn't addressing that, originally.

weird & strange that as the Sun itself cools or does not slam our environment with intense Sunlight radiation...

that the Earth's hundreds of now energetic volcano's have come back to life and spew out mega tonnes of 'Green House' gasses to create a hot-house eco-system that will remedy the loss of Solar radiation for Sol

therefore, having a large 'carbon footprint' is not detrimental to the Planet ---- It is saving our planet from a potential plant kingdom collapse

put that in-your-pipe-&-smoke-it...Al Gore

a reply to: Ursushorribilis

the equater

a reply to: seasonal

What's the point of asking? we won't be around to see it-to quote that cosmetic advertisement "it won't happen overnight but it will happen."

IF the sun is cooling i'd be more worried about emerging sunspots or CME's, the latter can happen overnight but ice ages take thousands of years. I'd be more worried about the power grid ATM then an ice age.

Scientists warn of unusually cold Sun: Will we face another ice age?

Is it me?

They sound like Goldie Locks.

Too hot.

Too cold.

a reply to: PapagiorgioCZ
Oh wow, never knew people feared the sun this much. Though they should, the sun is extremely scary, in fact the sun is super scary, an vast magnitude beyond regular ol scary, maybe even to super duper scary.

But really they should establish a reversal rate people can understand on this whole magnetic sphere, to climate change scenario, because the way its going. Its going to shift and even reverse in a very short rate. Yup very short, or at least depending on your definition of short? I mean at that rate now in but a few thousand years from now it may shift to a degree were it may be problematic for a great majority of people and everything else walking, crawling, and swimming the planet, and even those that are flying will feel it.

Earths field isn't weaker, its just on the move or shift or whatever people want to call it. Hopefully it wont move or shift to were we will be having summer in winter, because that would be not cool. Pun intended, it would definitely not be cool. I mean it would not be that bad, it just would not be that good at all.

But hey even if it happens, I am sure we will evolve to deal with it. Or die out, or whatever, # happens you know, there is a reason why 90% of all the species that lived are gone now, and that reason is...Many reasons.

a reply to: neo96
Nah! Must be just you. To hot, and to cold, is an oversimplification especially in terms of celestial bodies in relations to one another. Whoever came up with the Goldie Locks zone was probably not aware how close ursa major is. There's got to be a bear in the story, right? In fact 3 of them.

But finding that "just right porridge" is of the upmost importance. Especially if it's actually is porridge your talking about, though some like there porridge hot, and some like it cold, and some hate it when its right in between.

We have an opportunity to watch the effect of a relatively small, long duration CME from a C-class solar flare.
Time of the impact is estimated wednesday or thursday, followed by a coronal hole stream.
Nothing major you'd say. We'll see.
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originally posted by: SlapMonkey

That's a pretty big amount, and if this turns out to be true, it might be a way to estimate how much of the past warming is attributable solely to the sun's activity as well.

blasphemer.