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Donald and 33 Degree Freemasonary

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posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 06:21 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I know....sometimes you just have to shake your head and walk away.




posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: AMPTAH
Well, masons do make all sorts of outrageous claims.

Name 3 outrageous claims we make.

Go...



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 06:32 PM
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a reply to: AMPTAH

Are you deaf??

After the guys says, "...38, under the blood", Commander Orange actually says: "..Actually Amazing"

Actually Amazing. And if you listen you can hear the imperceptible, "that's" just before it to make it :

"That's actually amazing", or more like, " S'actually amazing, I wouldn't know"

Which is in reference to what that other guy says about marriage, the duration, for which none of his marriages have ever last anywhere near that length. For reference:

- Ivana Zelníčková (m. 1977; div. 1992)
- Marla Maples (m. 1993; div. 1999)
- Melania Knauss (m. 2005)

He does not say he's a mason. Why on Earth would he? In what context to that conversation would it be relevant??

Holy hell, AMPTAH.. I thought you were intentionally obtuse before, but no, you're actually stupid.

edit on 18-12-2017 by noonebutme because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 07:37 PM
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Being a man, freeborn and all, am amazed at the accusations a mason would use some sort of Great and important code, just to baffle someone from the East.



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 08:28 PM
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You guys really don't want to acknowledge Trump as a mason.

I get that.

Many buildings that carried the Trump name tore down the signs too, and changed the name of the buildings when he won.

He is an unpopular popular guy.

Masons generally want to link the fraternity to famous respected leaders in various walks of life.

Usually, long after the man is dead, the Freemasons will then claim he was a mason. But, while alive they don't want to take the risk, that he could turn out to be a liability, rather than an asset to the craft.

It all makes sense.

So, I understand this battle to try to convince me, that I should have my hearing checked, along with all the other people around the internet who claim to have heard "I am actually a mason" part. But people have done a lot more research on this topic than me, and there are several videos concerning all the other masonic regalia, hand signs, gestures, poses, and masonic contacts, that The Donald has surrounded himself with. By association with all these "signs" the nature of the man's mind can be determined too.



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 08:38 PM
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Many buildings that carried the Trump name tore down the signs too, and changed the name of the buildings when he won.



Can't find anything about that. Do you have a link to back up that statement?



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 08:49 PM
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originally posted by: queenofswords
a reply to: AMPTAH




Many buildings that carried the Trump name tore down the signs too, and changed the name of the buildings when he won.



Can't find anything about that. Do you have a link to back up that statement?



Trump's name removed from NYC buildings

Panama hotel owners working to remove Trump name from building

Trump name to be removed from Trump Tower Toronto—could Vancouver be next?

etc...google is your friend.

It's no wonder that Masons, who consider themselves "builders", want to remove Trump's name from the craft too.






posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 09:00 PM
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It's no wonder that Masons, who consider themselves "builders", want to remove Trump's name from the craft too.


He would have to be a Freemason first, to then be removed from it.

I’ve seen zero evidence he is a Freemason, outside of peoples dodgy hearing and flat out lies.



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79
a reply to: AMPTAH


It's no wonder that Masons, who consider themselves "builders", want to remove Trump's name from the craft too.


He would have to be a Freemason first, to then be removed from it.

I’ve seen zero evidence he is a Freemason, outside of peoples dodgy hearing and flat out lies.


Well, Freemasonry is a society with secrets.

So, you can't expect to know everything about masons. Even if you are a mason yourself.



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 10:07 PM
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a reply to: AMPTAH

Everyone has secrets. It’s hardly surprising a fraternity has secrets to stop non members entering.

Unless you think secrets are some sort of evil? In that case, you won’t mind giving out all of your personal information, including bank, cards and addresses.
edit on 18122017 by TerryDon79 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 10:34 PM
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originally posted by: TerryDon79

Everyone has secrets. It’s hardly surprising a fraternity has secrets to stop non members entering.

Unless you think secrets are some sort of evil? In that case, you won’t mind giving out all of your personal information, including bank, cards and addresses.


I don't have any secrets. All that information you mention, including bank, cards and addresses, are already known by others.

Then there's the NSA, who probably have a thick file on each of us. Especially, those posting on ATS and the like.

So, what good is trying to keep secrets, when others spend their entire
careers finding them out?



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 10:36 PM
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a reply to: AMPTAH

If they’re not secret, you won’t mind posting them here.

I know you won’t though. You like your secrecy. Just like everyone else.



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 10:40 PM
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Back on topic.

Prove he’s a Freemason.
Name the lodge and which degree he supposedly is. With documentation.

Or is the intentional warping of what’s said, the best you have?



posted on Dec, 18 2017 @ 10:59 PM
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originally posted by: AMPTAH
You guys really don't want to acknowledge Trump as a mason.

I get that.
...
Many buildings that carried the Trump name tore down the signs too,
and changed the name of the buildings when he won.

...He is an unpopular popular guy.

Masons generally want to link the fraternity to
famous respected leaders in various walks of life.

Usually, long after the man is dead, the Freemasons will
then claim he was a mason. But, while alive they don't
want to take the risk, that he could turn out to be a liability,
rather than an asset to the craft. It all makes sense.
...
So, I understand this battle to try to convince me, that
I should have my hearing checked, ....


As an alleged (AND SPONSORED) non-mason, all I
can attest to without getting an impromptu tracheotomy or worse
is:

My mom said her brother Billy was a 32nd York right after the funeral--
and it's ok because she didn't immediately burst into flame or become a
pillar of dust Dobermans. not waiting for the prescribed arbitrary eon/6.66

I am deaf as somewhere between a rotten hitching post and Beethoven being
dead for five or so years (above 2KhZ= -80dB+ ... and the only
thing I need to have checked by now is my lower Aorta and sanity for bulges.
Is single malt a good plaque buster? Jeopardize the former screw der ladder.
We be climba the mountain naow. god'n'sonny Set help us all.

I'll have to live down this lack of tolerance for the rest of my life before it
would be comfortable to look for a pair of sponsors. All damn themselves...

Finally-- my uncle was a master electrician who went out there to fix the
stoplights when nobody else wanted to even step outside. One of them, bless
his heart. And he was like that ALL the time.

Forget what they say: watch what they DO. There's an upside too.
edit on 18-12-2017 by derfreebie because: where's Beez? I need an old friend to come back for Chistmas or so



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 01:27 AM
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originally posted by: AMPTAH
You guys really don't want to acknowledge Trump as a mason. I get that.

That's not the issue.

This issue is, he isn't and he never said he was. The video very clearly proves that.

What evidence do you actually have, that US President Donald Trump, is a Freemason?

The video very clearly is not evidence, as he doesn't say he is a mason, and there have been no mentions to which lodge he belongs to.

I am not an expert in US Freemasonry, but here in the UK we have yearly published books from every province/county listing all the paid members and their current lodge rank. I am easily findable in one of the Surrey province books. I assume that same information is also freely available in the US..?

Are you intentionally being obtuse? Do you have any actual proof he is a Mason? Not conjecture, proof.
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posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 01:52 AM
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originally posted by: noonebutme

Are you intentionally being obtuse? Do you have any actual proof he is a Mason? Not conjecture, proof.


I have his word on film.

That's good enough for me.

And I'm not the only person in the world that hears him say "I'm actually a mason, I would have known that."

So, it's not a hallucination.

It becomes objective evidence, whenever "two or more witnesses" testify to the same thing.



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 04:51 AM
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Non-Masons seem to be more obsessed with the 33rd Degree than Freemasons are.



edit on 12/19/17 by Sahabi because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 05:44 AM
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originally posted by: AMPTAH
You guys really don't want to acknowledge Trump as a mason.


You know what? I will.

Donald Trump is a Mason because I was under the blood with him on multiple occasions because we were both examined by the Worshipful Master (Baphomet) and found to be tried and true.

This is 100% not bull. Or goat.



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 05:50 AM
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Nah Trump just thinks he is a 33 degree Mason. I bet he has loads of silly wigs and funny handshakes and such I bet stockings and suspenders also.
Urrggh I have just made an awful mental image...



posted on Dec, 19 2017 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I know it is a little off topic but have you seen this thread www.abovetopsecret.com...

For the record, the murals at DEN are still in place and have not been touched or modified in any way since the commissioning of the airport in 1995. They are protected by law and cannot be removed or altered in any way. No conspiracy in this regard, any persons wishing to see them are welcome to do so both now and in the future. They're not going anywhere.

Wasn't it you who said they had been taken down?



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