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Removing the individual mandate is the only reason I can afford to purchase it. Once I'm off Medicare/Medicaid later next year I'll have to purchase for myself. With higher prices that simply won't be possible.
I have Medicare and Medicaid due to being disabled. I pay a buy in now that I have a job, once that job becomes full time when I graduate this spring, I'll lose it entirely and have to pay out of pocket. I just checked the exchange, currently $550/month. More than I pay for rent. Paying two plans like that, once my mom loses her disability coverage plus paying two peoples rent.... I make good money, I'll make even better money starting in April. I still won't be able to do it.
No heart attack here. If it comes to pass, I'm simply done with this country. I refuse to participate in a system which limits my options and condemns sick people to death or bankruptcy rather than take care of them.
originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: FatSoldier
Like most of us already thought, "deficit hawk" Republicans are a shiny myth used for pandering to their base.
Old men scribbling on paper that nobody had time to read, dictating our futures.
How is it we are still doing things this way?
originally posted by: face23785
All the changes have been being talked about all week. They were no surprise. Fail. You got lied to bro.
And let's not pretend any Democrats were gonna vote yea even if they re-read the entire bill. A few of them may vote yes on the reconciled bill, because they know their talking points are false and at that point if it's about to come law anyway it'll be politically beneficial to them to get on the record supporting a beneficial tax bill, even if it does prove them to be liars for opposing it now.
originally posted by: Aazadan
originally posted by: face23785
All the changes have been being talked about all week. They were no surprise. Fail. You got lied to bro.
And let's not pretend any Democrats were gonna vote yea even if they re-read the entire bill. A few of them may vote yes on the reconciled bill, because they know their talking points are false and at that point if it's about to come law anyway it'll be politically beneficial to them to get on the record supporting a beneficial tax bill, even if it does prove them to be liars for opposing it now.
I know they weren't going to vote for it, I wanted to see the reform fail.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Vector99
Cool beans.
That's one thing I seriously hope stays in after reconciliation, because it also includes the employer mandate. In my situation, I am qualified for some well-paying jobs, but the sheer cost of insurance under Obamacare means I am too expensive to hire just because of my age. The young'uns out of college have less experience and are less capable, but the insurance cost is so high they get first shot.
TheRedneck
originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: Aazadan
It sounds to me like you're unwilling to help yourself. Instead you want the government to do it with the hardworkers money, so you can have this mythical quality of life that apparently everyone deserves by right of birth.
originally posted by: eXia7
So... does that mean the government plans to cut wasteful spending?
I doubt it.
originally posted by: Vector99
originally posted by: CB328
This is horrible for America. How they hell could anyone be stupid enough to believe this is needed when the corporations already have 85% of the money?
This is going to be terrible for America as real people will have even less money and rights than we have now.
I challenge you to cite one part of this tax bill that will be detrimental to the majority of tax payers. I double dog dare you even!
originally posted by: TheRedneck
Aazadan is a good example. He's convinced that this tax bill will destroy him, when in fact it will help him more than he knows yet. All because it's easier to read Time and MSN than it is to read through the bill.
Well, that's a more diplomatic way of being told I should just go die quietly for the sake of someones wallet, than I've been told before.
originally posted by: Aazadan
Maybe you should have taken responsibility and become productive when you were younger and healthier then?
It won't destroy me, but it will make things harder. I see absolutely no reason to support a government that does that. It's not about the money, it's about the fact that it's directly siphoning wealth from the poor to the rich.
originally posted by: FatSoldier
a reply to: MiddleInsite
I think it's safe to say people cannot predict what a new law would do once it is enacted. Obamacare was said to decrease cost, and it turned out to increase cost.
A comfortable quality of life is the #1 responsibility of government