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reply posted on 15-2-2005 @ 10:43 AM by Off_The_Street
"I gave you a link that will,or should anyway,satisfy you."

No; I was looking for scientists and/or engineers who buy into the conspiracy theory, and you havenb't shown me any. Putting out a ten-page list which will take days to scroll through won't cut it, SMR; either you have the information that you can show us -- or you don't.

"I told you it had articles in there from such people who have writen their thoughts and have even used numbers to tell that alot of what went down could not have happened as it was told."

That is all very nice, SMR, but I am looking for scientists and/or engineers who buy into the conspiracy throry, not "people who have written down their thoughts" .

"Do a little research.Thats all we 'conspiracy nuts' have done and members such as yourself do little but keep going on with what CH has put in his little so called 'proof report' that has NO proof."

SMR, you're changing the subject again. The point of this thread is looking for scientists and/or engineers who buy into the conspiracy theory and you haven't been able to show me any.

"WE keep getting new information ...[which] ... is readily avaiable to you and easy to use."

But your information does not include anything about scientists and/or engineers who buy into the conspiracy theory, SMR.

That's what I'm looking for, and you can't seem to bring yourself to say that you don't have that information.

Why don't you either come out with a scientist and/or engineer who buys into the conspiracy theory -- or be honest and simply admit there aren't any?


reply posted on 15-2-2005 @ 12:25 PM by Sauron
You do not need to be an engineer or scientist to see with one's own eyes, we all run around in circles exactly the way the perpetrators want, us bickering over nothing really, while these crooks get a way with murder.

Who had the most to gain? think about that!
who had the power to control the scenario, think damit most of you have brains, and stop waving your freaking flags. the whole world can see but the majority of Americans can not, why,
come on people, I've gotten to the point I don't care anymore Fk it I'm not American. But that's the American way (( oh well what can I do I'm nobody ) if that the way you think you have been trained well) and like I said I'm not American and don't buy the Apple pie George Bush is selling. I will go on trying to get more people to open there eyes. The American government is corrupt, and as sure as the sun will come up tomorow they had a hand in the killing of those inocent Americans on 9/11.




When considering the possibility that the Twin Towers were brought down by explosives there is an interesting variation which is worth considering: What if the Twin Towers were designed — or re-engineered — so that they could be destroyed in a controlled demolition if circumstances required?
What circumstances might lead to an order to demolish the Twin Towers? A situation in which it was believed that they were in danger of collapsing in an uncontrolled manner and falling onto the buildings surrounding them in Manhattan's financial district. In such a case, it might be held, better to demolish one or both of the towers in a controlled manner so as to minimize death and destruction in the surrounding area.


Video Evidence of Controlled Demolition


Dr.Mark Heath's Demolition Squibs
"While the news footage of the collapses showed the facts, amateur video has shown the reality of what it was like to be there. After Dr. Mark Heath heard the first airplane explosions, he ventured toward the site to offer assistance, camcorder in hand and recording. He was asking a bystander where medical assistance might be needed when a noise above tempted the camcorder upward. As an enormous cloud of gray dust and debris descended, all Dr. Heath and the people around him could do was run until the cloud engulfed their position. Heath, constantly narrating for what sounded as if it might be posterity, described how broad daylight had turned to complete darkness"

First look at this video (a wmv file, playable in Windows Media Player) of a controlled demolition and observe clouds of debris ejected horizontally by explosions placed at several levels in the building to be demolished Now look at this video of the North Tower collapsing. Two of these can be seen clearly before the collapse descends beneath the viewframe.


I'm going for a smoke

[edit on 15/2/2005 by Sauron]



reply posted on 24-4-2005 @ 01:17 AM by silentlonewolf
Originally posted by HowardRoark
S.P.I.N.E. - Not exactly a stellar group of "scientists."

Derrick Grimmer - one of the SPINE "scientists." He is a perennial candidate for every possible elected office in Iowa. Has never won. Maybe it's because his major platform is
legalization of marijuana



[edit on 23-4-2005 by HowardRoark]


so what does his support for weed have to do with this. The president has used/experimented with weed.

Also, so what if he runs for political office and loses. Is he an activist, yeah, so that does add some skeptism. Yet, he was co-founder of Iowa thin Film Technologies Inc . The company's target audience is goverment contracts. The company was honored in 2004 by the department of defense here He has worked with Iowa State University on solar energy projects. You have to scroll down to "An Energetic Partnership"

I couldn't find where he got his degree or anything but here is a little background on him, other than the fact that he supports some form of legalized weed.

Edit: Just came across this in the catalog for our school libraries.

Corp author: Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory.

Title: Augmented solar energy collection using various planar reflective surfaces [microform] : theoretical calculations and experimental results / D. P. Grimmer ... [et al.].

Publisher: Los Alamos, N.M. : Dept. of Energy, Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory ; [Springfield, Va. : for sale by the National Technical Information Service], 1978.

Description 36 p. : ill. ; 28 cm.

Note United States Department of Energy contract W-7405-ENG.36.
Issued April 1978.

Bibliography Includes bibliographical references.

Reproduction Microfiche. [Washington, D.C.] : Supt. of Docs., U.S. G.P.O. microfiches : negative.

Subject Solar collectors.

Additional author: Grimmer, D. P.

Added author United States. Dept. of Energy.

ISBN pbk.

ISBN/ISSN 429-T-4 (MF)

"stellar" enough to be associated with Los Alamos


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