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reply posted on 14-2-2005 @ 08:33 AM by Off_The_Street
SMR says:

"There have been plenty of them."

Please give us an example of just one engineer or scientist who has done so.

I have looked over the threads you cite, including

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

And I don't see anything at all like a link to any scientist and /or engineer upholding any of the conspiracy assertions.

As a matter of fact, most of the"evidence" I saw on those threads are links to other threads here on ATS which don't have any links, either.

"...I just know of their articles,or should I say,answers to questions they have been asked about the physics surrounding 9/11."

Then I am sure you'd have no problem about sharing their answers which they've been asked with the rest of us, since we're all here to deny ignorance, right?

I look forward to hearing from you.


reply posted on 14-2-2005 @ 05:33 PM by SMR
Off_The_Street

From:
public-action.com/911/jmcm/physics

There was one highly qualified engineer in New Mexico who thought the collapse could only happen with the help of demolition explosives, and he was foolish enough to make the statement publicly.

Romero is a former director of the Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center at Tech, which studies explosive materials and the effects of explosions on buildings, aircraft and other structures.

Romero said he based his opinion on video aired on national television broadcasts.

Romero said the collapse of the structures resembled those of controlled implosions used to demolish old structures.

"It would be difficult for something from the plane to trigger an event like that," Romero said in a phone interview from Washington, D.C.
Romero said he and another Tech administrator were on a Washington-area subway when an airplane struck the Pentagon.

He said he and Denny Peterson, vice president for administration and finance, were en route to an office building near the Pentagon to discuss defense-funded research programs at Tech.

If explosions did cause the towers to collapse, the detonations could have been caused by a small amount of explosive, he said.

"It could have been a relatively small amount of explosives placed in strategic points," Romero said.

The explosives likely would have been put in more than two points in each of the towers, he said.
(Article originally at www.abqjournal.com... , then was moved to www.abqjournal.com... but now back in the original location, or: public-action.com... ).
But Romero recanted ten days later and admitted the whole thing was perfectly natural and unsurprising. I wonder what happened in those ten days to make him so smart on the subject so quickly. The retraction is now displayed above the original on the Albuquerque Journal web page.

And then, as though demonstrating how normal this "building collapsing" phenomenon is, WTC buildings Six and Seven "collapsed," too: SEEMS PEOPLE ARE BEING TOLD WHAT TO SAY,THEIR WAY ONLY

911 ENDGAME...PROOF, NO CELL PHONE CALLS FROM PLANES
I'll just post the link for this one....... LINK

I have more links,just have to go through them.I need to leave for now,but hope to post the links tonight.


reply posted on 14-2-2005 @ 10:11 PM by Off_The_Street
SMR, is that the best you can do?

You talk about all these scientists and physicsts who support your belief, and then, when push comes to shove, you produce -- as your star witness -- someone who admits he was wrong!

It looks to me like what you're saying here is that one engineer in New Mexico who thought the collapse could only happen with the help of demolition explosives, and he based his opinion on video aired on national television broadcasts, not any tests he did himself or any reports he read.

He saw something on TV and said, "yup, a bomb.".

He didn't see it first hand, of course, since he was in a subway Washington DC when it happened.

"But Romero recanted ten days later and admitted the whole thing was perfectly natural and unsurprising. I wonder what happened in those ten days to make him so smart on the subject so quickly."

Well, SMR, maybe it was because he realized that his first impression (based on watching something on TV) was in error because he'd had a chance to go back and run the numbers.

Or maybe talk with some folks who were there like some of the firefighters.

Or maybe he 'd had a chance to read some preliminary reports from the wreckage.

The fact is, I don't know, and neither do you.

But what astounds me is that you think this guy is a really cool and respected scientist as long as he's saying what you want him to say, but if he says something else, you don't have enough respect for him to think that he just might have been honest enough to say he had initially been in error.

No!

You seem to think that he first was being honest, then he was lying.

I don't agree with that, but if that's what you think about him, how can you even point to him as a "respected scientist"?


reply posted on 14-2-2005 @ 10:24 PM by MaskedAvatar
911research.wtc7.net...
41,400 hits since 2/7/5

911review.com...
See how many "experts" are actually cited for any contribution to PM

www.oilempire.us...
Bogus websites disproving phony claims

www.intl-news.com...
www.rense.com...
So, we should all be most grateful to 'Popular Mechanics' and its new editor James Meigs for indirectly telling us who the real perpetrators of 9/11 were by its rather long-winded "blind 'em with science" attempt to suppress the truth of behalf of those perpetrators.

Ouch. Debunk those.


reply posted on 14-2-2005 @ 11:06 PM by HowardRoark
Originally posted by SMR

911 ENDGAME...PROOF, NO CELL PHONE CALLS FROM
]
I'll just post the link for this one.......
LINK

I have more links,just have to go through them.I need to leave for now,but hope to post the links tonight.


According to this, Cell phone calls from in flight planes are not impossible. They can run into technical issues at times, but not always. Otherwise, why would they even consider allowing them?????

[edit on 14-2-2005 by HowardRoark]



reply posted on 15-2-2005 @ 01:04 AM by SMR
Originally posted by Off_The_Street
SMR, is that the best you can do?

You talk about all these scientists and physicsts who support your belief, and then, when push comes to shove, you produce -- as your star witness -- someone who admits he was wrong!

It looks to me like what you're saying here is that one engineer in New Mexico who thought the collapse could only happen with the help of demolition explosives, and he based his opinion on video aired on national television broadcasts, not any tests he did himself or any reports he read.

He saw something on TV and said, "yup, a bomb.".

He didn't see it first hand, of course, since he was in a subway Washington DC when it happened.

"But Romero recanted ten days later and admitted the whole thing was perfectly natural and unsurprising. I wonder what happened in those ten days to make him so smart on the subject so quickly."

Well, SMR, maybe it was because he realized that his first impression (based on watching something on TV) was in error because he'd had a chance to go back and run the numbers.

Or maybe talk with some folks who were there like some of the firefighters.

Or maybe he 'd had a chance to read some preliminary reports from the wreckage.

The fact is, I don't know, and neither do you.

But what astounds me is that you think this guy is a really cool and respected scientist as long as he's saying what you want him to say, but if he says something else, you don't have enough respect for him to think that he just might have been honest enough to say he had initially been in error.

No!

You seem to think that he first was being honest, then he was lying.

I don't agree with that, but if that's what you think about him, how can you even point to him as a "respected scientist"?


First off,did I not say that was only for now and would be back later to post more.I guess with all your excitment in wanting to attatck,you didnt see that
Relax a little and dont be so quick to jump on someone.
And where do you get that I think this guy is really cool?I swear,some of the things some of you people conclude to is funny But whatever.

All you have done is twist that whole post and frankly,I really dont think you are anyone who I should discuss this with as you will just put words in my mouth as you have already.

I'll just put a link that has names and articles by quite a few.The post could get too large and would just get read here and there,missing points.
HERE
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