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Spain to trigger direct rule on Catalonia to crush independence bid

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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 06:24 AM
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Looks like the proverbial is about to hit the fan as Spain moves to control the breakaway rep[ublic through direct rule.

edition.cnn.com...



The Spanish government said Thursday it would begin the process to impose direct rule on Catalonia in an unprecedented move to crush the region's independence bid.

In a statement from Madrid, the government of Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy said it would invoke Article 155 of the constitution, a provision that allows the central government to suspend the autonomy of the Catalan regional administration.

Rajoy's Cabinet will meet on Saturday to agree measures to "restore the constitutional order" in Catalonia, where a banned referendum on independence took place earlier this month.

The plan will then be put before the Senate, where Rajoy's Popular Party has a majority, for approval. The statement did not spell out what steps would be taken under Article 155, but the provision gives Madrid the power to take over the running of Catalan institutions and force new elections. It has never been invoked before.


Looks like things about to get nasty.

Are the bad old days of Franco set to return?
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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 06:32 AM
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a reply to: bgerbger

Spain is running scared, the time for the people of Catalonia to rise up is getting closer. Will be very interesting to see how this plays out



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 07:00 AM
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a reply to: bgerbger

I think that will have the opposite effect. Super triggering.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 07:35 AM
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a reply to: bgerbger

The Spaniards are under kleptocrat rule, banking troika running amok again. Thanks for the thread.


No cause is left but the most ancient of all, the one, in fact, that from the beginning of our history has determined the very existence of politics, the cause of freedom versus tyranny.

Hannah Arendt

#VivaCatalunya



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 08:02 AM
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a reply to: bgerbger




Are the bad old days of Franco set to return?


Actually Franco never died



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 08:04 AM
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The board games work this way, someone wants a chunk of Spain and there is a reaction. Next will be Australia WA might want independence also! The virus of liberation will spread, once its done its rounds, the big boys will move in. a reply to: bgerbger



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 08:04 AM
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This is gonna make the Franco-assisted Nazi battles look like pillow fights...

Too bad nobody has invented the giant saw to cut Florida from America...seems Europe could use the same for the Iberian Peninsula...

-Chris



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 09:46 AM
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There are thousands of languages in this world, including several Kurdish languages. If every language gets at least 1 country, there'd be tens of thousands of countries at the UN.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 10:24 AM
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originally posted by: Christosterone
This is gonna make the Franco-assisted Nazi battles look like pillow fights...

Too bad nobody has invented the giant saw to cut Florida from America...seems Europe could use the same for the Iberian Peninsula...

-Chris


Why? Hardly anyone bothered to vote in what was an unsanctioned vote and you have numerous lies one from side erring on the side of ridiculous (Barcelona has a no fly zone lol).



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 12:50 PM
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originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
Spain is running scared, the time for the people of Catalonia to rise up is getting closer.


Spain is not running scared. They are confident. Don't forget that opinion polls of the "people of Catalonia" indicate the secessionists are in a slight minority.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
a reply to: bgerbger

Spain is running scared, the time for the people of Catalonia to rise up is getting closer. Will be very interesting to see how this plays out


Oh no. if the Kurds cant have their own country screw the catalonians.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 12:59 PM
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I'm super conflicted about this issue.

I'm extremely disappointed in the EU, and their double standards politics. They're completely fine with Kosovo proclaiming independence even without a referendum, but they refuse to support Catalonia...Hope EU collapses pretty soon.

On the other hand, Spain has had our backs during all this time, so I support them 100%.



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 01:35 PM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
Spain is running scared, the time for the people of Catalonia to rise up is getting closer.


Spain is not running scared. They are confident. Don't forget that opinion polls of the "people of Catalonia" indicate the secessionists are in a slight minority.


If that were true they wouldn't need riot police to beat the crap out of people



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 02:48 PM
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It's easy to brainwash a group into going to the street to defend their apparent rights. I heard today the report from Catalunya that the people are very upset about the independents and the havoc it has created in their daily life. Not everybody wants to stir the pot. Many have been force fed this supposed liberation front. Open your eyes and try and see the wider perspective. a reply to: Zcustosmorum



posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 05:49 PM
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Good to see yet another EU country behaving ‘democratically’

Don’t give me nonsense about the vote being illegal, it makes no difference! The Catalonians want independence and that has to be respected.

Thank the lord for brexit

*sits quietly and waits for the remainers to come in and start defending the Spanish government and the EU*
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posted on Oct, 19 2017 @ 05:54 PM
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I wonder how much trouble this will cause the EU when people start pointing out how they are ignoring their own rules when it comes to Madrid riot police beating the stuffing out of old folks women children.

I wonder if Junker is hoping it scares the people wanting out of the EU, and is ignoring the chance that it will drive people to try and get away even faster.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 12:30 AM
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The Catalonians want independence and that has to be respected. a reply to: fusiondoe

If only what you say was true, it is a portion who want independence, there is a large portion of them who do not. Why? because they originate from other parts of Spain. Also, you will find that when they do and if they do go independent. They will have to begin producing there own goods, nothing coming from Poland etc. Suppose it could come from Russia, a but then what could that mean? Will we be independent if we strike a deal with this new group of business people?

Uk is different because it has a history of being a very independent island, based on how historically it invaded other countries to benefit its ports. Those days are over, why because those countries wanted independence. Round and round we go banging our heads on the same old walls.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 06:36 AM
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If only what you say was true, it is a portion who want independence, there is a large portion of them who do not.


The news articles I read say otherwise. There was massive support for the referendum, even from people who don't support the independence.

en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:31 AM
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originally posted by: Garmanarnar

originally posted by: Christosterone
This is gonna make the Franco-assisted Nazi battles look like pillow fights...

Too bad nobody has invented the giant saw to cut Florida from America...seems Europe could use the same for the Iberian Peninsula...

-Chris


Why? Hardly anyone bothered to vote in what was an unsanctioned vote and you have numerous lies one from side erring on the side of ridiculous (Barcelona has a no fly zone lol).

Pretty hard to vote when the government does everything in its power to stop the vote, including: shutting down polling locations, seizing ballots & equipment, arresting election workers, and sending police to beat people who tried to vote.

That so many people did manage to vote in the referendum is actually pretty impressive.



posted on Oct, 20 2017 @ 07:37 AM
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originally posted by: Garmanarnar

originally posted by: Christosterone
This is gonna make the Franco-assisted Nazi battles look like pillow fights...

Too bad nobody has invented the giant saw to cut Florida from America...seems Europe could use the same for the Iberian Peninsula...

-Chris


Why? Hardly anyone bothered to vote in what was an unsanctioned vote and you have numerous lies one from side erring on the side of ridiculous (Barcelona has a no fly zone lol).


Thought that somewhere between 40 and 50% of eligible voters cast a ballot, that seems a little more than hardly anybody.




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