Hugh Hefner, Playboy Founder, Dies at 91

a reply to: FredT

Pornography? No. Only the not so minor dash of Puritanism in American society would describe what he did as "pornography". On that, we agree.

Playboy was almost a right of passage for my crowd in our teenage years. Scarpering with our Dads copies of Playboy, or "borrowing" a copy from a store...or if you knew the right cashier, actually buying one.

I actually met a Playboy playmate Ms. May 1988 Diane Lee. Nice girl. ...and as one might imagine, smokin' hot!!

I always enjoyed the magazine, and yes, I read the articles, too...!! I was a subscriber for close on twenty years...then the magazine changed, or I did...and it wasn't the same.

RIP, Hugh.

originally posted by: Justso
He was famous for using women for sex. Yea.

Women pictured in Hugh Hefner's magazine used themselves for sex.

Also, Playboy never was a cheap porn magazine. It seemed to be an honour if a girl got picked for the centre fold-out.

Oh yea Hugh "objectified women" my ass. He found a niche in a capitalist society and filled it. Cgiggity) He gave many young women great opportunities and the magazines always had tasteful photography and weren't overly gratuitous. Women are far guiltier than Heff for objectifying themselves to treat men as ATM machines. The human form is beautiful and the late, great Hugh Hefner helped us all to appreciate it. I'm sure he's helped more people and positively effected more lives than you could hope to accomplish in ten lifetimes. reply to: Sheye

He was a dirty old man, yeah the women were shallow and materialistic enough to go for it but I don't think his life is something to be celebrated beyond appreciating the fact he lived it on his own terms and didn't harm anyone.

Jerry Lewis (Hughs Buddy) Died 81.
Harry Dean Stanton (bet he was Hughs buddy too) died 91.
Hugh...91.

Mel Brooks was just lamenting the other day, how the PC World has destroyed iconic humour, sarcasm, Good old fashioned laughs, at the expense of not wanting to upset or offend anyone.......Bah Humbug....he says.

Mel is 91 too.

As is big Clint Walker, the muscled dude of 60s TVs Cheyenne ......91 also.

Damn, what happens if an actor live to 92!!!

Most men here could only wish to achieve this in life.. (you thought about it)

I would of settled for being his go to Photographer.

I enjoyed the beauty he brought to us.


Jess saying..

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Woodcarver

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: milano
Hefner in heaven... You might be smoked out. Just sayin'

None of us know where he is .... all I know is he lead a life of extreme sexual sin , and enticed and sold it to others. His gods were sex and money, his ego and fame . The man has alot to answer for ,to the big guy upstairs 😕

Uh, god isn't real and sin is something created by the church so they could sell absolution. Hef was a well liked charismatic fellow who never forced anything on anyone. What is wrong with sex and money? You don't like sex and money?

Sex without true deep monogamous love ends up feeling cheap and unfulfilling in the long run. Cheap thrills for awhile , then it gets old and new " naughtiness " needs to be brought into the sexuality for cheap thrills.

Money is merely a means to an end... and I would rather value true friendship and family love over a bundle of money.

Yes, Heff had many friends and family who loved and supported him , and he didn't force anyone to do anything, but he used the weaknesses of men against them for profit ... wether he meant to or not. I'm sure he was a nice enough guy, but sorry, I just don't see him as someone who brought anything of much value to this world .... and I have a right to my opinions 😜

You sound like the ashamed girl who can't admit she thumbed through a Playgirl rag and liked it, so you're focusing your self-disgust on Playboy instead.

I count myself lucky enough to have an old-ass issue of Playgirl from the mid-90's The Scott Bakula one. That put Quantum Leap into a whole new perspective for me

Party on, Heff, even this chick was envious of you

*sighs*

the hero's of our youth always seem to pass before we are ready.

R.I.P Hugh.

Join me for a minutes masturbation tomorrow at 14:00, bring your favourite playboy issue, a packet of tissues and find a quite place.

R.I.P

a reply to: Outlier13


The only guy on the planet that figured out women. RIP Mr. Hefner...........you truly had a good life.

Another true American icon lost.Fascinating man and what a life he'd lead!RIP.

originally posted by: Sheye

originally posted by: Somethingsamiss
a reply to: Sheye

I really need to stop reading your self righteous replies. You sound extremely judgmental. Its not your place to judge others or to damn them. I am a Christian as well and after reading this stuff you put out there. Is it any surprise people don't take us seriously? Why they think we are all judgmental ass's?

So as a Christian I'm not allowed a voice ? This idolatry to a man who pushed and made money off of sexual enticement is nauseating to me.

Do I hope he is with Jesus? Of course !!! But is he ?
I'm not acting holier than thou either , just having the courage to call a spade a spade , while so many seem to postulate themselves before HH.

As far as giving Christians a bad name because of my honesty ?...where are all the Christian men who are not supposed to condone the type of ways hugh made his billions ?

You make me lose respect in Christian men , who are supposed to be examples and leaders , as well as teachers of what is morally right and wrong , and what is acceptable in our Father's eyes.

Do you even know what acting holier than thou means? It's when you bash people for what they like, because you don't like it. You are acting like you are better than Hef because he enjoys a lifestyle that you admittedly tried yourself. You didn't like it? Well he did. But you are acting like he belongs in your imaginary hell. For doing the same thing you admittedly did yourself. That is acting holier than thou. Sure you have a voice. And i want you to continue to use it so i don't forget that you are a judgmental hypocrite.

Yes, Heff had many friends and family who loved and supported him , and he didn't force anyone to do anything, but he used the weaknesses of men against them for profit ... wether he meant to or not. I'm sure he was a nice enough guy, but sorry, I just don't see him as someone who brought anything of much value to this world .... and I have a right to my opinions 😜

Used the weakness of men nearly like women do!

Just my $.02

My older sister got me a subscription when I was 15 and yes it was great reading. I learned a lot about the world and the world of women!

a reply to: Outlier13

It would be difficult to argue that Heff is going to a better place.

Playboy was a launch pad for quite a few people's careers. I think the arrangement of being a model and the publicity gained from that was a mutually beneficial business deal for the parties involved, IMO.
Read that his burial plot is right beside Marilyn Monroe's, found that interesting.

I don't think that enjoying pornography is a sign of weakness.
The human body (aesthetics) is admired in many forms.
Beauty pageants, weight lifting competitions, models (both clothed and nude or other alternative type), sculpture and other art forms.
Just thinking out loud here.

a reply to: JinMI

ETA: Well, that didn't turn out correct but I think you get my point. Thanks for the tip!

As long as nobody is going off half-cocked.

a reply to: Outlier13

Old Heff was a Pedophile! He had a 10 year old Brooke Shields pose nude in his magazine. Child porn!

Playboy magazine was probably the most influential use of the written word in American culture prior to Rap music. It had a mass appeal much greater than any other effort directed at social commentary or any other written attempt to influence the direction of American society.

Its competitors would be magazines like Life and Look and The Saturday Evening Post, in presenting a picture of the style and fashion of American life, and these magazines were more observational than activist, as Playboy was.

For that alone, Hefner is a significant figure in American cultural history.

I don't regard him as a sinister figure in the history of women's issues or feminism. I don't think he touted "the Playboy philosophy and lifestyle" as the ultimate destination for American society. He wasn't the Karl Marx of hedonism. He made a much more liberal attitude to sex, its inclusion in a generally received definition of fun, acceptable to large sections of the middle class.

I don't believe there are any trivial sexual relationships, myself. Maybe I should say that there are no trivial sexual relationships for me, personally. Maybe large numbers of encounters can trivialize sex. Sex often seems trivial in the context of Playboy. That might be the most objectionable thing about Mr. Hefner's lifestyle. However, being a playboy is not compulsory in America. I'm sure Hefner never intended it to be.

A lot of women don't like Hefner or the Playboy approach to women. I think they have made valid points about "objectification", but it is a little naive to suppose that objectification hadn't being going on all along anyway, unspoken.

There is something deep about that (the objection to being objectified), in a social sense, beyond a personal objection, something conservative, communal, even totalitarian, but worst of all, deeply unrealistic. Evaluation, rating, ranking, follow objectification and one must note that normal evaluation and ranking of people of both sexes, which has always gone on, is generally disregarded in criticisms of Playboy magazine. It is the shift in focus the magazine brought to physical beauty, which became a concern.

There doesn't seem to be an acknowledgement that "men" might actually get to know the beautiful objects and find them wanting in other ways. There seems to be a fear that the vacuous male, without the intelligence to discriminate in any other way than the superficial, might be lost to the plain Jane genius, forced to compete with Playboy bunny types. She might lose him to Princess Dum Dum Bunny Ears!

Is this kind of feminism really about plain girls getting a fair shot at "himbos"? It gets silly.

Someone should study the role of women in totalitarian thought. Mussolini was said to be misogynistic. Misogyny is said to be a characteristic of fascism. Could it be some kind of instinctive reaction to female dominance, or coercion, at some subtle level? I'm only asking questions, but it seems to me that if women had power in post war America, Playboy magazine would never have existed. Food for thought.