Originally posted by Disturbed Deliverer
I was talking more figuratively, really...
Either way, body armor can be penetrated, or the armor can't cover everything.
Yes, but body armour can stop a bullet as well.
With armor like you have on tanks, or even simpler bullet proof glass, you simply need something with a bigger punch.
Name me one tank round that has been known to penetrate chobrahm armour?
I don't think bullet proof glass will stand up to a rocket. There are a number of ways to destroy a tank.
Bullet proof glass might not stand it but blast proof glass can.
Yes there are multiple ways to take down a tank but there are ways around them.
Nations have fought on relatively equal terms.
Ah but that is not what we are on about is it?
Iran penetrated Iraq's air defenses which had the very best Soviet SAM's in the 80's with F-14's.
Ah but was that the best SAM's in the world?
Also the skill of a pilot and or ground crew has to be taken into account.
Israel made it through Syria under similiar conditions.
See above...
Then you have the Gulf War and Kosovo.
Umm as it was shown in other threads that the iraq air defenses where not the best also in GW2 the defeses where set up by the chinese who arent the
best at this are they?
Also in kosovo the exsperience and training of the crews has to be taken into account.
You keep mentioning this even though I've addressed it a number of times. It had a signal for a very short time when the B-2 was within a very short
range with a number of other special conditions.
How can it be for a short time?
We nethier know the exact time nor distance.
Also we do not know the "special conditions" of what you speak of.
I believe you meant to say the USAF won't make a plane Russia can detect, but I'm not really sure...
No russian GEAR, the USA doesnt worry about russia that much , its more about the gear they sell to other countries.
I do not believe America would spend such a huge amount on B-2's, or F-22's if Russia had something that could detect them. It wouldn't be
worthwhile.
Actually every plane can be detected, so that I am afraid is debunked.
It would be better to simply produce something like a more capable Eurofighter that has more RAM applied. Or maybe just a JSF with less stealth and
upped capabilities.
That is so but the military doesnt always have the luxary of going with the simple option.
I believe that the US doesnt need the F22 but something along the lines of the eurofighter, but oh well.
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There's no need for something like the F-22.
I agree.
It does no good to detect something when its right over you. What you're talking about isn't a counter. Conventional radar is not a reliable counter
to stealth. Even the low-frequency radars weren't a relaible counter to first generation stealth. The only reliable way I know of to counter stealth
is PCL, which no one has.
Ah thats not strictly true.
Detecting something above you is effective if many are placed.
If there is only one anti stealth radar which exists that no one has how can it exist?
And for your "cases" to prove the effectiveness of SAM's...That's just pointless. Go take a look at real combat where areas with heavy
concentrations of top of the line SAM's have been bypassed by conventional planes.
I would call a ship a fairly heavy concentration of SAM's , esspecially an anti air ship.
Now tell me again how are these cases not acceptable?
Hell two of them are dirrect attacks on ships by many planes.
Originally posted by Laxpla
Yah, the laser will get disrupted if it went through the clouds, or their would be a hole in the clouds because of the heat will evaporate the water.
But wouldnt the laser shoot after the SAM broke cloud cover? So the laser wont have to go through the clouds.
Hmm yes I would guess that would work, the whole basis of point laser defenses. BUT if you coated the missile in a liquid substance then wouldnt the
laser simply distrupt?
When do the planes drop the bombs, on top of below clouds? I would think above, but to be more accurate the bombs do they need to be below ?
Yeah mass bombing and stuff is above, the more accurate is the lower down ones.
BUT this all depends on the weather conditions.
lol, u know what the funny part is. Humans are the smartest species on earth right? But why the freak do animals know when something bad is going to
happen, for example if a Tornado comes, everything but the cows run. But the Tsunami, before anyone knew it was coming, the animals cleared out and
very few died.
Lol yeah
Animals are quite smart, i mean look at the tracking and killing techniques of preditors, we copy them all the time.
Nature , the ultimate warrior.
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