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How One Major Internet Company Helps Serve Up Hate on the Web
“A website is speech. It is not a bomb,” Cloudflare’s CEO Matthew Prince wrote in a 2013 blog post defending his company’s stance. “There is no imminent danger it creates and no provider has an affirmative obligation to monitor and make determinations about the theoretically harmful nature of speech a site may contain.”
We need to make it clear to all of these people that there are consequences for messing with us,” Anglin wrote in one online post. “We are not a bunch of babies to be kicked around. We will take revenge. And we will do it now.”
Dangerous speech talk by these hate sites are causing people like the killer to act.
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: dreamingawake
Dangerous speech talk by these hate sites are causing people like the killer to act.
The DRIVER is responsible for his actions, no one else.
There are no actual wizards who can MAKE people do things.
Also who get to determine what is "dangerous speech talk" ?
The first works for everyone or it works for no one.
At this point who knows what they were inciting members of the groups to do.
Laws that determine hate speech when it is exempt from free speech: defamation,inciting rioting and violence.
In 2011, the Supreme Court issued their ruling on Snyder v. Phelps, which concerned the right of the Westboro Baptist Church to protest with signs found offensive by many Americans. The issue presented was whether the 1st Amendment protected the expressions written on the signs. In an 8–1 decision the court sided with Fred Phelps, the head of Westboro Baptist Church, thereby confirming their historically strong protection of freedom of speech, so long as it doesn't promote imminent violence. The Court explained, "speech deals with matters of public concern when it can 'be fairly considered as relating to any matter of political, social, or other concern to the community' or when it 'is a subject of general interest and of value and concern to the public.
Effectively, the Supreme Court unanimously reaffirms that there is no 'hate speech' exception to the First Amendment.
Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568 (1942), is a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court articulated the fighting words doctrine, a limitation of the First Amendment's guarantee of freedom of speech.
originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: dreamingawake
At this point who knows what they were inciting members of the groups to do.
So why then did you blame the drivers actions on "dangerous speech talk"?
Laws that determine hate speech when it is exempt from free speech: defamation,inciting rioting and violence.
Now you are just making thing up that do not exist.
SCOTUS backed world renowned pos Fred Phelps. Disparaging someone at their funeral is pretty low, but even that did not provoke "imminent violence".
en.wikipedia.org...
In 2011, the Supreme Court issued their ruling on Snyder v. Phelps, which concerned the right of the Westboro Baptist Church to protest with signs found offensive by many Americans. The issue presented was whether the 1st Amendment protected the expressions written on the signs. In an 8–1 decision the court sided with Fred Phelps, the head of Westboro Baptist Church, thereby confirming their historically strong protection of freedom of speech, so long as it doesn't promote imminent violence. The Court explained, "speech deals with matters of public concern when it can 'be fairly considered as relating to any matter of political, social, or other concern to the community' or when it 'is a subject of general interest and of value and concern to the public.
Effectively, the Supreme Court unanimously reaffirms that there is no 'hate speech' exception to the First Amendment.
What the nazis say is heinous and vile, but it is not illegal.
Because it seems more likely he was following what they say about Dems, Liberals and Antifa, the fact that running protestors over is now to be legal in some places and or being talked of.