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Countdown to all-out civil war in Venezuela

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posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 10:49 AM
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I found this disturbing item in an article about the crisis in Venzuela.


Venezuela’s leftist dictator Nicolas Maduro plans to proceed with a vote to create a new constituent assembly to replace the country’s opposition-controlled Congress with a friendly constituent assembly, potentially enabling the embattled despot to redraft the country’s constitution and officially marginalize his political opponents, despite the US’s repeated threats of “strong and swift economic action."


OK, now. Imagine if the president of the United States (Trump, Obama, whoever) floated a plan to outright replace congress with a new congress full of his political cronies. It would literally be the start of a civil war. And that's what appears to be happening in Venezuela.

Of course the tinpot dictator Maduro is blaming the CIA. Amusingly, Marco Rubio has also been dragged into the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy, after he stated that the US gov't will impose sanctions if the vote happens.




posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 10:53 AM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan


I think about it as I am driving through the streets of Vermont, people going about their merry way with kids in their car seats, etc. 98% of them probably don't even think about (or aren't even aware of) what's happening in Venezuela. It's extremely disheartening for me...

The Venezuelan people are already at war against the police, military, and to an extent each other over resources.

I do think this could be the "straw" (a very heavy straw) that breaks the camel's back though.

There are well off people in Venezuela who are still enjoying luxurious life in fancy, expensive restaurants well everyone outside is burning, starving, or being beaten to death.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 10:54 AM
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They will prolly need to wait in line for bullets first.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Shhhh, it's ok. Trump tweeted a distraction.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 11:51 AM
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a reply to: FamCore

And this is the very, or one of the very reasons for my unwavering support of our second amendment...something similar is trying to rear its ugly head here...
edit on 26-7-2017 by BlueJacket because: sp



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 12:08 PM
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a reply to: BlueJacket

Funny, I was just about to post that it will never happen because they don't have a second.

People don't ask permission to arm themselves in times of war.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 01:36 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
They will prolly need to wait in line for bullets first.


I am 100% the CIA and whatever the Russian equivalent is now will help both sides out on that issue.

Never let the potential for a good proxy war go to waste.
edit on 26-7-2017 by Madwookie because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 02:01 PM
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originally posted by: Madwookie

originally posted by: Bluntone22
They will prolly need to wait in line for bullets first.


I am 100% the CIA and whatever the Russian equivalent is now will help both sides out on that issue.

Never let the potential for a good proxy war go to waste.

But who's going to take Maduro's side? A proxy war with Cuba would be an interesting exercise, but I'm pretty sure most lefties will keep on pretending Venezuela suddenly stopped existing a few years ago.



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 11:30 PM
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originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: FamCore

And this is the very, or one of the very reasons for my unwavering support of our second amendment...something similar is trying to rear its ugly head here...


Socialism in the U.S. just won't fly, for that very reason. Americans can only be pushed so far... the government knows this... this is why our Constitutional rights have been eroded, slowly over time.

...as far as a new civil war between the left and right; it would be a very short conflict. Lefties are afraid of guns, and want them banned... the rest of us are legal gun owners.

From a personal perspective, "war" is a terrifying endeavor. I am a retired USAF MSgt. I have seen my fill of death and destruction. No mentally sound human would ever wish this destruction upon themselves... war is brutal, it is bloody, and brings out the absolute worst in us.

The people in this country that are clamoring for a "new Civil War"... they have obviously never seen war, firsthand...



posted on Jul, 26 2017 @ 11:32 PM
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Has the civil war in Sweden started yet ?



posted on Jul, 27 2017 @ 03:05 AM
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originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
I found this disturbing item in an article about the crisis in Venzuela.


Venezuela’s leftist dictator Nicolas Maduro plans to proceed with a vote to create a new constituent assembly to replace the country’s opposition-controlled Congress with a friendly constituent assembly, potentially enabling the embattled despot to redraft the country’s constitution and officially marginalize his political opponents, despite the US’s repeated threats of “strong and swift economic action."


OK, now. Imagine if the president of the United States (Trump, Obama, whoever) floated a plan to outright replace congress with a new congress full of his political cronies. It would literally be the start of a civil war. And that's what appears to be happening in Venezuela.

Of course the tinpot dictator Maduro is blaming the CIA. Amusingly, Marco Rubio has also been dragged into the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy, after he stated that the US gov't will impose sanctions if the vote happens.




Of course the tinpot dictator Mauro of Venezuela is blaming the CIA. He may have a point. On this website sometime ago and some time before that, there has been videos from an "Economic Hitman" revealing how they played their trade.

There job was to go to third world country and offer to develop the countries infrastructure. The target country would be given cheap loans by the 'World Bank' and other big financial institutions.

The leaders in the third world target countries took the bait and very soon they could not afford all the 'cheap' loans. Then the US banks and the US companies would slip into gear and offer the third world country financial 'salvation' by forgiving some of the debt in return for vast reserves of the nations mineral wealth. ports, railways etc.

Pretty soon the target country would be bankrupt just like Venezuela. The International Monetary Fund via the big US banks would move in and take possession as mortgagee which means all the big US companies could then buy everything worth having so cents in the dollar.

Job done, rise and reapply to another country.

Personally, having raised the issuse of the presence of an Economic Hitman, i reckon people who start these threads have a responsibility to either do the research before hand and be honest about their findings in what they write about a country like Venezuela or admit they carrying water for someone whose identity they choose to not reveal and for reasons they choose not to disclose.

The only other alternative, as i see it, is that its a deliberate attempt to cover the Economic Hitman's tracks.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 08:45 AM
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...And here we go.
The ruling Socialists are claiming that they won every single seat (545) in the "new" assembly. That right there is enough to tell any sensible person that this vote was a total sham. Also, they're claiming voter turnout was 41% of eligible voters, but independent observers are saying the real number is more like 18% turnout.

Regardless, all of the following have said that they wouldn't recognize the vote: The US, Colombia, Spain, Peru, the EU and Argentina.

I'd say civil war is now inevitable.



posted on Jul, 31 2017 @ 09:06 AM
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originally posted by: madmac5150
Socialism in the U.S. just won't fly,


The bigger the government, the more socialist it is.

How big is the US government?



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 03:48 AM
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where is UN when you need it?



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 03:54 AM
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originally posted by: ErrorErrorError
Has the civil war in Sweden started yet ?





Well the only people who think that, are the ones in their own country sitting back letting the media do the thinking for them .

So no surprises there.



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 03:57 AM
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originally posted by: AMPTAH

originally posted by: madmac5150
Socialism in the U.S. just won't fly,


The bigger the government, the more socialist it is.

How big is the US government?






That is only a half truth, the government need people on the payroll to support their actions, they do this handouts.

By creating a dependant percentage of people they are guaranteed the vote, its a fickle world we live in.



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 04:06 AM
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originally posted by: Azureblue

Personally, having raised the issuse of the presence of an Economic Hitman, i reckon people who start these threads have a responsibility to either do the research before hand and be honest about their findings in what they write about a country like Venezuela or admit they carrying water for someone whose identity they choose to not reveal and for reasons they choose not to disclose.

The only other alternative, as i see it, is that its a deliberate attempt to cover the Economic Hitman's tracks.








posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 07:13 AM
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The purge has started.

Two opposition leaders, Leopoldo Lopez and Antonio Ledezma, who had been under house arrest were taken away by Venezuelan intelligence officials last night.



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 08:14 AM
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Leopoldo Lopez's House Arrest Revoked After Violating Terms


Opposition figures in Venezuela Leopoldo Lopez and Antonio Ledezma's house arrests were revoked Tuesday morning after violating the conditions of the agreement that allowed their freedom under special conditions.

Lopez had urged Venezuelans to take to the streets to block the roads to prevent the election of the National Constituent Assembly, along with Henrique Capriles. In June, while he was still in prison, he published a video asking the military to rebel against the government.

Ledezma also sent similar messages before and during the election.


 


What Mainstream Media Got Wrong About Venezuela's Constituent Assembly Vote



posted on Aug, 1 2017 @ 08:33 AM
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I really hope they depose Maduro as soon as possible. We are feeling the effects in Aruba with the refugees. We had lunch with a family two days ago that's about to be split up. A grandmother, son and granddaughter. The grandmother is leaving the child in custody of her son (the child's uncle), because she doesn't have any permit as yet to stay here Aruba. The child is staying because they've been able to get a school for the child to go to here. She's moving to the U.S. to live with the child's mother. She cried in front of us as she explained the situation. She will never be able to go back to her home in Venezuela with Maduro still being in power.

That's just one. We've been feeling the effects for a long time. People coming here (when they were still allowed to travel) to purchase US dollars, or to purchase basic necessities (toilet paper, food etc..) via credit card until our banks started blocking their cards (their cards were worthless as Venezuela started to funds from leaving the country).



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