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originally posted by: ravenshadow13
a reply to: Metallicus
Yes however some of us use our brains and work hard and experience upward mobility in terms of skills and our professional networks, but depending on your sector your may still be left hanging with crumbs of income with no hope of paying off loans, saving for a house, retirement, etc.
I have an advanced degree and six years of work experience and I'll tell you right now that when my parents were my age, they did have it on easy street--their advanced degrees were paid for, my dad had a job with a pension, my mom owned a condo...
I mean, forget it. If they get rid of social security for our generation we will be totally screwed because despite my amazing professional reputation I can't have a future making $700 a month and neither can my peers who are in the same boat. Some of them even have more advanced degrees, more experience, and more debt than I do. I'm not talking about Art History majors. I'm talking about environmental lawyers and scientists.
But we should all go, what, develop apps or something right? Or not have finished college and gotten some cushy job through a friend?
originally posted by: TacSite18
a reply to: toysforadults
My official predication is that the new state (the corporation) is going to start providing housing before raising the wages of employees and it will market it as a new benefit and try to make it look cool.
Like the old "company towns" that the mining industry used in the 19th and into the mid 1930's. You lived in the company housing, got paid in "script" that could only be redeemed ant the company store.
Makes sense to me. We could call it Milleniall feudalism,.
originally posted by: SR1TX
a reply to: lordcomac
You are a fool is the problem.
School costed close to nothing still when you were in it as opposed to now and guess what generation made it possible to saddle Millennials with tons and tons of student loan debt so as to make sure they could get loans taken out against those students as collateral.
The ignorance of the previous generations is both staggering, and appalling.
originally posted by: DoneWithHumans
Most of the older generation that I interact with are idiots compared to Millennials I've met, and the generation before them even dumber many times, some would call this a 'pattern'. I'm not speaking about simple day-to-day life things like Driving, and Computer use, but critical thinking in general. The idea they aren't just 'bad' at video games for example, but literally incapable, while currently 5 year old absolve enough of their environment to understand a button push relates to another event, feels disgusting to me. Imagine having to explain to someone how to use an elevator every opportunity it's used, and that's roughly how it feels having grandparents with a computer and email.
originally posted by: ravenshadow13
a reply to: Metallicus
Yes however some of us use our brains and work hard and experience upward mobility in terms of skills and our professional networks, but depending on your sector your may still be left hanging with crumbs of income with no hope of paying off loans, saving for a house, retirement, etc.
I have an advanced degree and six years of work experience and I'll tell you right now that when my parents were my age, they did have it on easy street--their advanced degrees were paid for, my dad had a job with a pension, my mom owned a condo...
I mean, forget it. If they get rid of social security for our generation we will be totally screwed because despite my amazing professional reputation I can't have a future making $700 a month and neither can my peers who are in the same boat. Some of them even have more advanced degrees, more experience, and more debt than I do. I'm not talking about Art History majors. I'm talking about environmental lawyers and scientists.
But we should all go, what, develop apps or something right? Or not have finished college and gotten some cushy job through a friend?
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: DoneWithHumans
Most of the older generation that I interact with are idiots compared to Millennials I've met, and the generation before them even dumber many times, some would call this a 'pattern'. I'm not speaking about simple day-to-day life things like Driving, and Computer use, but critical thinking in general. The idea they aren't just 'bad' at video games for example, but literally incapable, while currently 5 year old absolve enough of their environment to understand a button push relates to another event, feels disgusting to me. Imagine having to explain to someone how to use an elevator every opportunity it's used, and that's roughly how it feels having grandparents with a computer and email.
By your descriptions here, I can only assume you have a really, really low opinion of the intelligence of anyone living in a third world country. You may have to explain to your grandparents how email and a computer work, but aside from keeping up with the Joneses, where does any of that really get you?
Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs...
1. Physiological... food, shelter, clothing, etc. If Amazon goes down, can you turn raw wool into clothes? If your supermarket experiences a disaster or a shortage, do you possess the knowledge and skills to hunt or trap animals or forage, recognizing the difference between an edible plant and a noxious one? Do you have the skillset required to construct a shelter for yourself out of naturally available materials that will actually keep you dry and warm?
2. Safety... this one is a doozey these days for one simple reason, mental and emotional elasticity. I'll be blunt, my generation seems to be comprised of a large percentage of fragile, wilting emotional basket cases. My grandparents and parents generation were drafted to fight bloody wars. They witnessed atrocities first hand and then had to recenter their psyches to return stateside and reclaim normal, healthy lives. Somehow I have a hard time picturing anyone who gets "triggered" by someone simply using the wrong pronoun having a very healthy amount of emotional elasticity.
Everything above these two on the pyramid are conveniences at best and are not components of one's survival. Understanding email and being able to frag a group of 12 year olds in COD is right up there at the tippy top of the pyramid, basically alongside knowing who won the 1994 World Series or being able to name the last 5 American Idol winners.
You wanna know what my number one issue with my generation and Gen Y is? They lack perspective and are too damn arrogant to even realize it. We live in a world of artificial horseSNIP. Very little in this modern urban world means jack squat on the grand scheme of things. In 1,000 years archeologists aren't going to be at a dig saying "Holy Cow Watson, I've discovered a piece of a bag with GAP written on it!" They're certainly not going to be digging up the greatest inventions and developments of the past 30 years, either, because very few of those are even physically tangible. Computer programs, cell phone operating systems, and memes aren't going to survive antiquity. In fact, at the rate society is going, I doubt the future will find much of interest in mankind from now onward. They're attention will, however, be fixated on the last great generation of mankind because that generation actually created and constructed monuments to humanity which will last. That generation is the generation of those grandparents you arrogantly judge based on their ability and interest in meaningless trivialities and spectacles of a throw away culture.
originally posted by: kosmicjack
Just got through this whole thread. Wow, we are so #ed.
originally posted by: kosmicjack
Just got through this whole thread. Wow, we are so #ed.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: DoneWithHumans
Most of the older generation that I interact with are idiots compared to Millennials I've met, and the generation before them even dumber many times, some would call this a 'pattern'. I'm not speaking about simple day-to-day life things like Driving, and Computer use, but critical thinking in general. The idea they aren't just 'bad' at video games for example, but literally incapable, while currently 5 year old absolve enough of their environment to understand a button push relates to another event, feels disgusting to me. Imagine having to explain to someone how to use an elevator every opportunity it's used, and that's roughly how it feels having grandparents with a computer and email.
By your descriptions here, I can only assume you have a really, really low opinion of the intelligence of anyone living in a third world country. You may have to explain to your grandparents how email and a computer work, but aside from keeping up with the Joneses, where does any of that really get you?
Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs...
1. Physiological... food, shelter, clothing, etc. If Amazon goes down, can you turn raw wool into clothes? If your supermarket experiences a disaster or a shortage, do you possess the knowledge and skills to hunt or trap animals or forage, recognizing the difference between an edible plant and a noxious one? Do you have the skillset required to construct a shelter for yourself out of naturally available materials that will actually keep you dry and warm?
2. Safety... this one is a doozey these days for one simple reason, mental and emotional elasticity. I'll be blunt, my generation seems to be comprised of a large percentage of fragile, wilting emotional basket cases. My grandparents and parents generation were drafted to fight bloody wars. They witnessed atrocities first hand and then had to recenter their psyches to return stateside and reclaim normal, healthy lives. Somehow I have a hard time picturing anyone who gets "triggered" by someone simply using the wrong pronoun having a very healthy amount of emotional elasticity.
Everything above these two on the pyramid are conveniences at best and are not components of one's survival. Understanding email and being able to frag a group of 12 year olds in COD is right up there at the tippy top of the pyramid, basically alongside knowing who won the 1994 World Series or being able to name the last 5 American Idol winners.
You wanna know what my number one issue with my generation and Gen Y is? They lack perspective and are too damn arrogant to even realize it. We live in a world of artificial horseSNIP. Very little in this modern urban world means jack squat on the grand scheme of things. In 1,000 years archeologists aren't going to be at a dig saying "Holy Cow Watson, I've discovered a piece of a bag with GAP written on it!" They're certainly not going to be digging up the greatest inventions and developments of the past 30 years, either, because very few of those are even physically tangible. Computer programs, cell phone operating systems, and memes aren't going to survive antiquity. In fact, at the rate society is going, I doubt the future will find much of interest in mankind from now onward. They're attention will, however, be fixated on the last great generation of mankind because that generation actually created and constructed monuments to humanity which will last. That generation is the generation of those grandparents you arrogantly judge based on their ability and interest in meaningless trivialities and spectacles of a throw away culture.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: kosmicjack
Just got through this whole thread. Wow, we are so #ed.
Only in so much as we artificially prevent the natural consequences of personal choice and survival of the fittest. The day we decided that nobody should be allowed to fall victim to their own arrogance, stupidity, and laziness was a horrible day in the development of humankind, representing a major step backwards and away from a strong population. Eventually we will, as a species, again embrace natural consequences and stop pandering to the lowest common denominator. Then we'll get things back on track.