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originally posted by: SBMcG
originally posted by: Milehigh
originally posted by: SBMcG
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: SBMcG
Even if it were a "Muslim ban", the President has absolute authority under the Constitution to ban ANY GROUP for any reason from entering this country. This judge in Hawaii is just the typical activist leftist subverting the Constitution.
That is true, even if the judge attempts to extend the constitution to people outside the jurisdiction of the United States.
OK -- I should have been more clear...
The president can ban NON-CITIZENS for any reason.
As you've correctly stated, the Constitution does not extend rights to non-citizens.
The fact that you mention this clearly denotes that you have not done your homework in regards to the constitution.
14th Amendment : “nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Id say this gives illegal immigrants or non citizen more rights than in many countries.
Yeah, I have studied and MEMORIZED the Constitution for decades... You are not even close to interpreting that passage correctly.
Foreign non-citizens do not have Constitutional rights. period. Not one.
If they did, anyone could wake up one morning and come to this country no questions asked. 500 million Chinese? No problem. They have constitutional rights.
The Constitution is clear: the President has absolute power to limit or restrict the entry of any group of people for any reason.
Personally, a "Muslim ban" doesn't bother me. We have an "illegal alien" ban. We have a "criminal alien" ban.
Again -- when this gets to the Supreme Court, the America-hating Left will lose (again, lol).
originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
The Trump Admin. refuses to grant the rules they are legally bound to follow any relevance.
Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate immigration. In 1952, Congress passed a law empowering the president to deny entry into the U.S. to “any class of aliens” considered to be “detrimental to the interests of the United States.” In other words, a threat to America and in the interests of national security.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: odzeandennz
He must have put Mexico in quotes ["mexico"] i guess.
Let us know when Mexico sends the check, or when we start making cuts to fund the wall... either way.
Unfortunately that's not what he meant by getting Mexico to pay for it, which is apparent by the information made available on his website since the very beginning of his campaign. I guess mentalists should have read the information instead of assuming.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: odzeandennz
He must have put Mexico in quotes ["mexico"] i guess.
Let us know when Mexico sends the check, or when we start making cuts to fund the wall... either way.
Unfortunately that's not what he meant by getting Mexico to pay for it, which is apparent by the information made available on his website since the very beginning of his campaign. I guess mentalists should have read the information instead of assuming.
originally posted by: Milehigh
originally posted by: SBMcG
originally posted by: Milehigh
originally posted by: SBMcG
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: SBMcG
Even if it were a "Muslim ban", the President has absolute authority under the Constitution to ban ANY GROUP for any reason from entering this country. This judge in Hawaii is just the typical activist leftist subverting the Constitution.
That is true, even if the judge attempts to extend the constitution to people outside the jurisdiction of the United States.
OK -- I should have been more clear...
The president can ban NON-CITIZENS for any reason.
As you've correctly stated, the Constitution does not extend rights to non-citizens.
The fact that you mention this clearly denotes that you have not done your homework in regards to the constitution.
14th Amendment : “nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Id say this gives illegal immigrants or non citizen more rights than in many countries.
Yeah, I have studied and MEMORIZED the Constitution for decades... You are not even close to interpreting that passage correctly.
Foreign non-citizens do not have Constitutional rights. period. Not one.
If they did, anyone could wake up one morning and come to this country no questions asked. 500 million Chinese? No problem. They have constitutional rights.
The Constitution is clear: the President has absolute power to limit or restrict the entry of any group of people for any reason.
Personally, a "Muslim ban" doesn't bother me. We have an "illegal alien" ban. We have a "criminal alien" ban.
Again -- when this gets to the Supreme Court, the America-hating Left will lose (again, lol).
You can choose to ignore the parts of the Constitution you do not agree with all you want, it does not make it less real.
Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate immigration. In 1952, Congress passed a law empowering the president to deny entry into the U.S. to “any class of aliens” considered to be “detrimental to the interests of the United States.” In other words, a threat to America and in the interests of national security.
originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: SBMcG
Non citizens within the U.S. and it's territories are entitled to the same Constitutional protections as citizens are.
Read It.
originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: SBMcG
Non citizens within the U.S. and it's territories are entitled to the same Constitutional protections as citizens are.
Read It.
originally posted by: SBMcG
originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
The Trump Admin. refuses to grant the rules they are legally bound to follow any relevance.
Trump is following the Constitution to the letter.
The leftist judge is doing what all leftist judges do -- ignoring the Constitution and legislating from the bench.
Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate immigration. In 1952, Congress passed a law empowering the president to deny entry into the U.S. to “any class of aliens” considered to be “detrimental to the interests of the United States.” In other words, a threat to America and in the interests of national security.
Once Trump's EO -- and I hope it's the first one, gets to the SCOTUS, it will be ruled constitutional and a lot of leftists are going to be left eating crow.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: carewemust
Here's a decent op-ed by neoconservative David Frum of the Atlantic on your very topic.
The Dangerous Precedent Set by Judicial Attacks on Trump's Travel Ban
originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: SBMcG
Ever heard of DUE PROCESS ?.
The guys at Guantanamo don't have the right to it because they were never on U.S. soil.
If they were here they would have a right to DUE PROCESS.
DUE PROCESS means they can't just be scooped up and deported without some kind of reason, if you ever went anywhere aside from here and trucked around a bit, you might actually understand what DUE PROCESS is.
originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: SBMcG
I have this funky old outdated PAPER BOOK Constitution here, and that stuff you so skillfully copied and pasted ain't nowhere to be found there...
Section 212(f), states: "Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."
originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: SBMcG
Yeah, I'm not arguing that point.
I'm saying they are entitled to nearly the same, if not the same Constitutional protections a citizens.
Really though, it seems as if they actually have more protections than your average American sometimes, but that's a different subject entirely.
originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: SBMcG
1950s: McCarran-Walter Act, 1952
Not the Constitution....
originally posted by: carewemust
March 13, 2017
With Federal Judges across the nation making up FAKE/WEAK reasons for defying President Trump's temporary travel bans, what else have WE THE PEOPLE given them to power to do?
Can an anti-American judge also suddenly stop Trump Wall from starting? Or halt it, during the process of being built, citing "Most Mexicans are Catholics" and labeling the wall a Catholic discrimination tool?
How about if the 300mph High-Speed Train crosses Indian Land? Forget the fact that Indians would financially benefit. A mentally unbalanced, lone-wolf anti-Trump Judge, could rule the rail line project as discriminatory to Indians, because they have spirit elders hovering in the vicinity.
Have we given Federal Judges so much power that they can literally do whatever they want? If so...how can we legally reduce their authority???
-CareWeMust