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Can Anti-Trump So-Called Judges Stop ALL of His Major Projects?

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posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 07:40 PM
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originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: SBMcG

Ever heard of DUE PROCESS ?.

The guys at Guantanamo don't have the right to it because they were never on U.S. soil.

If they were here they would have a right to DUE PROCESS.

DUE PROCESS means they can't just be scooped up and deported without some kind of reason, if you ever went anywhere aside from here and trucked around a bit, you might actually understand what DUE PROCESS is.



And do YOU understand what "here" is as opposed to "there"?

What the hell are you arguing about anyway?

Ask Carter about Iranians.



It never ceases to amaze me how much more these leftists care about non-citizens than the safety of their fellow Americans.

I guess that's why they're never in power for long, and when they are, can't get their loony anti-America agenda through.




posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 07:43 PM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner

The Trump Admin. refuses to grant the rules they are legally bound to follow any relevance.


Trump is following the Constitution to the letter.

The leftist judge is doing what all leftist judges do -- ignoring the Constitution and legislating from the bench.


Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate immigration. In 1952, Congress passed a law empowering the president to deny entry into the U.S. to “any class of aliens” considered to be “detrimental to the interests of the United States.” In other words, a threat to America and in the interests of national security.


Once Trump's EO -- and I hope it's the first one, gets to the SCOTUS, it will be ruled constitutional and a lot of leftists are going to be left eating crow.


I guess trumps cabinet should go to you for constitutional advice. So even in a 'Right' cabinet, no one can devise a bill which can have immunity from those 'leftist' judges.

I mean your quote of article 1 section 8 clearly states the power of Congress over immigration... and yet here we are.


Between Trump and that judge, there can only be one div....
its the one at the top of the chain of command.


Article I, Sec. 8 grants Congress the power to grant the President absolute power to regulate immigration, as it did in the Nationality and Immigration Act of 1952.

Try to keep up.
edit on 16-3-2017 by SBMcG because: Obama is a failed dummy.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian



How the hell does that even make sense? Nearly half of the would be ban period has passed. Are they not "finding out what's going on" or whatever vague, stupid, nonsensical reason Trump cited for the ban in the first place?


Ever since Homaland Security came out with their report that our domestic terrorism is coming from people who have been in country over a decade, and been radicalized within our own borders, Trump's emergency Muslim ban, "until we find out what's going on" is moot anyway.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 07:45 PM
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originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: SBMcG

Ever heard of DUE PROCESS ?.

The guys at Guantanamo don't have the right to it because they were never on U.S. soil.

If they were here they would have a right to DUE PROCESS.

DUE PROCESS means they can't just be scooped up and deported without some kind of reason, if you ever went anywhere aside from here and trucked around a bit, you might actually understand what DUE PROCESS is.


Due process is one right granted to both citizens and non-citizen resident aliens.

That is correct.

That does not make non-citizens citizens, nor are they granted many of the rights of citizenship that citizens are.

Again, the President can deport a non-citizen for any reason.
edit on 16-3-2017 by SBMcG because: Bill Clinton's wife lost the popular vote.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: SBMcG

Ever heard of DUE PROCESS ?.

The guys at Guantanamo don't have the right to it because they were never on U.S. soil.

If they were here they would have a right to DUE PROCESS.

DUE PROCESS means they can't just be scooped up and deported without some kind of reason, if you ever went anywhere aside from here and trucked around a bit, you might actually understand what DUE PROCESS is.



And do YOU understand what "here" is as opposed to "there"?

What the hell are you arguing about anyway?

Ask Carter about Iranians.



It never ceases to amaze me how much more these leftists care about non-citizens than the safety of their fellow Americans.

I guess that's why they're never in power for long, and when they are, can't get their loony anti-America agenda through.



Blows my mind too.

They have plenty of "useful idiots" on their side too.




posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: windword
Trump's emergency Muslim ban, "until we find out what's going on" is moot anyway.



Until the Supreme Court smacks down the leftist 9th, as they've become used to doing.

There will be a ban.
edit on 16-3-2017 by SBMcG because: Bill Clinton's wife is involved Pizzagate. Ask Carlos Wiener.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 07:48 PM
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originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: SBMcG

Ever heard of DUE PROCESS ?.

The guys at Guantanamo don't have the right to it because they were never on U.S. soil.

If they were here they would have a right to DUE PROCESS.

DUE PROCESS means they can't just be scooped up and deported without some kind of reason, if you ever went anywhere aside from here and trucked around a bit, you might actually understand what DUE PROCESS is.



And do YOU understand what "here" is as opposed to "there"?

What the hell are you arguing about anyway?

Ask Carter about Iranians.



It never ceases to amaze me how much more these leftists care about non-citizens than the safety of their fellow Americans.

I guess that's why they're never in power for long, and when they are, can't get their loony anti-America agenda through.



Blows my mind too.

They have plenty of "useful idiots" on their side too.



I know their true motivations. I'm not fooled.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: SBMcG

I didn't imply non-citizen aliens were granted the same rights a citizens, I do however realize that a lot of citizens feel that non-resident aliens are entitled to no Constitutional protections at all, as I have heard said with my "meat ears" coming out of people's "meat pie holes" and seen and heard and read in the media.

No one is deported without due process, that's why we have immigration courts.

Anyone could potentially be lawfully prevented from coming here, but once they're here they have Constitutional protections.


edit on ? by MyHappyDogShiner because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 07:58 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: carewemust
March 13, 2017

With Federal Judges across the nation making up FAKE/WEAK reasons for defying President Trump's temporary travel bans, what else have WE THE PEOPLE given them to power to do?

Can an anti-American judge also suddenly stop Trump Wall from starting? Or halt it, during the process of being built, citing "Most Mexicans are Catholics" and labeling the wall a Catholic discrimination tool?

How about if the 300mph High-Speed Train crosses Indian Land? Forget the fact that Indians would financially benefit. A mentally unbalanced, lone-wolf anti-Trump Judge, could rule the rail line project as discriminatory to Indians, because they have spirit elders hovering in the vicinity.

Have we given Federal Judges so much power that they can literally do whatever they want? If so...how can we legally reduce their authority???

-CareWeMust

You equate a liberal court with being anti-American. More people voted against Trump than for him. So, that other percentage that supports a centrist SC...are they anti-American, too?


Absolutely meaningless.

If the Constitution required the president be elected by popular vote the campaigns would be run accordingly and Bill Clinton's unaccomplished, inept, corrupt, drunk of a wife would have lost even worse than she did.

People would also vote accordingly. In many states people don't vote because they know that vote won't count because of the Electoral System. If every vote counted, you would see a massive power-shift to the right in this country. Leftists -- "liberals", are only 25% of the electorate.

In 2016, when you factor out California, Trump won the popular vote by 1.3 million. Think about that...
edit on 16-3-2017 by SBMcG because: Bill Clinton's wife lost the popular vote too!



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 08:00 PM
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originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: SBMcG

I didn't imply non-citizen aliens were granted the same rights a citizens, I do however realize that a lot of citizens feel that non-resident aliens are entitled to no Constitutional protections at all, as I have heard said with my "meat ears" coming out of people's "meat pie holes" and seen and heard and read in the media.

No one is deported without due process, that's why we have immigration courts.

This is one issue being discussed here.


How would you feel about an immigration quota system based upon the current demographics of this country?

62% European White

17% Hispanic/Latino

13% African black

5% Asian

3% Other

Just curious...



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: SBMcG

I don't care...



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: SBMcG

1950s: McCarran-Walter Act, 1952

Not the Constitution....


Jesus...

As I told you before, under Article I Congress has absolute power over immigration.

The 1952 Act extended that CONSTITUTIONAL grant of power to the President.

In this case, your president -- Donald J. Trump.


Except the court of law has overuled the President and there is nothing he can do against it thanks to the judicial branch of the government.

He can go to the Supreme court and be overuled again if he wishes to and it will put an end to the debate.

He can then choose to ignore it and be held in contempt of court and we can send the US marshalls over to the white house.
edit on 16-3-2017 by Milehigh because: (no reason given)

edit on 16-3-2017 by Milehigh because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 08:13 PM
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originally posted by: Milehigh

originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: SBMcG

1950s: McCarran-Walter Act, 1952

Not the Constitution....


Jesus...

As I told you before, under Article I Congress has absolute power over immigration.

The 1952 Act extended that CONSTITUTIONAL grant of power to the President.

In this case, your president -- Donald J. Trump.


Except the court of law has overuled the President and there is nothing he can do against it thanks to the judicial branch of the government.

He can go to supreme court and be overuled again if he wishes to and it will put an end to the debate.

He can then choose to ignore it and be held in contempt of court and we can send the US marshalls over to the white house.


The ruling will be overturned by the Trump Supreme Court. The Constitution and law is with your president -- Donald J. Trump, 100%.

The Left is powerless to stop the Trump agenda.
edit on 16-3-2017 by SBMcG because: Obama was a miserable failure.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: SBMcG

Out of curiosity, what will you say if the supreme court stops him too?



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 08:19 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Why do you keep posting things that are not true?

Trump, as President of the United States, can actually ban whomever he wants as far as immigration goes, for any means whatsoever. Period. Not Constitutional? Please link to me the rights of non-citizens in the Constitution.

I'm surprised that as a Progressive you don't understand the term Plenary power. Or maybe you do, for Progressive presidents.

The ability to shut down the refugee program was specifically delegated to the president under 8 U.S.C. §1157(a)(2) — the same authority Obama used to ratchet up refugee intake. However, the glue that binds Trump’s authority to shut off all or any category of immigrant and non-immigrant visas comes from INA 212(f), which is at-will plenary authority expressed in the strongest terms:


Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.


This is not the type of provision that a court can demand evidence that the condition of “detrimental to interests” was met. The delegation of authority was designed as plenary power under the broad auspices of “detrimental interests.” The courts have absolutely no authority to second-guess the president’s determination. That is up to Congress and the electorate. As a recent CRS report observes from the House Report on the 1952 immigration bill that granted this authority: “The bill vests in the President the authority to suspend the entry of all aliens if he finds that their entry would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, for such period as he shall deem necessary.” [H.R.RPT.1365, 82d Cong.,2d Sess., at 53 (Feb. 14, 1952)]

These judges have no jurisdiction in the matter, as anyone with a lick of common sense can ascertain.

As far as anti-American, that would be a Progressive, since it is their goal to remake America into a statist Utopia.

That would be you.

So at least get your terms straight.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: SBMcG
The Left is powerless to stop the Trump agenda.
Just between you and me...I think it's the Right you have to worry about.
edit on 16-3-2017 by JohnnyCanuck because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 08:21 PM
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Not a single person noted that I said that Non-Citizen Aliens were entitled to Constitutional "Protections", not "Rights".

Oh well, my countrymen are inattentive.

Goldfish.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 08:21 PM
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originally posted by: Milehigh
a reply to: SBMcG

Out of curiosity, what will you say if the supreme court stops him too?


The Constitution and law are clear. I know the SCOTUS will rule in his favor.

You do know that the courts who have ruled against him (with one exception) are all part of the most overturned Circuit in the court system, right?

The 9th Circuit Court is reversed or vacated by the SCOTUS 80% of the time. Think about that...


edit on 16-3-2017 by SBMcG because: Obama is a failed dummy.



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 08:24 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: SBMcG
The Left is powerless to stop the Trump agenda.
Just between you and me...I think it's the Right you have to worry about.


Really? I'm on the Right. Do I have to worry about myself?



posted on Mar, 16 2017 @ 08:24 PM
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originally posted by: SBMcG

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: MyHappyDogShiner
a reply to: SBMcG

Ever heard of DUE PROCESS ?.

The guys at Guantanamo don't have the right to it because they were never on U.S. soil.

If they were here they would have a right to DUE PROCESS.

DUE PROCESS means they can't just be scooped up and deported without some kind of reason, if you ever went anywhere aside from here and trucked around a bit, you might actually understand what DUE PROCESS is.



And do YOU understand what "here" is as opposed to "there"?

What the hell are you arguing about anyway?

Ask Carter about Iranians.



It never ceases to amaze me how much more these leftists care about non-citizens than the safety of their fellow Americans.

I guess that's why they're never in power for long, and when they are, can't get their loony anti-America agenda through.


I started a thread dedicated to absurdities of liberal-leftist leaders. But I couldn't keep up!

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