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reply posted on 1-2-2005 @ 10:56 PM by knutjar
Contact me & micromidas for microscopic minor material details
Jarknut@spray.no God needs billions workers & test pilots film makers++
The wheel made humans greed motorised.You eat then you s..
oil is like one billion microwheels, and turns on endurance
When using oil as fuel we waste endurance for next generations
Dont oil pollution, wars,Weapons destruction, power-ty and so on
Power & responsible is unlimited and so is catastrophs
Use the important time correct and learn wisdom
because in a open prison you can make some changes to happen.
I live in a freezing hell & i am on the filty list of
doomed by age and other nasty stuff.But no earthquakes yet
They are caused by human activity in some vulnerable areas,
some area of earth is populated by "call them invisible but material beeings
Dont build anything in this areas.To few humans can guide in
vu areas, and i hope more people can reach new levels ?
I use astrologi, numberologi, alphabetologi, religion & o(u)ther contacts Walking the sunny side will only force nights and nightmares on us
Try getting the waves small as a dc line not ac line
Dont be to happy ,rich and so on.Prisonguards dont like that.no joking
In t mean time only fix existing houses, and leave vulnerable areas`s & the rain forest
www.care2.com... tsunami
I read about global dimming- sceard me hell is hot or cold
Dont consume coffe cake chips coca cola cream cake candy
chocolate cigar cigarettes next christmas!
Can someone post this to "some" newspapers for me
Postman? post this letter to some newspapers for me,


reply posted on 3-2-2005 @ 09:03 AM by Byrd
Originally posted by duff beer dragon
Any environmental conspiracy was first of all to prevent the inception of clean and renewable technology, before any countries became heavily industrialised,


Actually, the forms of energy that we had before industrialization were niether clean nor easily renewable. London had some horrendous smogs that killed lots of people, and pollution made many cities and their rivers a dangerous place to live. In areas with lower rainfall, trees were cut down for fuel without regard to how long it took for them to grow. Climate change caused by deforestation added to local problems and pollution.

And then there's the cut and burn technology that farmers had.

No, we started out as polluters.

and nowadays to supress it, tho' the supression today is mostly all informational, the technologies themselves and methods, are in operation all over the world.

Hardly.

It's generally a problem of cost and conversion and accessibility. There's a ton of information on the Internet. I've been following the solar energy stuff, myself but the truth is that the costs still aren't down to the range where Joe Average can put up a solar array on his or her roof and cut down considerably on the electric bills. By the time you add in the cost of materials and getting this alternate fuel source hooked up, it takes 10 - 20 years to recoup the investment -- and by then the tech will have gotten better.

There's lots of initiatives out there which could be explored and are often being explored by individuals. It's cost effective for someone to tinker until they can get their car to run on waste kitchen grease. But it's not cost effective for the Ford Motor Company to do that (redesign entire plants, retrain people, and try to find enough grease to power every possible car.)



reply posted on 5-2-2005 @ 11:57 PM by AlabamaCajun
Good points.

Scraps of food are acidic and might help to disolve the bag it is in over time. My scraps go into a can for composting.

Grease/oils, each city can only produce enough to run the school busses and a few other vehicles, but thats a start and a good thing. The more modes of transportation we move away from fossiles the better. We could possibly come up with other fuel sources to cover trains and delivery vans then 18 wheelers. This would cover a large segment removed from fossiles leaving the driving public. The answer to that might be in photovoltic surfaces on the upper surfaces, would hinder the finish colors a little, but a stash a few watts in the cells while it bakes in the sun. At home you could charge it from your solar roof, wind turbine, bio-gas plant, sterling generator etc. This is possible now for some of the population that makes commutes and their home is mostly vacant during the day and their auto sits in the rays all day both soaking up power to be used later.

Hydros' about tapped out, unless new ways to harness it from flood zones can be exploitec.
Some greywater projects are underway. A local chicken plant will divert it's potent waste water to a downhill aquafilter. If they harvest the reeds from it through a thinning process, then that can be converted to compost for fertilizer. Tank your bath/shower water, filter it and pump it out to a flower/pocket garden (maybe not veggies, collect rainwater for them).


reply posted on 7-2-2005 @ 11:29 AM by duff beer dragon
Great, a big gay pirate avatar is trying to tell me that technology started out as dirty.

It didn't. Water powered cars are even older than the updated petrol ones. Watermills and windmills are a bit older than that again.

And,

If it wasn't supressed, then it would actually feature in all instances of such topics being discussed, or written up in various news media, or being on the news, or on TV in general. It would also show up as jobs needing done.

Those things tend to not happen,

go to your local super or hyper market, or 7-11, or whatever - how much of that produce is organicly grown, proper organic? Are they using strip lighting in the store still? Are they using photovoltaic roof tiles, or any kind of back-up or always-on power source that is renewable, or do they get their power from the renewable-only sources on the grid - if you even have those over there (you are in the USA?).
How much of sewage is composted properly?
How much of rubbish is recycled if it could be, or - re-used?
How much of electronics and machinery are correctly stripped, so that the working parts (usually - most of them bar one resistor.....) can continue to be used, and the broken ones repaired if possible?
Is your water treated correctly, is it even spun at all?! before it gets to your home.
I could go on about this, is this, is that, cause it covers just about everything that exists.


Uh, I know about building regulations, not heard of LEED specificly, but - as with above, I don't see what you are trying to imply by that. Even if new buildings are trying to meet proper environmental considerations - there are still loads of building projects that are happening in areas where they shouldn't, most homes are nowhere near enviro friendly, and frankly I doubt - without even looking it up at all - that the regs you mention will have things that would come up to the standard of installing compost loos for example. They probably leave all the lights on when there's no-one around to use them too.
Why are so many old buildings not restored, some of them are absolute gems.
That BBC Restoration TV show - the govt. should pay to do all those buildings up, you shouldn't be able to build anything new unless you can prove you really can't find anywhere that already exists to use.

Does LEED include off the grid energy sources, rainwater sollection systems and grey water recycle - ie, the actual things mentioned in the title of this post? What part of it's regulations did you feel would cover the various things raised here?
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