Rachel Maddow tweets. BREAKING We've got Trump tax returns. Tonight, 9pm ET. MSNBC.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Grambler

But where was that attitude under Obama

Deflection.

Reflection.

C'mon Grmabler. You can do better than that.

What I have said in this thread is not unreasonable and you simply deflected...for whatever reason.

I said if you didn't fall into that group then that post wasn't directed at you.

Why is the left wing media and democrats only interested in these ties when its trump?

Look at Maddow tonight. Should we really trust these "journalists" to fairly investigate Trumps ties?

She just spent an hour spreading conspiracy theories off of a document that says Trump paid over 20% of his income in taxes, and shows no wrong doing.

But yep, lets trust her and her cohorts to keep the investigation going, even when the admit they hate Trump.

Your point earlier was 100% correct.
Most level headed people will look at that tonight and say, 'I understand why Trump won't release his returns"

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: Grambler

Here in Australia the amount of tax you pay is directly proportional to your gross earnings, I'm pretty sure you also have a progressive sliding scale for taxation and if so, I would have expected Trump to pay more taxes than Mr $200,000/annum + benefits?

It would be reasonable to think that. BUt then again, many on the left are far from reasonable.

We are talking Sanders-esque socialism.

Let me put it in a nut shell.

Everyone must pay except him and people that agree with him.

See how that works? Quite a simple system really.

originally posted by: burgerbuddy
How did they get these returns in the first place?

The fat guy on the show apparently 'found it'.

Just look at his name. He enjoys being the outcast. I think he does it purposely. Maybe it gives him purpose.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: JinMI

This is wholly incorrect. Statements like this hurt your credibility and show cause as to why the Democratic party lost so bad in the past elections.

First you assume I give a damn about what credibility you and others give me and you also assume I'm a Democrat. I don't know how many times I have to say it...I'm not a liberal and I'm not a Democrat.

I don't take you as a fool Introvert but this is a foolish statement.

Is it not true? He was elected by people that give no concern about his financial ties. This thread is proof.

As a member of a board where you are communicating facts and opinion with other anonymous people, yes, I do believe you give a damn about credibility or you wouldn't deem necessary to speak at all on anything.

I don't assume you belong to any political party, I do know what you lean given our track record. Also, in this thread, it really doesn't matter what, if any, your affiliation is.

Many people want to see his tax returns. Few really care what is in them. Are you hoping to find something that directly ties him to the Russian government? Quick news flash, that already happened with another candidate and supporters of her didn't bat an eye.

A bit late to the party, but I see all is quiet on the left?

*crickets*

Thank you Maddow for showing us that OUR president has paid taxes

a reply to: UKTruth

If you say so... I think they were normal Americans who wanted change and didn't care about tax returns from a billionaire real estate developer. I know many of them.

Normal American's also voted for other candidates. That's the problem. You think people other than those who think like you are abnormal.

You can revel in your moral superiority all you like, but what we saw tonight from Maddow was car crash TV.

It was a car crash, but I have no idea what you are talking about in regards to moral superiority.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Whether they impede the future actions of an individual can only be proved after those actions take place.

How can we prove if their actions were wrong/unconstitutional if we do not know whom they are tied to?

That's the main point here.

originally posted by: Martin75
a reply to: burgerbuddy
Someone left them in David Clay Johnson's mail box and he gifted this to her.

Yeah, they should investigate him for solicitation of the tax returns.

That's a felony charge for him and whoever in the IRS gave them to him.

I guess start with the IRS as source for the leak.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: burgerbuddy
How did they get these returns in the first place?

The claim is he got them in the mail. Now the spin is Trump leaked them to him. But MadCow was gushimg about how this guy was the best investigative reporter on financial matters ever. Funny that...so he's a great investigative reporter that anonymously had Trumps return from 2005 mailed to him? That doesn't take much investigation.

So now the fail has happened the spin is Trump leaked them so nobody can go to jail right? Let's see how hard this backfires....LOL!

Hahahaha!

You can't write this stuff.

Maddow tweets out she will have a bombshell show about these returns. Somewhere within the epsisode she realizes that these documents show absolutely nothing wrong, and so they start the conspiracy theory that Trump himself leaked these documents.

This is unbelievable!

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: Martin75
a reply to: burgerbuddy
Someone left them in David Clay Johnson's mail box and he gifted this to her.

Yeah, they should investigate him for solicitation of the tax returns.

That's a felony charge for him and whoever in the IRS gave them to him.

I noticed on the copy of taxes there is a stamp of "Client Copy". Does that matter? Would both sides have that document or should that one be Trump's copy?

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: Martin75
a reply to: burgerbuddy
Someone left them in David Clay Johnson's mail box and he gifted this to her.

Yeah, they should investigate him for solicitation of the tax returns.

That's a felony charge for him and whoever in the IRS gave them to him.

I guess start with the IRS as source for the leak.

If this was a honey pot trap, then applause is in order.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth

If you say so... I think they were normal Americans who wanted change and didn't care about tax returns from a billionaire real estate developer. I know many of them.

Normal American's also voted for other candidates. That's the problem. You think people other than those who think like you are abnormal.

Well that was a bit of a stretch!

It's obvious UKTruth wasn't insinuating that anyone who didn't vote for trump was "abnormal". Are you just here to pick fights?

Honestly... The guy's name is UKTruth

THEY'RE NOT EVEN AMERICAN!

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Ohanka

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

originally posted by: introvert
A bit disappointed in Maddow so far.

She seems to have overblown this issue without having more supporting documents to cast doubt on Trump's dealings.

I completely agree that Trump potentially has some conflicts of interest that need to be investigated and we should all be in favor of transparency in such an instance.

That holds true, whether it's Trump, Obama, Clinton...etc.

OMG! After reading about four pages of how stupid this whole setup was, then hitting your "speed bump" of a post trying to make it sound like it wasn't the most ridiculous thing from MSNBC in a while is...well...typical. You will do anything to make it look like the left has even an ounce of credibility left. Which it doesn't.

But your denial, your unrelenting support for the idiotic is truly the punchline of this thread.

What did I deny?

I even said Maddow is coming up short.

You are being nice. This is akin to 2 false starts in the 100m track and field Olympic final, with the world watching.

Again, should we not want to know what financial ties our leaders have?

Sure why not.

But if someone like just owns a hotel in Belarus and 3 or so in Russia it's hardly a cause for concern. Hotel chains open up all over the place. It's a legitimate business after all.

Now if someone runs an international "charity" organisation, which is basically a front for laundering money and bribery, now that's a cause for concern. Especially if that money is coming from the likes of the tyrannical Saud dynasty.

So why aren't you open to transparency and full-disclosure?

Seems to me that many of you are being hypocritical.

Transparency in one case, but the other is none of our business.

No, I think the hypocrites are the people talking about full disclosure, who turned a blind eye to all the foreign entanglments of Trump's election opponent and said 'prove it' every time she was questioned.

Another deflection.

originally posted by: conspiracy nut
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

So you want to go back to isolationism? You want America to be an island ? You want America to be up on top of a hill in an ivory tower looking down on the rest of the world? You know what will happen if we do that? The rest of the world will eventually come to the bottom of the tower with torches.

The third world is reproducing at an alarming rate, what are we going to do with the hordes of poverty stricken humans across the globe come banging down our doors like they already have been!

We have to figure out a way to help the third world develop its own infrastructure so they can live comfortably in their own countries. In my opinion the only other options are world war, genocide, mass murder or globalization which is a great idea the problem is power corrupts and it would be near impossible for me to trust man to run a fair planet free of corruption and patronage.

I vote to elect leaders to do the best for America with the money we pay them and contribute to the betterment of our country and our allies. Outside of my family...everyone is secondary. Outside of my community...every community is secondary and outside of my country...every other country is secondary.

Don't like it...go elsewhere. America for Americans and American values. When that is covered...we can chat about you.

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: UKTruth

If you say so... I think they were normal Americans who wanted change and didn't care about tax returns from a billionaire real estate developer. I know many of them.

Normal American's also voted for other candidates. That's the problem. You think people other than those who think like you are abnormal.

You can revel in your moral superiority all you like, but what we saw tonight from Maddow was car crash TV.

It was a car crash, but I have no idea what you are talking about in regards to moral superiority.

Oh, good grief.

Epic memes are epic......

originally posted by: Martin75

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

originally posted by: Martin75
a reply to: burgerbuddy
Someone left them in David Clay Johnson's mail box and he gifted this to her.

Yeah, they should investigate him for solicitation of the tax returns.

That's a felony charge for him and whoever in the IRS gave them to him.

I noticed on the copy of taxes there is a stamp of "Client Copy". Does that matter? Would both sides have that document or should that one be Trump's copy?

No idea.

No idea if relevant, either.

originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: burgerbuddy
How did they get these returns in the first place?

The claim is he got them in the mail. Now the spin is Trump leaked them to him. But MadCow was gushimg about how this guy was the best investigative reporter on financial matters ever. Funny that...so he's a great investigative reporter that anonymously had Trumps return from 2005 mailed to him? That doesn't take much investigation.

So now the fail has happened the spin is Trump leaked them so nobody can go to jail right? Let's see how hard this backfires....LOL!

Hahahaha!

You can't write this stuff.

Maddow tweets out she will have a bombshell show about these returns. Somewhere within the epsisode she realizes that these documents show absolutely nothing wrong, and so they start the conspiracy theory that Trump himself leaked these documents.

This is unbelievable!