Thank You, Ivanka, Very Very Much

Behind scenes, Ivanka encouraged Trump’s change of tone: sources

sigh of relief from this quarter.

Now, I'll start out by stating clearly that I did not watch the speech. I couldn't do it. It makes me feel nauseated to hear that voice and watch that mouth move. I have long held (and stated numerous times) that Ivanka might be the best person to advise Trump.

It is very clear that he is not equipped to moderate his tone without serious coaching; and that he prefers to surround himself with unsavory types like Kellyanne Conway, Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon, and Mike Pence (all of whom make my skin crawl). But that's just me.

But Ivanka seems indeed to be a calming force for her frenetic father, and even while Sessions goes (rightfully) under the gun for LYING, and the White House continues to deal with all of these little fires that keep igniting all over the damn place, she deserves credit.

So I'm giving it to her.

Dear Ivanka,
I'm heartened that you have his ear and his confidence; that he defers to your judgment and suggestions. Of all his "handlers" you are the only one that doesn't sicken me. I am so very drained and tired and almost numb to all of this that I have come very close to giving up altogether. To stop caring. To stop trying to understand the mindset of those with whom I can find no common ground regardless of how much I try.

Anyone who has followed my participation here at all will see that I tried, I really really tried, to give this "Manager On Duty" a chance. I even made a thread or two about why he might be an ok POTUS. But all of that was tossed after the inauguration debacle with all its faux praise of "God" and blustery talk. Melania seems to be utterly uninvolved (happily for her and Barron!), and perhaps will stay that way.

Ivanka, you seem to have integrity and a real, firm grasp on reality, and are by all evidence a lovely young woman, to be sure. I admire you and at the same time would not walk in your shoes for any amount of money. But I am capable of and happy to be able to say that I respect you. We have to be duly diligent picking our way through this fetid peat bog/swamp of misinformation, hysteria, ignorance and downright horror in order to keep our country from slipping away.

I want to be able to feel confidence in that as an outcome, but day to day it only stays as awful as it has been and the usual suspects continue to be smarmy and incapable of earning any respect at all from people with whom I associate.

Nevertheless, it is appropriate and incumbent upon me as a very concerned Independent Voter to give credit where it is due: you pulled off a feat that was unexpected.

This is my thank you note; this little blip of appreciation that you will likely never ever see. I don't do Twitter, and I don't stalk people on FB, so - this is it.

Thank you, Ivanka, for having the common sense so desperately needed by someone close to your father, and for helping him get his head on straighter than it was. He is all over the place with his speeches, and while I still don't have any faith in him, if he continues to listen to you, Ivanka, I will be grateful.

With humility and love,
BW



P.S. please encourage him to ditch Bannon, Conway, and Miller right away, to fire Sessions, and to never give any power to Pence. Ick.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I would say incorrect

The speech was written for him and he had time to rehearse it, practice it and be trained on its delivery, and Ivanka was not doing the training.

Very different to his from the heart / off the cuff conferences / speeches, this time he was actually using a teleprompter.

Can't give Ivanka the credit for that sorry, more like the powerful people / handlers behind the scenes

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I gave you a star and a flag because you are relieved. I am honestly glad to hear that. We need more people to feel better about what is happening and feeling more positive about the future.

Did you read the transcript of the address by Trump?
I will link it for you so that you can read it if you wish, maybe it will give you more reasons to feel less apprehensive about what is happening. whitehouse.gov
Even Van Jones praised his speech (of course he is taking heat for that) Huffington Post

Look for the silver lining!

a reply to: corblimeyguvnor

no. he wrote it himself with input from the others.
according to the article I linked.

"He had a lot of voices around him giving him ideas and suggestions that he incorporated, but he really set out to achieve that optimistic tone and that was something she was supportive of. She encouraged him to do that," one official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"She had a role," said another. "She helped set the tone."

Ivanka Trump also persuaded her father to speak favorably about affordable child care and paid family leave, policies she has long backed and which could draw support from Democrats in Congress, said another official with some knowledge of how the speech evolved.

"Her fingerprints are visible on the tone, but especially on those parts of it like maternity leave that matter to her," the official said.

'REACHING OUT'

Ivanka Trump, 35, the president's older daughter, has emerged as an influential informal adviser for her father, particularly on issues important to women and minorities.

After his election victory last November, she stepped away from her business interests in New York to move to Washington and is frequently seen at her father's events.

A White House official said Trump was the principal author of the speech but had a lot of help in drafting it, including from his daughter.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

If you think he's bad, you should imagine Hillary screeching for over an hour. There's nothing wrong with Kellyann Conway, I love how she's the new Sarah Palin to leftists that claim the right are the ones waging a war on women when we say something negative about them. Anyways, good to know you're a little relieved. Maybe other people will follow suit and people will stop trying to act like his every move is gonna cause WWIII. You should have listened to the speech, it was his best one so far.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

I stand corrected

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

For those who show a strong negative emotional reaction to trump, how much of this will you admit is just personal and nothing to do with his policies?


especially you Buzzy, i have read your very rational posts, pre trump, and have watched you go into an emotional downward spiral since he won the election. All you do is assert this negative feeling you have generated for him like he makes you want to puke. That is clearly an illogical emotional response you have created for yourself. Are you aware of this wall of emotional bias that you have created for yourself?

As Trump sinks further and further into senility and dementia, Ivanka will play a greater and greater role in how the administration conducts business. There are internal struggles for power in the Oval office. One faction leads to tyranny and I'm not a big fan of Jared/Ivanka but it's much better than the alternative !!

She will be the first female president, mark my words.

a reply to: Woodcarver

Why would anyone hate him if they didn't know him?
I hate him but it's for sure because of his policies his behaviour and his history. It's not for nothing.

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

For those who show a strong negative emotional reaction to trump, how much of this will you admit is just personal and nothing to do with his policies?


especially you Buzzy, i have read your very rational posts, pre trump, and have watched you go into an emotional downward spiral since he won the election. All you do is assert this negative feeling you have generated for him like he makes you want to puke. That is clearly an illogical emotional response you have created for yourself. Are you aware of this wall of emotional bias that you have created for yourself?

He does "make me want to puke," yes. I find him to represent everything I think is WRONG with this country (in particular how the rich run things, evade taxes, avoid accountability, and pay their way out of legal infractions). I LOATHE them. His "policies" are problematic for me, especially the way he 'rolls things out' without thinking them through, and at the behest of monstrosities like Bannon.

I never cared for him or about him, but I could see right through what he was doing. Take the immigration situation, for example. I have HUGE problems with that, not only our southern border, but his stupid "seven country ban." Just this afternoon I heard an interview on "The World" (yeah , it's Public Radio International - where smart people go to learn about what's up) about a young Muslim woman who left the administration after only 8 days of Trump. She had been there for five and a half years, and was involved in matters of importance to her. The 'atmosphere' in the White House turned hideous, though, and according to her, many many offices remain empty, and many, many people are left with nothing to do because of the chaotic autocratic bull# that Bannon is directing.

What "policies" did I favor? Well, when he said "no one will go without health care", that was good. But then he repealed the EXISTING system without a replacement. So, scratch that.

I'm VERY CONCERNED with Social Security, Medicaid, Education, and Housing issues. When he talked about making sure no one would fall through the cracks, I was okay with that. But now he's backpedaled on that, too!

The fracas caused by the sudden "ban" of immigrants (yes, it is a MUSLIM BAN), some of whom had gone through ALL of the required vetting and red tape, others of whom are itinerant professionals who act on multiple continents and travel back and forth routinely, and still others whose families are here (or there) REALLY REALLY made me sick.

So -- I saw him pulling all of this crap, and his stupid "wall" that Mexico IS NOT GOING TO PAY FOR and his utter disregard for ANYONE'S quality of life but his own. To top it all off, his choices for cabinet members have been the diametric OPPOSITE of what would have been in lines with my own policies. The Goldman Sachs guys are now in government? Excuse me? Plus his pulling the plug on social safety nets, and his genital-grabbing and trashy behavior, his HORRIBLE treatment of women, his self-applauding style, and his FAILURE to take responsibility for ANYTHING he says or does ----- this DeVos creature who has NEVER been an educator, OR in a public school? Really?

A man who has spent his career suing the EPA now being in charge of it? How can ANYONE think these are good fits for jobs? They are all as completely inappropriate for those jobs as Trump is for POTUS.

yeah, he is revolting in every way. Every. Single. Way. I can not fathom how ANYONE can be a "tea partier", or an "alt-right", and the amount of respect and drivel I see on this site every day spewing absolute TRIPE all over the place and doing this insipid "fake news" crap is awful.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

So -- I saw him pulling all of this crap, and his stupid "wall" that Mexico IS NOT GOING TO PAY FOR and his utter disregard for ANYONE'S quality of life but his own. To top it all off, his choices for cabinet members have been the diametric OPPOSITE of what would have been in lines with my own policies. The Goldman Sachs guys are now in government? Excuse me? Plus his pulling the plug on social safety nets, and his genital-grabbing and trashy behavior, his HORRIBLE treatment of women, his self-applauding style, and his FAILURE to take responsibility for ANYTHING he says or does ----- this DeVos creature who has NEVER been an educator, OR in a public school? Really? A man who has spent his career suing the EPA now being in charge of it? How can ANYONE think these are good fits for jobs? They are all as completely inappropriate for those jobs as Trump is for POTUS. yeah, he is revolting in every way. Every. Single. Way. I can not fathom how ANYONE can be a "tea partier", or an "alt-right", and the amount of respect and drivel I see on this site every day spewing absolute TRIPE all over the place and doing this insipid "fake news" crap is awful.

you like big government the end.

Are you new here?
Oh no muh Goldman sachs. Just now Getting in government? LOLOLOLOLOL You made me spit out my drink.You are too funny.

a reply to: jellyrev

I like social safety nets and education and health care. I like Democratic Socialism. The government is supposed to take care of us citizens.
When men like Mnuchin (the guy personally responsible for many many Americans losing their homes AND the "Great Recession") I am thunderstruck.


And yes, I hold grudges. I am highly principled and disgusted by hoarders and liars. How about you?
Loosy goosy principles, and fine with the drama of lying liars and the lies they lie?

Shouldn't you be criticizing Trump on how he didn't write the speech?
Not sure how she had any influence on this.

Funny because I consider Ivanka a true champion of women's rights across the globe and not just in the west like most liberals. This largely goes ignored by the left. Now is a perfect opportunity to use the leverage she has on dear old dad to get some balls rolling...

Aw screw it lets just all wear p****es on our heads!

a reply to: JAY1980

sigh. He DID write the speech.
We've already covered that. Please go read the article.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Sessions goes (rightfully) under the gun for LYING

Seeing you fall for fake news is sad and yet funny too.



I don't know where you usually post, but you are lobbing plenty of softballs that posters on here would love to hit out of the park.

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

For those who show a strong negative emotional reaction to trump, how much of this will you admit is just personal and nothing to do with his policies?


especially you Buzzy, i have read your very rational posts, pre trump, and have watched you go into an emotional downward spiral since he won the election. All you do is assert this negative feeling you have generated for him like he makes you want to puke. That is clearly an illogical emotional response you have created for yourself. Are you aware of this wall of emotional bias that you have created for yourself?

I'll agree with this.

I knew I had issues with Obama, so I didn't watch him and read the transcripts instead. It helped me get past that, so I really understand how a person's tone can provoke you.

If you get that provoked by hearing or seeing, just read the transcript and digest what's being said.