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originally posted by: alexpmi
Trump in yesterdays press conference said, the best he could do would be to just blow it out of the water and that the whole of America would probably cheer for him if he did.
Is there anybody here that really thinks this way ? Just curious
Agreement Between the Government of The United States of America and the Government of The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics on the Prevention of Incidents On and Over the High Seas
not simulating attacks at, launching objects toward, or illuminating the bridges of the other partys ships; informing vessels when submarines are exercising near them; and requiring aircraft commanders to use the greatest caution and prudence in approaching aircraft and ships of the other party and not permitting simulated attacks against aircraft or ships, performing aerobatics over ships, or dropping hazardous objects near them.
Article IV Commanders of aircraft of the Parties shall use the greatest caution and prudence in approaching aircraft and ships of the other Party operating on and over the high seas, in particular, ships engaged in launching or landing aircraft, and in the interest of mutual safety shall not permit: simulated attacks by the simulated use of weapons against aircraft and ships, or performance of various aerobatics over ships, or dropping various objects near them in such a manner as to be hazardous to ships or to constitute a hazard to navigation. Article VIII This Agreement shall enter into force on the date of its signature and shall remain in force for a period of three years. It will thereafter be renewed without further action by the Parties for successive periods of three years each.
This Agreement may be terminated by either Party upon six months written notice to the other Party.
INCSEA Agreement (1) Reference (a) extends to military ships, non-military ships, and aircraft. U.S. commands should comply strictly with reference (a) in both letter and spirit. Aircraft should maintain a safe distance from Russian ships and aircraft, and especially from ships conducting air operations so as not to present a hazard. Any Naval or air unit assigned a mission requiring maneuvers in close proximity with Russian naval or air units must do so with due regard for the provisions of reference (a) . (2) The actions listed below are prohibited by reference (a) : (a) simulating attacks by aiming guns, missile launchers, torpedo tubes or other weapons in the direction of Russian ships and aircraft;
USS Donald Cook encountered multiple, aggressive flight maneuvers by Russian aircraft that were performed close to the ship, officials said. Details of Encounters On April 11, Donald Cook was conducting deck landing drills with an allied military helicopter when two Russian Su-24 jets made numerous close-range and low-altitude passes at about 3 p.m. local time. One of the passes, which occurred while the allied helicopter was refueling on the destroyer’s deck, was deemed unsafe by the ship’s commanding officer, Eucom officials said, adding that as a safety precaution, flight operations were suspended until the SU-24s left the area. Yesterday, while Donald Cook was operating in international waters in the Baltic Sea, a Russian KA-27 Helix helicopter flew seven circles at low altitude around the ship at about 5 p.m. local time and were deemed unsafe and unprofessional by the ship’s commanding officer, officials said. About 40 minutes following the interaction with the Russian helicopter, two Russian SU-24 jets made 11 close-range and low-altitude passes, they added. The Russian aircraft flew in a simulated attack profile and failed to respond to repeated safety advisories in both English and Russian, officials said. “We have deep concerns about the unsafe and unprofessional Russian flight maneuvers,” Eucom officials said in a statement. “These actions have the potential to unnecessarily escalate tensions between countries, and could result in a miscalculation or accident that could cause serious injury or death.”
originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: Riffrafter
I promise there's been a sub following this ship for the last couple of hundred miles.
La Palma is currently the most volcanically active island in the Canary Islands Archipelago. It is likely that several eruptions would be required before failure would occur on Cumbre Vieja. However, the western half of the volcano has an approximate volume of 500 cubic kilometres (120 cu mi) and an estimated mass of 1.5 trillion metric tons (1.7×1012 short tons). If it were to catastrophically slide into the ocean, it could generate a wave with an initial height of about 1,000 metres (3,300 ft) at the island, and a likely height of around 50 metres (164 ft) at the Caribbean and the Eastern North American seaboard when it runs ashore eight or more hours later. Tens of millions of lives could be lost in the cities and/or towns of St. John's, Halifax, Boston, New York, Baltimore, Washington, D.C., Miami, Havana and the rest of the Eastern Coasts of the United States and Canada, as well many other cities on the Atlantic coast in Europe, South America and Africa. The likelihood of this happening is a matter of vigorous debate.
The last eruption on the Cumbre Vieja occurred in 1971 at the Teneguia vent at the southern end of the sub-aerial section without any movement. The section affected by the 1949 eruption is currently stationary and does not appear to have moved since the initial rupture.
Geologists and volcanologists are in sharp disagreement about whether an eruption on the Cumbre Vieja would cause a single large gravitational landslide or a series of smaller landslides, or whether a slide is likely at all. There are also questions about the dynamics. Day and Ward have admitted that their original analysis of the danger was based on several worst case assumptions.
originally posted by: SoulSurfer
a reply to: worldstarcountry
I don't trust it, to me it's suspicious, and they shouldnt be near our shores. And I doubt putin is that stupid given all the media hype. Something is up, I just can't shake the feeling. Just keep your eyes open, and observe that ship until it moves away.
(better to stay vigilant than be sorry later.).
originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: SoulSurfer
yea, well, vigilance is somewhat of a given that close to home. He is just pushing buttons, kind of the way thousands of troops are holding live fire drills and training right across the border from Russia by NATO. Tit for tat, with two jokers pointing fingers at each others faces screaming in unison "im not touching you! Im not touching you! Im not touching you!!"
lol, that was a funny visual actually.