What do you want. . .

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Noncents

It's not about "style" of governing, it's about "type" of government.

I'll add a wrinkle...
It's now between 'Government working for the People'...and 'People working for the Government'.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Kali74

I really think this. so many want Trump dead or gone. Hell, people here have said as much.

But it's not Trump so much as it's government under Trump.

I get that people are upset that Hillary didn't get in, but it wasn't about Hillary. It was about the government that Hillary would have created, that people wanted.

It's not just Trump they want dead and gone though.

Those of us who support the type of government the COTUS outlines and will fight them over what they want to force us into?

They also really want us dead and gone too, and you don't have to look too far out there on the 'net to find them saying it.

...So the difference isn't about 'Style' or 'Type' of government...it's about 'Concept' of government.

In other words:
“Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.” ― John F. Kennedy

a reply to: ketsuko

I don't recall things ever being this divisive.

a reply to: IAMTAT

You didn't build that.

Just look at the attacks on the 1st Amendment, the calls for Electoral College to be eliminated.

I wouldn't recognize their constitution.

I want Teddy Roosevelt

I think what they want is for everyone to understand how they feel.

They want Trump dead because he threatens everything they've come to know and rely on. With him as president they won't be able to get as much as they have in the past.

Idk. Just my thoughts..

Late to the show.

I am a Constitutionalist. I want an amendment to the Constitution that abolishes the Electoral College in favor of the the popular vote. I have wanted this for more than two decades.

I also want people who call for the violent removal of the President to realize that they are bucking the U.S. Constitution, and that is a document whose sanctity I hold dear.

I wasn't thrilled when President Obama was elected, but I was hopeful; I really thought that was Hillary's time. I chose to be hopeful, and Obama did some good things, but also did some things which I thought were very adverse to the U.S. economy.

So. I choose, once again, to be hopeful. We'll see.

originally posted by: argentus
Late to the show.

I am a Constitutionalist. I want an amendment to the Constitution . . .

That is how things are done.

Death to political figures, violence, property damage. . . is not the way to make changes within our system.

But my contention is that there are those that desire to change the system through any means necessary.

a reply to: DBCowboy

From the rhetoric I've seen from friends in the San Francisco bay area, if they got rid of Trump, their next step would be getting rid of conservatives and white males

a reply to: AnonymousMoose

I don't think that too many on the left would be upset with that "final solution".

What do you want. .

I want to live in a state that doesn't let terrorist bomb makers enter the country and settle them 2 hours from me.

If I can't have that.

I wan't a full auto machine gun.

And if I can't have that.

I want some microwavable mac n cheese.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: DBCowboy

The Constitution doesn't allow things... can you point directly to any wording in the Constitution that would prevent free college and single payer healthcare?

Right K

Education should be like Walmart, and healthcare should be ran by a super monopoly.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: DBCowboy

if it did, it would have been done.

Why would it have been done already? It's counter productive to the goals of the 'elite'.

Socialism is counter productive to freedom.

Socialism is the commodification of oneself.

A person exists to service the majority's materialistic wants.

a reply to: DBCowboy

The guy was elected and everyone has lost their damned minds wanting him gone. Why?

Does the reaction actually confuse you? Or are you just having buyers remorse and feel the need to rationalize your choice?

I want to ask you a serious question. Do you ever read anything outside of your comfort zone? I don't want to assume. If you've decided that all media is fake news, and that you can't find the answer to your questions by reading around - then there's nothing anyone can say in this thread that will help you to understand what's happening in this country right now

I imagine for some it's just easier to write it all off as madness - snowflakes and sour grapes. Sound about right?

You like Trump - he's your guy? Then party on dude - we'll just have to see how this goes

I'll leave you with this: I just spent (along with many, many other people) 8 years listening to the different factions of the right bellyache, whine and hissy fit themselves into angry balls of nonsensical opposition, hatred and loathing over Obama

Not once, not even once - could I claim that I didn't understand why. Ignorance of opposing points of view is something I don't understand

a reply to: DBCowboy


These kids have been told that all white males and white people in general are evil and the pariah of our society, and they just cant handle that a white heterosexual male is now the leader of our country, its making them blow a gasket. They don't know what they want, they only know what they DONT want, and that's a white male president. There, I said it. The bitter irony is that they label Trump voters racists, and yet the foundation of their angst over a Trump presidency is based mainly on RACE. Funny, when Obama was elected TWICE, all those supposed "racists" didn't go off the rails like this. Who are the real racists?

Every once in a while, typically due to the insanity of the left I find myself coming up with an idea and then deciding that I will hold it as fact...just for the Hell of it.

There were times during Obama's reign that the right surely did things for the sole purpose of keeping Obama from doing something that would be viewed by history as positive. So...here is what I think.

The reason everyone on the left, from the BLM in the street, to the protestor assaulting people and burning buildings, to the obstructionist politician to the judges that try to make law instead of execute law...is so insane right now is simple. They know for a fact, that if they leave President Trump alone to run the country, he will fix all the problems, correct the economy, there may be a declaration of world peace, the discovery of a cure for cancer and everything thing else will become so perfect, that no human being will have to do without.

THAT is why they are going nuclear to stop Trump everywhere they can...they don't want him to succeed in fixing everything. They simply won't allow a President from the right to solve all the world's problems...only they are allowed to do that. But just never have.

So there you go. Trump can fix everything...the left will stop him.

originally posted by: openminded2011
a reply to: DBCowboy


These kids have been told that all white males are evil and the pariah of our society, and they just cant handle that a white heterosexual male is now the leader of our country, its making them blow a gasket. They don't know what they want, they only know what they DONT want, and that's a white male president. There, I said it.

Well summarized. They are racists and sexists. If you wanted, you could probably add references to God and not killing babies, etc. and expand what these people are. But I'll leave that for others to do.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Yes. Your contention is that there are those who will espouse making changes via any and all means necessary. I know several of those folk. Many of them are lifelong friends, who currently believe that I'm an evil person, since I promote the lawful -- not violent -- removal of a President.

I am in shock. People I have known and loved all my life think I'm a monster because I won't join them in wanting the removal of an elected President at ANY cost.

I am an island.