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Kellyanne Conway Invents Alternative-Fact Massacre To Justify Policy.

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posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 07:59 PM
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posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 08:09 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan



No hate, that's just how I see her. As I also said in my comment, she's very competent. I credit her 100% with Trump winning his campaign. That said, she tells the truth less than Trump himself does, which is a pretty hard bar to clear. She's 100% a minister of propaganda.


Exactly! As I've said, give the devil her due.

Decades ago in school. We had to learn to be able to take both sides in a debate. Conway is a natural for it. For example,
Here’s How Trump’s New Campaign Manager Attacked Him As A Cable News Pundit

Sample

"Trump 'Says He's For The Little Guy But He's Actually Built A Lot Of His Businesses On The Backs Of The Little Guy.' "

"Trump Victims Include 'Victims Of Trump University, Victims Of Trump In Atlantic City.'

"Condemned Trump For 'Hurl[ing] Personal Insults' And Using 'Vulgar' Language That Was 'Unfortunate For Children.'

"Trump's 'False' Accusations About The Cruz Campaign Show 'The Danger Of Just Saying Things That Aren't True.'

" 'I Would Like To See' Trump’s Tax Returns 'Be Transparent.' "


Conway ran billionaire Robert Mercer's super PAC for Ted Cruz, until the Mercer family decided to put their money behind Trump and took Conway over to work on the Trump campaign along with Bannon.


And personally,

in September, Conway maxed out her donations to Ted Cruz, donating $5,400 to Cruz for President. Records indicate that Conway’s husband, George Conway, a lawyer, also maxed out his legally allowable donations to Cruz around the same period. According to filings to date, Conway has not donated any money to Donald Trump or his super PAC.

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She'll say anything she's paid to say. That's was her job with Cruz's PAC, that was her job with the Trump campaign, and now that is her job with the Trump administration.

She knows exactly how to use words for their effect.
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posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 08:20 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: diggindirt
Muslim nations should take care of Muslim refugees. Period. It is part of their religion and their religion is part of their governmental system. That is not the case in the US. Our laws are not based on a holy book but on a written Constitution that applies only to US citizens.


Who should take care of US citizens if/when some ideological disaster happens to us and the streets become a war zone? Personally, I would like to think I could go anywhere I choose if I think my values line up or the quality of life is what I would like to have. The same works in reverse, if I want the freedom to go elsewhere, I should be willing to accept others wanting the same when they wish to come here.


That would be fine if we lived in a Utopia with the unicorns vomiting rainbows. But we're in the real world and have taken steps to be sure that our nation doesn't descend into a battlefield, much as some Progressives and Authoritarians seem to be trying to create just that situation.
I am perfectly happy to have people here who wish to assimilate into our culture and become contributors. Muslims have shown us quite clearly that it is not their desire to become part of western civilization so they need to stay where they can practice wife beating and beheading people for being gay or speaking against their holy men. Why should they have to travel thousands of miles to find sanctuary when they should be able to go next door to the wealth of many, many Muslim nations?



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 09:00 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyElohim

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: tabularosa
Is there really a difference in using an alt-fact incident to justify policy and using a false flag incident to do the same? It's all just forms of deception, though it's far more moronic or brazen to make up something that did not exist at all. Naomi Wolf pointed out nearly a decade ago how America is sliding into a state of fascism, that the parallels to Nazi Germany are evident. Trump is but one more cog in the wheel. Clearly, America is heading in the wrong direction if it wants to lead the world as a republic, a bastion of freedom and democracy...

Naomi Wolf Points

I disagree because Trump has stopped the marxism attempt by the left to bring us into the NWO. How can you miss that and be taken for real I don't know?


It's amusing to me that far-right conspiracy "theorists" are so obsessed with the notion of the invented crisis as a mechanism to do something radical and unacceptable. Do you see the irony in the fact that you're using crackpot conspiracy theory to justify an actual erosion of freedom in the United States? FFS.


Maybe if i was a left wing conspiracy person (that is who would be sharing the rights conspiracy IMHO), but since I just go with the facts wherever they lead me, neither is so,. Now what is your new theory as I am the middle always been in the middle? I would defend the right or the left when they are correct and honestly trying to do what most agree is normal and right (those of us in the middle being the most).
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posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 09:05 PM
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originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: Justoneman
I disagree because Trump has stopped the marxism attempt by the left to bring us into the NWO.


Except Trump is part of the NWO.....


Now I don't know on that one. You maybe right.. BUT he is certainly not proven to be like so many others are proven to be like Pelosi and friends. Plus Hillary was sure one of those others. I had a choice between proven criminal racket member or one that might be. I have to go away from the proven one every time. THAT may have been the angle all the time by the NWO to give us no choices but Trump or Hillary. WIN win for them if your theory is right Hellobruce.



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 09:46 PM
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originally posted by: diggindirt
That would be fine if we lived in a Utopia with the unicorns vomiting rainbows. But we're in the real world and have taken steps to be sure that our nation doesn't descend into a battlefield, much as some Progressives and Authoritarians seem to be trying to create just that situation.


Really? In the last 4 years we've had 3 separate instances where armed militia groups nearly started shooting at the feds. One of these days a powder keg is going to turn into the next Waco and at that point all bets are off.



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: gottaknow
a reply to: Byrd

Her looks? She looks like a walking corpse! That face is terrifying to behold. I suspect it will go through a lot of changes before long.

I actually feel a little sorry for her... the photos I've seen of her may just be taken in a bad light but the woman looks stressed ...and somewhat anorexic.



Honestly....she looks like a woman who agreed to trade herself for money and fame. ..like a middle age porn star unhappy with what they gave to get where they are. Is that to harsh?
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posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 10:25 PM
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a reply to: Painterz

This is classic Fake News! LOL! I never thought I;d see ATS fall for Fake News, but I've been corrected. Conway simply had a slip of the tongue, which she admitted later the same day. This is BS Fake News.

Next.



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 10:27 PM
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originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: gottaknow
a reply to: Byrd

Her looks? She looks like a walking corpse! That face is terrifying to behold. I suspect it will go through a lot of changes before long.

I actually feel a little sorry for her... the photos I've seen of her may just be taken in a bad light but the woman looks stressed ...and somewhat anorexic.



She's actually in very good shape for her age and 10X more intelligent than 90% of the dumbkoff MSM Talking Heads who interview her on TV.

Honestly....she looks like a woman who agreed to trade herself for money and fame. ..like a middle age porn star unhappy with what they gave to get where they are. Is that to harsh?



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 10:30 PM
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There are over 20 Jihadist terror training camps right here in the USA. I'd worry about those if I were you. Violent anarchists and BLM terrorists probably need to worry more about the Armed Forces. Patriot groups are not an issue, Islam is however.



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: jimbo999

Plenty of smart porn stars.. it's a moral choice



posted on Feb, 4 2017 @ 11:23 PM
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originally posted by: jimbo999
There are over 20 Jihadist terror training camps right here in the USA. I'd worry about those if I were you. Violent anarchists and BLM terrorists probably need to worry more about the Armed Forces. Patriot groups are not an issue, Islam is however.


Afraid to ask what links constitute your news diet.



posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 01:31 AM
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a reply to: DAVID64

Why indeed bring a child to the USA for healthcare? How many times have liberals belittled our healthcare system? I would think a liberal would want the treatment to take place in the model Cuban healthcare system?

At least we now have a president that wants to do something about terrorism.

Not like Obama. Remember the clock boy Obama invited to the White House. The boy's father who has ties to known terrorists, took his son to the Middle East to meet terrorists, and then Obama gladly meets them at the White House for publicity.




www.thegatewaypundit.com...

Ahmed the Clock Boy is set to meet President Obama at the White House, but he recently met another president. Omar Hassan al-Bashir, the president of Sudan is accused of genocide.

However, Bashir is no ordinary world leader. He has an outstanding arrest warrant from the International Criminal Court, for example, for allegedly orchestrating genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes in Darfur.




The real question and danger of Islam....
Why Islam is a threat to the constitution....



the spectator.co.uk
blogs.spectator.co.uk...

So this is the question: can Islam move away from its theocratic tendency?


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posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 02:36 AM
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originally posted by: butcherguy
Interesting.
Kellyanne misspeaks and she is inventing a new scheme.

Obama says we have 57 states and he is a Constitutional scholar.

Weird how the press plays things.


58 states. According to obama he visited 57 states...... and he still had one more to go.


Now imagine how many of his supporters are going through life believing we have 58 states.



And here. He has been recorded lying about obama care for no less then 36 times. And those are just the moments that were caught on camera:



^That is what flat out lying truly looks like. ^That was not a honest mistake and as far as the 58 states...well that has got to be the dumbest and most ignorant thing we ever seen a president claim. Even Bush did not manage to be that ignorant on basic facts like that.


For Kelly-ann to mix up

"Bowling Green massacre"
And
"Bowling Green terrorist"

Is a far cry from that. All you have to do is think about that minor difference in the name and how related both those stories are in their content. Remembering both those stories one can easily mix them up in both name and content

You all here acting like you are so impeccable and Virtues. Hypocrite and dishonest, Its just hilarious to see annee,one of our biggest boolshiat artists attempting so hard to call this a lie instead of a slip up which this very clearly was.



posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 04:02 AM
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So, she said massacre instead of terrorist. She was not promoting alternative facts.

Fact is that there were terrorists arrested from Bowling Green.


Fact is, there are a lot of people and supporters who will only hear "massacre at Bowling Green" and "terrorists," regardless of what was "meant." Sadly, they will believe at face value and without thought that there really was a massacre at Bowling Green, and they will not even look further into it, just as so many other things. That is the problem.

She flat out made # up.


Now, alternative facts... how Obama saying he had visited 57 states during his campaign. That is scary. He was our leader for 8 years and he said there are 57 states before he was even elected. I guess his was a slip up but hers is not, right?


First, what does Obama have to do with this??? Answer: Nothing. Stop deflecting.

Second, if that scenario were reversed (and it wasn't a democrat or Obama), would you still make as much fuss, would you call it out, or would you simply make excuses like you accuse the democrats of doing?



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posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 06:39 AM
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a reply to: acackohfcc

Pelosi is also 26 years older than conway. Who does look pretty decent for 50 anyways. Look up pictures of pelosi from 1991. She looks much better lol



posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 07:20 AM
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He meant to say 47 or 48 states. Being extremely tired and talking to people for days on end I could see that happening. I could see the same for Kelly, but saying a massacre was caused by a porous Obama vetting process, actually serves a purpose. As opposed to mixing up 40 and 50.

You can still keep your doctor and many do, especially people with pre existing conditions. It's a matter of which insurance provider you have/ pick and what network and policies that provider chooses. The biggest thing stopping people from keeping their plans is the insurance companies not changing those plans to meet the higher standards that the ACA requires. Not to mention those that just chose the wrong plan putting them in the wrong network. I really don't see it being a big deal if you were healthy and hardly see the doctor anyways.



posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 10:15 AM
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It's not lying. It's alternative facts. From an alternative universe.



posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: desert

Actually she could use some instruction in that department.
Including keeping Let Me Google that for You bookmarked on her phone.
And strengthening her spine when it comes to saying NO.
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posted on Feb, 5 2017 @ 10:35 AM
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a reply to: Byrd

For her looks? Haggard, tired, malnourished and lacking ownership of any hair grooming tools except her fingers?
I bet her looks is why Melania let him hire her. No threat or temptations.
LOL




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