President Donald J. Trump is Ordering Construction of THE WALL -Another Promise Kept!.

a reply to: BlueAjah

It will stop those who just walk into our country.

An unmanned wall will not stop migrants or smugglers. How hard to you think it is to climb over a 20 foot wall? Grabbling hook, rope....

originally posted by: MrSensible
a reply to: shooterbrody

REFUSING to enforce existing immigration law

I know we all hate facts around here, but Barack Obama deported more immigrants than any other president. So... what?

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Then imagine the real immigration numbers must be staggering if so many were deported but so many were caught and released into the USA.

I don't care if he set a record for deportation when they just come right back over.

Democrats know this to be true or they would have called Obama a xenophobe who was too tough on deportation

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: D8Tee

A physical wall will free up border patrols to monitor for more aggressive entry.
It will stop those who just walk into our country.

They did discuss additional border protection beyond just a physical wall, but it is a start.

I like how Trump said in his speech just now at DHS that the wall will be a help.

I think the more important news he just announced is the 5,000 more border agents and TRIPLING the ICE agents.
Starts at about 1:17:00

No one thing is going to secure the border, but with a barrier AND the staff needed to secure said barrier, it is possible.

It is NOT 'just a wall'.

Love how he said he is going after sanctuary cities too.

MAGA Pres. Trump

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: BlueAjah

It will stop those who just walk into our country.

An unmanned wall will not stop migrants or smugglers. How hard to you think it is to climb over a 20 foot wall? Grabbling hook, rope....

The 5,000 new border agents and tripling of ICE may help defend the wall.

Well depending on it price tag there is a good chance that it could add to another wall that the US has been building for quite some time.

The mammoth wall of debt.

a reply to: BlueAjah

agreed, it`s like he is a real president something we haven`t seen in many decades.

originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: MisterSpock

Pick your battles. No sense staying in a sinking ship ig it comes to that. Remember that America was founded by people who fled tyranny.

I guess I'm just having a hard time picturing a scenario where one of(if not the) greatest countries in the world is so horribly that you need to flee it and the third world #holes are the safe heaven.

Basically, if this country sinks that low, I can only imagine the horror the rest of the world would be in.

Its easier to see when you realize that organization who subscribe to the Seven Hills doctrine are the ones backing the Trump administration and the new GOP.

a reply to: carewemust

HOLD your horses!!
Promise ISN'T kept UNTIL the wall has actually been built AND paid for by Mexico.... Which actually is LAUGHABLE...
The AMERICAN tax dollars that Mr Drumpf will WASTE on that wall, could have and should have been wisely spent on your roads etc (infrastructure)....

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Its easier to see when you realize that organization who subscribe to the Seven Hills doctrine are the ones backing the Trump administration and the new GOP.

Never heard of the Seven Hills Doctrine, what is it?

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: SolAquarius
So what is the price tag on this gonna be?
The wall seems ridiculous just increase funding and manpower to the border patrol give them some drones and the right equipment problem solved.
Besides walls can keep people in as well.

I think we need a thread on the reality of this wall ever being completed.

It probably will be, but I imagine it's just going to be the current wall with a bit more fencing attached. Then they'll call it complete and take credit for building it. It won't be anything near what was originally pitched.

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: carewemust

i dont agree with building the wall because it doesnt go after the real issue nor the right people. which are the american companies giving illegals incentives to come here for jobs.

we should be prosecuting american business with hefty fines that makes it not worth hiring illegals, if we really want to get control of tje issue.

the wall is going to cost a fortune to build and maintain and the canada border proves it not required , as long as the incentive to come illegally is not there.

having said that i applaud him for following through since it was one of his promise.

i cant think of another potus trying to deliver on promises as ferocious as trump. even if i don't agree i applaud him for trying to deliver for those that voted for him.

Why? If your job is so easy to do that an illegal who speaks little to no English can do your job... do you think it really matters? The citizen who instead isn't working wouldn't be bringing in any income anyways.

originally posted by: BobbyRock
a reply to: carewemust

HOLD your horses!!
Promise ISN'T kept UNTIL the wall has actually been built AND paid for by Mexico.... Which actually is LAUGHABLE...
The AMERICAN tax dollars that Mr Drumpf will WASTE on that wall, could have and should have been wisely spent on your roads etc (infrastructure)....

The snowflakes need their safety zone from the massive influx of Mexicans that are coming to steal their jobs.

Build it Mr. Trump, build it! The border patrol agents say we need it, they know far more about the situation than anyone else on the planet, including liberal ATS posters. Build The Wall, increase the # of border patrol agents, increase the # of ICE agents, penalize US companies for hiring illegals, actually enforce the law, then illegal immigration will be mostly solved. I'm not sure why anyone would be against this, unless they want illegals flooding in for their socialist votes? No, that couldn't be...

originally posted by: MisterSpock
If there ever comes a time when a US citizen has to flee to central or south america "for a better life" then I'd say we are screwed either way.

But really, fleeing is un american. I'm sure the libs can show their pc cards and get through the gate, so they will be fine. Personally, I wouldn't "flee" anything.

Why? You would rather stay and die, leaving your family with no one to support them?

originally posted by: WilsonWilson
I don't get the OP comment about God, do you think God only looks after the States?

It is a very popular notion in certain area's of the US, and especially by those on the right that the US is blessed by God, and automatically superior. Look up the concept of American Exceptionalism.

originally posted by: D8Tee
a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Its easier to see when you realize that organization who subscribe to the Seven Hills doctrine are the ones backing the Trump administration and the new GOP.

Never heard of the Seven Hills Doctrine, what is it?

The Seven Hills/Mountains Doctrine is a Dominionist doctrine in many Charismatic and Pentecostal circles which mandates that the "seven mountains" of culture be controlled by Christianity (I call it Churchianity).

The "seven mountains" of culture are:
1)Education
2) Religion
3) Family
4) Business
5) Government/Military
6) Arts/Entertainment
7) Media

People like Jimmy Falwell Jr, Ted Cruz, Rafael Cruz, and Jeff Sessions either overtly believe the Seven Hills Doctrine or they share its sentiment. Its disgusting.

a reply to: Annee

Fairly sure he does.

But if he doesn't, he soon will.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Justso
Sorry-I'll believe it when I see it-is he gonna declare war on Mexico?

Honestly, I don't think he has a real clue what he is doing.

He's just doing.

Except what he is doing is everything he said he would do. That sort of suggests that he knows what he is doing.
I could have sworn I have heard him talk about walls, border security. immigration, getting rid of TPP and NAFTA, energy independence..before he took office.
Just a thought .

originally posted by: SolAquarius
Well depending on it price tag there is a good chance that it could add to another wall that the US has been building for quite some time.

The mammoth wall of debt.

And even conservative Paul Ryan acknowledged that the American Taxpayer will be charged to build the wall.

www.rawstory.com...


and surprise, surprise The US will probably pay Mexico and Mexicans to built the wall.

www.theguardian.com...

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest

originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: MisterSpock

Pick your battles. No sense staying in a sinking ship ig it comes to that. Remember that America was founded by people who fled tyranny.

I guess I'm just having a hard time picturing a scenario where one of(if not the) greatest countries in the world is so horribly that you need to flee it and the third world #holes are the safe heaven.

Basically, if this country sinks that low, I can only imagine the horror the rest of the world would be in.

Its easier to see when you realize that organization who subscribe to the Seven Hills doctrine are the ones backing the Trump administration and the new GOP.

So it's not the Russians? I'm so confused.