Berlin incident Now they suddenly found IDENTIFICATION DOCUMENTS

So, what they are saying is that this guy was a known person of interest, but they didn't think to pull him in before now or to monitor his movements or contacts. Sounds familiar!
In other words, they left him alone to carry out this act, for political reasons. The families of the victims should be sueing the pants off the government over this.

While the politicians sit behind multiple layers of armed security and fortress living quarters, the rest of us are merely soft targets, to be used as expendable statistics to push agendas. Some things never change!

originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: intrptr

Yeah just been on the BBC Radio 2, also said increased powers for German police. Terrible event for the innocent people at the event but some high ups in power will be rubbing their hands together with the opportunity to increase their power over us the common man and woman. Happened here in the UK in exactly the same way and the general public just accepted it

The history of increasing the police state is exactly coincided with the threat from "outside" that is used to promote more surveillance, more repressive measures, directly aimed at exerting more control over a populace. But done in such a way that the people actually clamour for it, for their own 'safety'.

Everything is proceeding according to plan.

a reply to: Britguy

While the politicians sit behind multiple layers of armed security and fortress living quarters, the rest of us are merely soft targets, to be used as expendable statistics to push agendas.

Exactly. You notice in the EU, the little people are always the ones suffering the attacks, never the government sector or rich peoples neighborhoods.

Now we learn that the security officials even had him, he was in custody, ready to be deported. But they "had to let him go"(after a little bit of blackmailing, maybe, a little dose of MK Ultra xD). And then he could go undercover and allegedly attacked the christmas market later.

Really too much coincidences!

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Britguy

While the politicians sit behind multiple layers of armed security and fortress living quarters, the rest of us are merely soft targets, to be used as expendable statistics to push agendas.

Exactly. You notice in the EU, the little people are always the ones suffering the attacks, never the government sector or rich peoples neighborhoods.

Before 9/11 terrorists/freedom fighters(depending on which side you are) attacked those that were their enemies, but exactly since 9/11 nobody of the real criminals has to fear terrorists anymore, because those terrorists attack only innocent people. Just another coincidence...

a reply to: CulturalResilience

The meaningful shortcoming is yours. I do love hearing you ask it over and over. What was the question again?

"Have you now or have you ever had an opinion you confused with the facts?"

Your answer, don't confuse me with the facts.

a reply to: intrptr

Exactly Surveillance gone mad. Too many laws too many cameras, when I was a kid you felt free not living in a Police state like now. Thing is back then here in the UK we had LOADS MORE terrorism, it was like bombs, asasinations on a daily/weekly basis perpetrated by the Irish freedom fighters.

For the Star Wars Fans:
The alleged perpetrator is allegedly from Tataouine(in Star Wars Tatooine), Tunesia...

a reply to: DerBeobachter

As soon as I heard that news this morning I told my friend that it must have been a False Flag .Watch for new news dealing with Tunisia .I think it was Tunisia I heard on the Radio .

originally posted by: DerBeobachter
Now we learn that the security officials even had him, he was in custody, ready to be deported. But they "had to let him go"(after a little bit of blackmailing, maybe, a little dose of MK Ultra xD). And then he could go undercover and allegedly attacked the christmas market later.

Really too much coincidences!

What happened in Turkey, too. They let an 'ex' cop thru all that security after he flashed a badge and then walked all the way into and behind the podium to gun down the russian envoy point blank.

a reply to: Bobaganoosh

Bobaganoosh,

As it happens, this is a great question. In Britain it is not at all uncommon for HGVs (Heavy Goods Vehicles) to be largely unmarked. Perhaps it is because our nation is small, and therefore there is less advertising benefit in having an entire vehicle of that size marked with a company name. In Europe is is a little less common to have an unmarked truck, but not very much less. Again, most transport is inter regional, and so whereas a US truck would be on the road for many, many days to get from one location to another, most truck journeys in Europe are over relatively quickly, so again, the advertisement does not spend as many hours on the road, and therefore is seen by less people. Also, since a truck hauling from, say Sweden to Italy will be driving through regions which speak various languages, rather than one, it is more difficult to create advertising or logos which are easily decipherable across the broad linguistic spectrum of those who will see it.

This means that it is somewhat less common for a truck to carry company markings. Also, you have to consider rentals and so on as well. Containers often change hands, as do trailers and trucks themselves, so they only get sign written when the owner knows that the truck and trailer will be in the companies use for an extended period.

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: DerBeobachter
Now we learn that the security officials even had him, he was in custody, ready to be deported. But they "had to let him go"(after a little bit of blackmailing, maybe, a little dose of MK Ultra xD). And then he could go undercover and allegedly attacked the christmas market later.

Really too much coincidences!

What happened in Turkey, too. They let an 'ex' cop thru all that security after he flashed a badge and then walked all the way into and behind the podium to gun down the russian envoy point blank.

And exact at the same day somebody shot around in a mosque in Zurich, Switzerland. Didn´t hear anything about him being caught yet.

a reply to: TrueBrit

Thanks, that actually makes perfect sense.

LOL
^sorry for that!

But i listened to a live press conference of Ralf Jäger, the interiour minister of north-rhine-westphalia.
Right after that the propaganda channel switched back into it´s studio, where one of the now unable to avoid "terror experts", which were called some months ago "anti-terror-experts", is spreading his wisdom.
He said that Jäger said nothing that could jeopardise the investigations.

After obvisiously the "security" officials gave everything to the press, name, picture etc, so that the perpetrator is warned, since hours.

But good that the "investigations" are not in danger, dear "terror expert"...

originally posted by: CulturalResilience
To play devils advocate, if as has been said, the truck used in the incident was stolen in Poland then the perpetrator may have carried I.D. papers for the purpose of the border crossing into Germany. If this is the case those papers will almost certainly be false and will therefore only provide investigators with forensic evidence at best.

Papers are not really neccesary , Poland and Germany are part of Schengen agreement , if you get checked it would be pure random.

I was in Switserland last year , they are not part of the EU , when crossing the border i noticed one border official probably picking out random vehicles too.

Our continent border security is full of holes.

a reply to: CulturalResilience

2 different questions with 2 different implications. But if you say so.

ANYWAYS This event and background feels like deja vu. WHY is it that every recent perpetrator in recent attacks have been under government surveillance and had even BEEN DETAINED BEFORE. It just seems like a slap in the face that their solution to failing to recognize and stop the attack with all the surveillance they have IS MORE SERVEILLANCE.

Can it get more weird?

It can. Right as we talk about big brother growing, comes this:

EU Court rules IP Act data retention illegal

The Court of Justice of the European Union (CURIA) has ruled that mass collection of electronic communications data, such as that codified in the recently passed Investigatory Powers Act, is against EU law and must not be enforced by member states.
Link

This does not fit the whole big brother scenario, but at least this are very good news!!!!

Edit:

I see the german motivation behind the story. He is a "NaFri", north african. They are public enemy number three, after "IS" and Superputin. Now we learned that he couldn´t be deported, because he had no identification documents, no passport, nothing. And because the german politicians/officials don´t want to lose their face because of the new isolation politics, suddenly anti-migrants/refugee policy.

So they need "good reasons" for their actions, that the people have to believe.
That´s the same thing why that last years NYE events in cologne were fishy from the first second till now!

originally posted by: DerBeobachter

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Britguy

While the politicians sit behind multiple layers of armed security and fortress living quarters, the rest of us are merely soft targets, to be used as expendable statistics to push agendas.

Exactly. You notice in the EU, the little people are always the ones suffering the attacks, never the government sector or rich peoples neighborhoods.

Before 9/11 terrorists/freedom fighters(depending on which side you are) attacked those that were their enemies, but exactly since 9/11 nobody of the real criminals has to fear terrorists anymore, because those terrorists attack only innocent people. Just another coincidence...

Not so.

In 1974 I.R.A. terrorists blew up 2 pubs in Birmingham. killing 21 and injuring 182 innocent civilians.

Those pubs where not used by either military or political personnel .

Killing innocent people has been going on for a long time before 9/11

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: DerBeobachter

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: Britguy

While the politicians sit behind multiple layers of armed security and fortress living quarters, the rest of us are merely soft targets, to be used as expendable statistics to push agendas.

Exactly. You notice in the EU, the little people are always the ones suffering the attacks, never the government sector or rich peoples neighborhoods.

Before 9/11 terrorists/freedom fighters(depending on which side you are) attacked those that were their enemies, but exactly since 9/11 nobody of the real criminals has to fear terrorists anymore, because those terrorists attack only innocent people. Just another coincidence...

Not so.

In 1974 I.R.A. terrorists blew up 2 pubs in Birmingham. killing 21 and injuring 182 innocent civilians.

Those pubs where not used by either military or political personnel .

Killing innocent people has been going on for a long time before 9/11

But after 9/11 it became the "new normal", and never ever any of the real criminals was attacked anymore,. Like the terrorists(?)/freedom fighters(?) did it in the 1970´s in germany, RAF, for example. They took the people that were, from their view, to blame for any evil, but not civilians as targets.

a reply to: DerBeobachter

I read the report on skynews and was like 'duh.. it's not his real passport'.

Anyone who commits a crime and leaves their ID papers behind must be a total nasswit.