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Aliens are Fallen Angels !

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posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 08:58 AM
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alot of what some of you are talkin about reminds me of this guys website

www.stuartwilde.com...

check out some of them. I believe he claims that aliens are angels of the devil. WHo knows if its true but its interesting to read. I believe he calls it the 'ghoul wars'. his explanation of UFO craft is pretty wild.
www.stuartwilde.com...
www.stuartwilde.com...




posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:05 PM
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Ya weather you guys agree or not, it's still a different perspective on it, and pretty interesting. Just incase some crazy stuff happens in the next7 years leading up to 2012.. dont let your guard down



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by enrage
alot of what some of you are talkin about reminds me of this guys website

www.stuartwilde.com...

check out some of them. I believe he claims that aliens are angels of the devil. WHo knows if its true but its interesting to read. I believe he calls it the 'ghoul wars'. his explanation of UFO craft is pretty wild.
www.stuartwilde.com...
www.stuartwilde.com...


Thats some pretty wacko stuff but a little interesting nonetheless. I dont like the part where he talks about mooning a UFO and then it sends some rope with razor blades up his arse though.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 01:35 PM
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I have been visited by " so called aliens " when I was 5. Never again. I can tell you that they are too children of the same god. Regardless, the message isnt alient, its human nature. Read with an open heart. Listen with your soul.


Regarding faith. It is not for us to have differences over the topic, as the outcome is the same. But, in thinking about scripture, if every bible was to be lost today, I doubt truly that anyone would be able to faithfully reproduce the product exactly....translations and all.

Concentrate not on the document, but more so the message. The message of Christ is a simple one. Love on another as I have loved you. Hold onto that. Throw away the rest. Why use the bible to predict end days when you have no control over them. It is mans folly to believe that God will empower any man with divine force such as his own as man is indeed capable of being corrupted. This is a failsafe of the Lord.

The secret of life lies within a blade of grass, yet it is so cryptic that man will never be able to decipher it. It is this way for a reason to prevent power from falling into the hands of the self righteous and or evil.

It is not for one man to determine the validity of another mans faith as the Lord calls on us at different times of our lives. It is arrogance within ones knowledge that seeks to assert prowess over the lesser read in the ways of biblical text.

So hear my words when I say to you...get yourself a copy of Desiderata. It is the idiots guide to the bible and is considerably more accurate in terms of the underlying meaning to the bible.
The Lords intent flows through my fingers and he is telling us that we are already in end days.
The Churches are in denial as they are too busy interpreting the word of God and not fulfilling it.
I am the 8th messenger. It is not my intent to lead the world, but merely to set an example through my actions of good. The Lord has seen that there is so much deceit in the world that having one messenger deliver his word and having a unified world is almost animpossibility. He seeks to have a powerful message through many. If one merely looks, the message is withing all of us. The multifaceted translations of various scriptures and their meanings are equal to gambling and the outcome has been unpredictable with wars being waged and peoples being oppressed becasue of religious pride. The intent of the bible in Gods love for all of us is consistent, regardless of faith, and regardless of translation. Fear not the messenger...but rather...find the message...for I have said to you in history, Look and you shall see, seek and you shall find, and true wisdom is self perpetuating with the secrets of the universe being your bounty as long as your heart is true.

God is Love. God is within all of us if we merely look without bias. God is Love. God is light...which is equal to the sum of all colors. Conversely, black is the absence of color, equating to not god like. God did not create Evil. He has no method for teaching evil or creating what we call the devil. Evil creates itself as a lesser form of a being of light but does not exist as an entity just as black does not exist as a color. Even the evil can correct, just as a living being on earth serves us proof that life forms improve while inanimate objects deteriorate. But do not let the evil disrupt the workings of God. When one turns the other cheek, do so sensibly. Walk in the light and you shall live.... any less, and you are showing bias and a reservation to live in truth and the way of the Lord. You are all gods’ children. All around you are clues both in what you call Mother Nature as well as scripture yet you still do not learn. The lips are moving but the actions are waning. You act like lawyers when it comes to your faith and your concerns reside in verifying the source of inspiration rather then validating the message itself with your faith. If your heart is true, the message will be clear. Desiderata was written by a man named Max Ehrmann....God eboncs for maximum man. The document was divinely inspired. Man fails to see simple truths and yet they are all around him. There many documents that contain nuggets of truth everywhere if one just looks. There are books that speak of what’s in a name. Take these for example….Michael Angelo.....My Angel....Leonardo Davinci....Divine. Jesus....Just Us. He is within all of you. Look around you, put down your religious biases and believe that the lord has sent many messengers amongst you already and they have gone by as a ripple in the sea because you could not verify their credibility. Verify not, and listen with your heart for the message of god will continue to come to youlike swallows of Capistrano. In the world today, there are 8 messengers that are capable of delivering a clear message. 8 is numerically symbolic for infinity. The combined 8 deliver a unified message of the secret to eternal life. The secret lies within everyone if they just look. The 8 shall never meet as for many will wonder why the Lord has chosen such a means to deliver his message. However, the number of messengers is not limited to eight, but infinity. If we live in love, there is no reason for any type of messenger for Gods intent will have permeated each and every one of us. But this is not the case at present, but rather, this message is a warning...,not for the end of mankind, but merely a wakeup call to conditions and situations that are occurring on the planet that will result in great carnage and disaster. If man does not wake up and begin to act unified, then mankind will perish....without a single shot being fired or any type of nuclear based war. Corruption, desceipt, and oppression are still in great strength on earth. Gods intent is for man to get along. Recent events with the Tsunami will be a starting point. This was not an act of God as God does not live within a paradox. God does not kill his own children.
There will be those that argue this point in the Old Testament. God has never been a vengfull God. His love has always been here. Technology of today should validate that the events of yesteryear with the plagues and such were natural occurrences and nothing more. God serves no man to better one man or tribe against another. Israel was a tribe that was being oppressed, and God inspired Moses to set them free.
It was an early America…Land of the free. Looking for the Promised Land. Israel needs to put down her biases, and understand that it is not about her, but about us. Israel’s current plight in the world is a result of her own oppression against other cultures. I say to you Israel, out down your sword and open your heart. Your arrogance allowed you to kill the first son of God, and even today you still do not listen. Is it any wonder that your land is the size of a pea? The lost tribe of Israel serves as a lesson to the Israelis that you cannot see the forest for the trees. You are lost, caught up in your own self-preservation. You supposedly walk in the way of the lord, yet bare arms against unarmed women and children. The Lord is seeing to it that Palestine becomes a sovereign nation so that your unnecessary invasions in that land come to an end. America is the overseer. She knows the way while it may not seem clear at times. You have oppressed a people to the point where they are considered terrorists for fighting back in the only way they can. Those days are in remission. Any Muslim who reads or hears this know that my heart is in the right spot. The Lord wants peace on earth. Israel is willing to allow Palestinians cross the border in the name of commerce yet not in the name of peace. Dissolve your borders, and embrace as brothers. Have a cup of tea together and realize the senseless bloodshed that has been perpetrated on both of Gods peoples. Set a precedent that peace can happen anywhere, even when the pain is deep history. Its time we act like true people of God…be it Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, or Christian. God knows no faith.

America is God torchbearer at present. She is a guiding light using her power to empower others that have a lesser voice. Americas power is in the coalition of the many and she has bestowed that motto upon herself with " United we Stand ". Yes its true. God sheds his grace on thee and all of the world for that matter...but America has the greatest chance for the greatest good and that is why I call on thee.
Doubt not the messenger....but hear the message for the intent is noble. Americas blood and all who stand by her is not in vain. Her cause is for freedom while it may not always seem clear. The people of Iraq need to resolve their differences. If Amercia was removed from the picture there, bloodshed would still be the order of the day. It is the struggle of power you are witnessing. To ensure the power of the people, it was gods will that those 35000 troops were brought in for elections. It was the right thing to do, even when the path may be wrought with danger. Freedom will prevail. One day Iraq will realize that the United States and her allies made the right choice.

When one wonders about the validity of Gods message, not many of you hearing this would believe your neighbor if he or she told you that Jesus was in their living room. I think we all would agree that it would be time for a mental health specialist. But ask yourself this....is the message wrong? Is it wrong to love one another? Should we act globally in terms of the worlds problems?
Does it matter who is right or wrong in the ends days....for they will not be like anything that man can imagine. Abandon your bibles and act as the loving Christians that you say you are. After all...you know they are Christians by their love....Show me the love. The words of the bible are tiresome and fraught with inaccuracy and innuendo that some take to further their end, both institutional and personal. Most institutions ask for a 10% tithe yet I can assure you that 10% of most churches bottom line never makes it to the needy. It is merely self-preservation of the institution. The Church exists for the sake of the church. One merely needs to look at the Catholic church and the jockeying for the position of the highest held to know that is isn’t about gods word. Its about power and control. And for those that wonder, It’s not only the Catholic church, but also many others that are using the word of God to profit. The messengers of God belong to no church as they answer to me in ways that are cryptic even to the messenger themselves. They derive no moneys from any institution less they become corrupted with bias. I can assure you these individuals are well healed and wise in the ways of God and man. Their legacies as individuals shall be a guiding light for those that wish to set an example themselves. The Lords asks you not to follow, but rather to lead. This is the lessons of the cross. Its is not to be observed, but to be taken into action. Leading starts with your actions. The Lord does not ask that you be poor or that you do not attain worldly goods. But merely don’t let it get out of hand. Everywhere in life are examples of Balance. In nature, and in science. If you are making a good profit at your business, then share some of the wealth with your workers. It doesn’t have to be all. In return, you will receive tenfold, loyalty and service. Your products will be better, your customers will be happier, and overall, there will be a better environment. The word of God has proliferated the world.. Its time man stops reading the message and starts living it.

Melvin Charles Mesick

01/06/05






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posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 02:23 PM
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You rock dude!!! Heck yeah!!!



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77
He'd get so many followers who wouldn't even question what these aliens truly were...

Which is exactly why I too like the Fallen Angels theory, when it comes to explaining aliens.




So, no possibility of beings evolving from other planets....in all the vast universes, we are the only life uh?

This is a little OT but, you know that got me thinking. Why, in every theory, in every work of fiction, why are we always the lesser being?
I'm mean come on! Why can't we humans be the superior beings!? Why are aliens never stupid?!? Why have they mastered instealler tavel and we haven't!? Why? WHY??
....anyway....




if all that does come to pass it will happen on December 23, 2012

Please, the Mayans couldn't even see their own fate....I have yet to hear a good reason why should we believe them?
Please don't set yourself up for dissapointment.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 07:20 PM
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Kory,
You do not know who I am, nor do you know what I'm capable of.



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 08:11 PM
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obvious hoax...

do some research...

many people that were abducted ARE christian...

this DIS-proves this ENTIRE story...





posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by they see ALL
obvious hoax...

do some research...

many people that were abducted ARE christian...

this DIS-proves this ENTIRE story...



I'm so glad someone finally said that...I was waiting as my voice on it would mean nothing...after all, I am an "evil, baby killing, Satan worshiping blood drinking demonist"...unless you listen to another poster here who calls me a "tree hugging, bunny loving, sky watching fool". Aaaaaanyway, there have many, many Christians abducted...what a ridiculous claim!



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 08:45 PM
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For example there is one way which modern sceince has just found out....that Christians are born with a CHRISTIAN GENE fulfilling the scripture which says we are in the 'book of life even before we are born. (Revelation 17: 8). If humans have the techno to tell who is Christian via DNA, then im sure that Fallen Angels do too and probably more advanced. Plus the fact that Satan knows who are his and who are not. Here is the Christian gene link;


I don't know if anyone has pointed this out to you or not, but the christian gene link is from an Australian TV comedy show



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by LadyV
I'm so glad someone finally said that...


what can i say???

i guess i am a professional ATSer






posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by they see ALL
obvious hoax...

do some research...

many people that were abducted ARE christian...

this DIS-proves this ENTIRE story...




Of course that christian-gene link was an obvious parody/satire. In the Bible Satan tempted Christ himself, why would any christian be exempt?

But that doesn't invalidate the "Aliens are Fallen Angels" theory...that was posed by people way before this soldier_of_the_lord guy (I was going to use another word but I don't want to be banned
) posted this thread!

[edit on 1/28/2005 by djohnsto77]



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77


But that doesn't invalidate the "Aliens are Fallen Angels" theory

So you don't think there are any beings here other than fallen angels? Why do they need spaceships? Why are there different species being reported? Do you think the government has a deal going on with these "fallen angels"? They also must not be too talented at maneuvering those ships....as we have reports of crashes.....I guess this all means that you do not believe in beings from other places..



posted on Jan, 28 2005 @ 09:07 PM
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But that doesn't invalidate the "Aliens are Fallen Angels" theory...that was posed by people way before this soldier_of_the_lord guy (I was going to use another word but I don't want to be banned ) posted this thread!


I agree it doesn't invalidate the Theory at all, it's actually a good theory,
that is certainly worth looking into further.

It looked like the Christain Gene thing was actually being taken seriously,
by a few posters.


BTW my personal belief is that Aliens are just that Aliens ....nothing to do with Fallen Angels.
I could be wrong though.



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 03:32 AM
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The site just makes the news lighthearted....NOT FALSE. I guess people wont believe the Christian gene finding unless they see it on the place where they learn 'what to think and how to think it'....non other than CNN.

Also more than one of you here claim christians have been abducted...to know if a christian is abducted, you must first know what a TRUE CHRISTIAN is....it is NOT someone who merely goes to church or who was born into a western nation or a Catholic. A Christian is someone who has JESUS CHRIST in their hearts and strives to follow his commandments as set out in the bible. Our Christian faith are prooved by WORKS...James 2:14-26

And Lady...say hi to 'you know who' for me ;>)



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 03:55 AM
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The site just makes the news lighthearted....NOT FALSE.


Okay.....do you have a credible link to the Christian Gene Story.



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by LadyV

Originally posted by djohnsto77


But that doesn't invalidate the "Aliens are Fallen Angels" theory

So you don't think there are any beings here other than fallen angels? Why do they need spaceships? Why are there different species being reported? Do you think the government has a deal going on with these "fallen angels"? They also must not be too talented at maneuvering those ships....as we have reports of crashes.....I guess this all means that you do not believe in beings from other places..


I don't totally discount it, but the fallen angels theory makes sense to me, because of Fermi's paradox the Earth should have been colonized long ago by another species, before humans evolved if such creatures exist. It really doesn't make sense to me that some aliens would be visiting Earth having clandestine meetings with world leaders, etc. -- they'd either leave us alone or take us over. I do see the alien path as one that Satan would take to deceive the world into following him easily though.

[edit on 1/29/2005 by djohnsto77]



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77

Originally posted by LadyV

Originally posted by djohnsto77


But that doesn't invalidate the "Aliens are Fallen Angels" theory

So you don't think there are any beings here other than fallen angels? Why do they need spaceships? Why are there different species being reported? Do you think the government has a deal going on with these "fallen angels"? They also must not be too talented at maneuvering those ships....as we have reports of crashes.....I guess this all means that you do not believe in beings from other places..


I don't totally discount it, but the fallen angels theory makes sense to me, because of Fermi's paradox the Earth should have been colonized long ago by another species, before humans evolved if such creatures exist.
[edit on 1/29/2005 by djohnsto77]


Wow that just hit me with a ton of bricks, can you explain that a little bit better?


[edit on 29-1-2005 by kory]



posted on Jan, 29 2005 @ 05:14 AM
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Originally posted by kory

Originally posted by djohnsto77

Originally posted by LadyV

Originally posted by djohnsto77


But that doesn't invalidate the "Aliens are Fallen Angels" theory

So you don't think there are any beings here other than fallen angels? Why do they need spaceships? Why are there different species being reported? Do you think the government has a deal going on with these "fallen angels"? They also must not be too talented at maneuvering those ships....as we have reports of crashes.....I guess this all means that you do not believe in beings from other places..


I don't totally discount it, but the fallen angels theory makes sense to me, because of Fermi's paradox the Earth should have been colonized long ago by another species, before humans evolved if such creatures exist.
[edit on 1/29/2005 by djohnsto77]


Wow that just hit me with a ton of bricks, can you explain that a little bit better?


[edit on 29-1-2005 by kory]


See here: Fermi's Paradox



posted on Jun, 8 2010 @ 11:07 AM
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I've seen many people, for instance clifford stone who are Christian but also have ( had ) a friendly relationship with aliens.
At one time, these aliens even showed cliffords dead son in heaven ( as he claims ), if this is true, how is it possible aliens are fallen angels?



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