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The Coming War on China

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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: Willtell

China IS an economic rapist.

China is a currency manipulating cheater, (which also hurts the U.S. economy).

China is communist remember?

Didn't you know that Taiwan is actually the Republic revolting portion of communist China?

Why are we even trading with a communist state in the first place?


I would say ask Nixon, but he's dead.
Maybe you can sacrifice some chickens, smear their blood on your body, look in a candle lit mirror and summon Henry Kissinger and ask him.




posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 04:43 PM
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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 04:46 PM
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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: Nickn3

But we offered a different idea so it's warranted.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

A war is completely unrealistic in many many ways.

First off china could not attack the U.S even if they wanted to , they do not have the logistics for this unless they are prepared to launch a nuke (that will never arive).

The U.S does have the logistics but that is going to be very expensive and the chinese have a pretty big ground army to defend it.

This is all just unrealistic doom porn.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 04:54 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

You do know that we have friends in that part of the world, right? And those friends are extremely nervous about Chinese ambitions in the area. None of them can stand up to China, but are trying to defend their own rights in the area, so have asked for help. Even nations that previously had no diplomatic relations with the US have turned to the US for help.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 04:58 PM
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a reply to: Alien Abduct

The USA has a large ecological footprint, not always in a good way. Rape may be a bit harsh....but it's mostly non consensual ( from Nature's perspective )

The USA has done a bit of currency manipulation throughout the 20th and 21st centuries....and this hurts many economies.

The USA is supposed to be a democracy....but there is growing academic concern it is actually an Oligarchy.

Why are you even trading with a communist state in the first place? Probably because they are the only country that is willing to take the crud you peddle...and vice versa.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 05:01 PM
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I think people read too much.

Trump was pretty much correct if you think about it. I'm not American, but the last time I visited everything was made in China. Even my work iPhone is made in China - although designed in California, if that's any consolation.

The US and China are not going to war. The US under Trump may go to worms, or may start to tackle the inequalities of the Sino-US relationship.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 05:49 PM
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ATTENTION!

KNOCK OF THE BICKERING - The topic is not opinions of each other or each others politics.

YOU ARE NOT IN THE MUD PIT!

Do not reply to this message.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 06:35 PM
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Yeah, we can kick off the war as soon as China mass-produces all the hardware for us. We do not have the manufacturing base to accomplish a war with China, unless China makes all the gear for us to use against them.

Be afraid. Lulz.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: GodEmperor
Yeah, we can kick off the war as soon as China mass-produces all the hardware for us. We do not have the manufacturing base to accomplish a war with China, unless China makes all the gear for us to use against them.

Be afraid. Lulz.


Actually..Japan can make hardware better. We dont need China. ALso We dont need a manufacturing base to beat china. to beat china you hem in their forces by AIR and SEA. thats it. Then poison their rice fields with some bio weapon. Done. Then sit back and watch the death toll rise as we shoot down and sink all attempts to leave china.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 07:12 PM
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a reply to: yuppa

Now now, you know that's no longer allowed. We have to take into consideration the enemies feelings and stuff.

Unless a war with China is more profitable, it's not going to happen.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

The friends you speak of have been friends for quite some time, in-fact China was once a friend of the US before WWII and the communist under Mao.

Countries in the same region often have issues to iron out, that doesn’t mean things have to come to war or threatening peoples sphere of influence.

I posted the OP so people could read the information about the US build-up of military forces near Chinas borders so they can make an intelligent judgment on the information themselves

This is a very serious issue in global strategic think tanks such as the Rand corporation and many others. It is not a frivolous topic when you have nuclear weapons at the forefront of this strategy of war on China,


They have actually war plans that they think, although nuclear based in nature--can succeed…if that isn't a serious issue nothing is.



A study by the RAND Corporation – which, since Vietnam, has planned America’s wars – is entitled, War with China: Thinking Through the Unthinkable. Commissioned by the US Army, the authors evoke the cold war when RAND made notorious the catch cry of its chief strategist, Herman Kahn — “thinking the unthinkable”. Kahn’s book, On Thermonuclear War, elaborated a plan for a “winnable” nuclear war against the Soviet Union.Today, his apocalyptic view is shared by those holding real power in the United States: the militarists and neo-conservatives in the executive, the Pentagon, the intelligence and “national security” establishment and Congress.


www.counterpunch.org...



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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

PD-59 was implemented under Jimmy Carter, a democrat.

It probably wouldn't have been good for the democrat image for Hillary to be selected as president.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

I am well aware of that. And in recent years, their concern over China has grown rapidly. I'm also aware that China was once our ally as well. That doesn't mean things don't change.

China has laid claim to huge swaths of area that are outside their EEZ, and in the EEZ of other nations, to the point they have even had gun battles with other nations. They're also claiming an illegal ADIZ and EEZ around their man made islands that have those other nations concerned.

Funny how you talk about the US "threatening people's sphere of influence" when China has been doing that and more for the last 10+ years. Or is it only threatening when the US does it? The US is backing our allies. That means putting forces in their neighborhood. It's kind of hard to back them, if all our forces are in the US, considering it would take a week to get ships there, and longer to build up aircraft. A lot can happen in a week.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 08:15 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

I’m no particular lover of China, I am aware that they aren’t perfect but compared to the US they are since the US is so bad its not hard to be deemed perfect in comparison.

America is into wars all over the world not defending freedom, such as their support for jihadi forces in Syria, but defending at best some economic interest or strategic interest, at worst some naked selfish aggression for their own power hungry imperial designs.

I don’t know of any Iraq war type actions by China. I haven’t seen China into war for the past 20-30 years and more that involved the death of millions of Arabs by the Chinese and thousands of US troops for the sake of what?

China has a right to feel threatened by the US when it circles their land with vast military installations…why?

China hasn’t threatened any countries as far as I know.

They tried and did the same thing to Russia and only have made things worse.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 08:26 PM
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Never mind. No matter what I say, or what evidence I provide, it's all our fault, because we're the most evil nation on earth, and everyone else is pure and good, and only reacting to us.
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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: GodEmperor

Smh, you're wrong.

America's manufacturing base wasn't that great before the onset of the world wars, afterwards during the world war, manufacturing increased a 100 fold. That was from NOTHING.

I'll agree to a point that our manufacturing base is no longer what it was, however the correct term is "hallowed", on other words, the infrastructure is there. We just need bodies and a goal.

No, as an American citizen, I don't fear the chinese in anyway shape or form. Our empire is still in its infancy and will only grow. Trump emboldens me and with his leadership, we will take back the manufacturing base, get some of these lazy, entitled kids into the workforce and renew the mentality of earning your keep through hard work in our society.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

You're wrong.

...china knows exactly what it is doing, it is currency manipulator and its goal is to claim sole global leadership. It won't happen and it never will, any communist nation for that matter. As long as the US is standing and its people ready, china will never reign.

..china has openly threaten its nieghbors. Our bases are there at the request of nations and our ability to project.

One last thing, I make it a point to NEVER capitalize the "c" in china, my personal thing.



posted on Dec, 5 2016 @ 01:17 AM
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Well... it's true. Mexico and China ruin our economy. Don't make sense to send jobs in countries that don't give two #s about anything.

Trump can't speak to Taiwanese Government? Yea..go # yourself China. People fear this lame ass country too that time and time again got viciously slaughtered by Japan. Sorry but if can't take an island you're not taking a continent. I have no idea why we kiss their ass in first place.

We owe China trillions of dollars because we dont care. If I was president id tell them "Yea, about that trillion.. ain't happening" and see what they do. Jack #.

Besides if China don't do something soon they're going to die by ignorance. Smog is so bad times can't go outside for DAYS AT A TIME. Sickness and filth from decades of poor has them under law to wear mask. Their crazy child birth laws caused over population of men and fact that in 30 years that 1.5 billion be around 500,000 from pollution, sickness, and poor population control.

They're big joke.



Just name a few.
Nothing has copyright there.
Back engineering our stuff and sell it 1/3rd cost
Counterfeit pills, counterfeit everything.
edit on 5-12-2016 by Shr00mz because: (no reason given)



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