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The Coming War on China

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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:11 PM
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“The United States,” wrote Amitai Etzioni, professor of international Affairs at George Washington University, “is preparing for a war with China, a momentous decision that so far has failed to receive a thorough review from elected officials, namely the White House and Congress.” This war would begin with a “blinding attack against Chinese anti-access facilities, including land and sea-based missile launchers … satellite and anti-satellite weapons”.




For all the attempts to detect a departure in foreign policy, this is almost certainly the view of Donald Trump, whose abuse of China during the election campaign included that of “rapist” of the American economy. On 2 December, in a direct provocation of China, President-elect Trump spoke to the President of Taiwan, which China considers a renegade province of the mainland. Armed with American missiles, Taiwan is an enduring flashpoint between Washington and Beijing.


During the campaign Trump put China in a class with Mexico when he called them “ economic rapists”

Donald Trump, speaking with a “foreign policy expert,” repeatedly asked “why can’t we use nuclear weapons.”

It may be that Trump provocative statement is just the beginning

Some commentators think that Trump’s “ friendly” turn toward Russia is like the Nazis in WWII making friends with Russia before they attacked Poland( which precipitated the start of WWII) so they wouldn’t have to face a two-front war, is what Trump is doing by making friends with Russia thereby isolating China.

The US is building up it's forces in the Pacific


In 2015, in considerable secrecy, the US staged its biggest single military exercise since the Cold War. This was Talisman Sabre; an armada of ships and long-range bombers rehearsed an “Air-Sea Battle Concept for China” – ASB — blocking sea lanes in the Straits of Malacca and cutting off China’s access to oil, gas and other raw materials from the Middle East and Africa.

It is such a provocation, and the fear of a US Navy blockade, that has seen China feverishly building strategic airstrips on disputed reefs and islets in the Spratly Islands in the South China Sea…


Amazing, we all here are worried about Russia and the ME and what do you know it may all be a fake and the Trump administration is building a virtual WAR cabinet!

..And out of the blue we have this Trump, China mess…

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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:13 PM
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In 2010, Clinton flew to Manila. She demanded that America’s former colony reopen the US military bases closed down in the 1990s following a popular campaign against the violence they generated, especially against Filipino women. She declared China’s claim on the Spratly Islands – which lie more than 7,500 miles from the United States – a threat to US “national security” and to “freedom of navigation”.


Handed millions of dollars in arms and military equipment, the then government of President Benigno Aquino broke off bilateral talks with China and signed a secretive Enhanced Defense Co-operation Agreement with the US. This established five rotating US bases and restored a hated colonial provision that American forces and contractors were immune from Philippine law.

The election of Rodrigo Duterte in April has unnerved Washington. Calling himself a socialist, he declared, “In our relations with the world, the Philippines will pursue an independent foreign policy” and noted that the United States had not apologized for its colonial atrocities. “I will break up with America,” he said, and promised to expel US troops. But the US remains in the Philippines; and joint military exercises continue.



www.counterpunch.org...


The American empire is getting defeated in Syria and they won't like being defeated also in the Pacific...


So we may be in for a lot of trouble in this new administration with its war cabinet types already selected



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:17 PM
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...The ascendancy of the Pentagon in Washington – which Daniel Ellsberg has called a silent coup — is reflected in the record $5 trillion America has spent on aggressive wars since 9/11, according to a study by Brown University. The million dead in Iraq and the flight of 12 million refugees from at least four countries are the consequence.

The Japanese island of Okinawa has 32 military installations, from which Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Afghanistan and Iraq have been attacked by the United States. Today, the principal target is China, with whom Okinawans have close cultural and trade ties.

There are military aircraft constantly in the sky over Okinawa; they sometimes crash into homes and schools. People cannot sleep, teachers cannot teach. Wherever they go in their own country, they are fenced in and told to keep out.




Make America great again?
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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:18 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

You shouldn't believe everything you read. Talisman Sabre has been going on since 2005, and is held every two years. It's always about the same size, and takes place mostly in Australia, with headquarters elements in Honolulu, Denver, and Virginia.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:27 PM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Willtell

You shouldn't believe everything you read. Talisman Sabre has been going on since 2005, and is held every two years. It's always about the same size, and takes place mostly in Australia, with headquarters elements in Honolulu, Denver, and Virginia.


Of course I don’t believe everything I read. One has to put things in context and add them up and one comes up with a consensus view

nationalinterest.org...



While ISIS is the threat that keeps Washington policymakers up at night, it’s the rise of China that has international relations theorists in a panic. Graham Allison argues persuasively that China’s rise portends a classic Thucydides Trap. His research shows that in twelve of the last sixteen cases over the past five hundred years, when a rising power challenged an established one, the result was war. John Mearsheimer, somewhat more bluntly, warns that “China cannot rise peacefully.” It’s an impending great power clash that makes the threat from ISIS look like child’s play.

But China threatens the United States only insofar as America insists on being the dominant power in China’s backyard, a policy that actually contributes very little to U.S. security. If we abandon our strategy of primacy, the risk of a clash will shrink away. If we try to contain China’s rise, on the other hand, these predictions of doom may prove right.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:32 PM
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Uncle Sam just has to cease with its imperial ambitions to rule the world and then maybe the world can have some peace.

America deems itself the leader of the free world, it should try to act like a peace maker for once rather than a massive war monger on the earth spreading weapons of mass destruction and tyranny and oppression around the globe while masking and pretending to be good.



China’s feelings of encirclement are not unwarranted. America’s presence along China’s maritime periphery is highly militarized and provocative, with the U.S. Pacific Fleet conducting countless exercises and training events with dozens of countries in the region. Washington’s massive military presence on the Korean Peninsula, and just across the East China Sea on the southern tip of the Japanese archipelago, are perceived as substantive threats to Chinese security. America’s position as the largest naval presence in the East and South China Seas also stokes fear in China, particularly because roughly 40 percent of Chinese oil imports come by sea and pass through sea-lanes that are subject to interdiction by the United States.
nationalinterest.org...



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:34 PM
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NO S+F

Now that you have nothing else to claw through since the election is over, you resort to Doom-Porn.

No, the US always has exercises, as well as China and Russia.

You are making a big deal about nothing. The call with Taiwan was a greeting and acceptance.

Consider the economy, it wouldn't be in the best interest for war between the US and china, as it would unravel the global economy.

Next.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:36 PM
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China IS an economic rapist.

China is a currency manipulating cheater, (which also hurts the U.S. economy).

China is communist remember?

Didn't you know that Taiwan is actually the Republic revolting portion of communist China?

Why are we even trading with a communist state in the first place?



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:36 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Oh sweet Jesus. War with China really? Sounds like MSM propaganda to me. It's funny that the MSM taints Trumps receiving of a congratulatory call from Taiwan as a "War starter with China" but not the millions of arms and weapons that Obama sold to Taiwan - that was totally cool



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:39 PM
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originally posted by: Arnie123
NO S+F

Now that you have nothing else to claw through since the election is over, you resort to Doom-Porn.

No, the US always has exercises, as well as China and Russia.

You are making a big deal about nothing. The call with Taiwan was a greeting and acceptance.

Consider the economy, it wouldn't be in the best interest for war between the US and china, as it would unravel the global economy.

Next.


I don't know what your cheap insults have to do with the OP

This article is by a mainstream alternative writer NOT DOOM PORN

That’s your position that has little intelligence behind it just your love of Trump

FYI I've been posting similar op's before your beloved Trump since Ive been here


Just because ATS has become a Alt-Right site things have changed.

Thats all right it will pass



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:43 PM
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Why are we even trading with a communist state in the first place?


Because this is the real world, not a Tea Party propaganda comic book?

Ironically, it was a Republican who started our trade with China- Richard Nixon.



posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:46 PM
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Just because ATS has become a Alt-Right site things have changed.


What does believing we are going to war with China or not have to do with weird political titles that people didn't assign to themselves?
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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:46 PM
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I remember a sci-fi serie called Firefly,





A Brief History of the Universe, circa 2507 A.D." In an interview on the site, series creator Joss Whedon first described some of this background to account for the mix of cultures in the Alliance, and the pre-production memo gives further details. This history is implicit in the design of the Alliance flags seen in "The Train Job" and "Bushwhacked," a combination of the present-day flags of the two countries in question.

The culture of Firefly is a fusion of Chinese and American culture because those are the superpowers that "won"

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posted on Dec, 4 2016 @ 03:49 PM
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The only war that will plague the globe for the next decade is the sickness of extremism that has grown and spread across continents. There is now clearly so much poisoned and misguided youth with axes to grind. At some stage the major nations will be forced to convene to plan and address its eradication in a merciless manner. Otherwise it will fester and grow to an extent that makes it impossible to turn around!



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