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Reddit Pizzagate shut down

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posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 08:31 PM
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Well to make our left wing right wing chicken wing broken wing people happy, this person:
twitter.com...
And I have no idea who she is, is claiming that on the 28th, that they will release overwhelming evidence implicating not only the Clinton Soros types but also the Bush CIA brethren. So maybe that might help ease some angst?




posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: bopchon

The fact that I suggest those concerned with child abuse dedicate their efforts and time to helping abused children instead of propagating dubious theories does say a lot about my "character". I'm a pragmatist who is motivated by results and who is deeply concerned with demonstrable fact. I think it was our own Phage who pointed out that accepting a low standard of evidence for a very ambitious claim is less having an open mind and more letting your brain fall out.

#PizzaGate is pretty absurd. You and others like you are conflating #PizzaGate with every other theory of organized child abuse, suggesting by implication that one must analyze and debunk each of them in order to satisfactorily demonstrate that #PizzaGate is unfounded. That's fallacious. If you actually cared, you'd be less concerned with a witch hunt that conveniently demonizes your political rivals and more concerned with helping the myriad victims of child abuse who are quite real.

And no, I did not watch your 1:45 video. Any truth worth pointing out contained therein could be encapsulated in a succinct written argument with sources to support it. Please feel free to provide one.



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 08:43 PM
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a reply to: sad_eyed_lady

I'm one of them but, saying that the proof that it happened at comet ping pong (pizzagate) isn't convincing is not the same as saying it never happens.
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posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 08:51 PM
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a reply to: JohnnyElohim

I don't expect you to watch all of the videos right now. But if your really going to deny what people are talking about you should probably be brought up to date on the subject we are talking about. Pizzagate just happens to be more evidence of global leaders being part of pedosatanism cults.

I don't have the time to explain all the videos but they most definitely all relate to pizza gate and the global Elite that consider themselves above the law.

This is the scandal that gives blatant evidence to everything the conspiracy world has been saying since the beginning of history.

But no don't take the time to educate yourself. Just keep living in denial



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 08:58 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyElohim
a reply to: X88B88

1) I've been here much longer than you have. Welcome aboard. Try not to get lost in your own confirmation bias.

2) If you have a problem with the Snopes analysis, how about you point out what, if anything, is wrong with their sources? You and those like you are engaging in an actual ad hominem argument: that of dismissing the content based purely on what you consider to be aspersions against the speaker (or publisher) that require no evidence or support.

3) Yes, I am well aware of the "Fake News" discussion. Your breathless and baseless analysis of it doesn't change the reality that it's a conversation being had because actual fake news is breeding like Tribbles. There was a satirical Fake News article written about how Trump won the popular vote. To this day there are people pounding their chests in their campaign against the "Hillbots" who point out that she is 1.7 million ahead in the popular vote thus far. That article slipped through the Google News algorithms and appeared as real news. This is happening more and more often. So, actual fake news is circulating and encouraging mouth breathers here and elsewhere to fill the airwaves with their peculiar brand of hateful ignorance. It is a problem.

Simply because you would like something to be true, because it adds excitement to your life or because it confirms your inherent bias (for example, that Democrats are Moloch-worshipping child-abusing anti-Christians), does not make it true.


Seeing as you write quite coherent posts, I find it hard to believe that you're as thick as you've come across here.

Let's clear something up with regards to your source that this is a bogus story, Snopes.com.

There's been no 'official' investigation as of yet. All off the evidence presented thus far has been collected by participants on various sites, most notably Reddit and 4chan. According to you and Snopes, because of the 'lack of hard evidence', this is hereby a desperate attempt by conservative trolls to stir up trouble for the DNC.

So, a few points for you to consider:

1. What would be the point of creating a story to discredit the DNC with a sex trafficking/pedo scandal when: a) Trump has already won the election and is the POTUS elect, b) Trump has also been implicated in participation of...whatever...at Epstein's 'orgy island', and c) the Republicans will already control all 3 branches of the US govt.?

2. Snopes linked in their opinion piece and relied on the same information, emails, Instagram photos and FBI files that those accusing the elite of these acts did, yet Snopes came to a different conclusion. Since information is still coming to light, it's premature for either side to make a definitive claim either way. Yet Snopes did, with insufficient information and invstigation. And you sucked it up hook, line and sinker.

3. Snopes is a guy and his wife sitting around their house searching Google on the surface net for consensus articles that support their agenda and selling clickbait ad space to make their living. That is who/what they are. The fact that they linked the NY Times article as a credible source for this story, after the NY Times has done approximately 5 mins of research on it, makes their position lose further credibility.

Now, one could argue that the people on Reddit are no better than Snopes, as they are also just people with no official affiliation that are doing research from their homes. But based on the dark/deep net resources of a lot of these people, and the fact that they have no financial interest in breaking these revelations (except maybe to troll), I would put my money on them being on to...something. What, exactly, I'm not sure yet.

4. Snopes has been shown historically to not only be flat out wrong in many cases, but to also be quite biased in their 'findings' towards a more liberal or Democrat stance.

You seem to me like an astroturfer on a mission regarding this story; so quick to judge and dismiss with very minimal facts and w/o adressing the evidence presented thus far. Through many years of experience and life, and from what Wikileaks has uncovered, I've found that in this digital age nothing can truly be erased. And in cases like this with so much supporting circumstantial evidence that there very well could be something to this story. But, as I stated previously, time will tell.

Bias confirmation, indeed, Johnny.

And I've been lurking on ATS for years.


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posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 08:59 PM
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posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 09:01 PM
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posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 09:08 PM
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a reply to: loam

From your first link:


Edit 2: /u/NotNolan brought up a fantastic point. If the admins continue to shadow edit, they could surreptitiously cause serious social damage to your account without you even knowing. Imagine all of the awful things they could pretty much make you say. This is not right. It has gone too far. Manipulating the words of your users is #ed. # YOU SPEZ.


People have lost jobs over reddit posts, pretty sure they've gone to jail over them too. If a mod were feeling especially vindictive, they could cause someone a whole world of hurt.

Then, you have to question if they've done it before and not come clean on it?

Next think you do is to look at the topic to which this is done and ask why?



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 09:13 PM
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a reply to: Konduit


Wow they just proved pizza gate was real.



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 09:17 PM
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originally posted by: Throes

originally posted by: Greggers

originally posted by: Throes

originally posted by: wirehead
So, in summary, people realized that if you replace the word pizza with child pornography in DNC emails it sounds like they order a lot of child pornography for large events. Truly inspirational investigative reporting.


People wouldn't have replaced pizza with anything if pizza made sense in the context of the emails. It didn't make sense.


Yes it did.

Please show me one of these emails where it didn't make sense.

Will you offer up the pizza related map?

The totally fabricated "hair on my pizza" email?



Well the hacker chief with pizza related map did make no sense.

Never mentioned hair on my pizza, not sure where that came from.


Pizza related map did make sense.

The hair on my pizza email was one of the many hoaxes floating around. I never said you mentioned it -- i was asking if you would mention it.



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 09:23 PM
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#pizzagate already happened and it turned out to be a bowling ball.



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 09:32 PM
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a reply to: anonentity

Reddit admins claim they shutdown r/pizzagate because users were 'doxxing' people which is against T&C.

But now we have clear evidence that admins have been changing users comments in regard to pizzagate. Could they also be responsible for editing users posts in an attempt to get the subreddit shut down?

The rabbit hole just got deeper.

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posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

Whatever.

Like Google, Facebook, Twitter and all of the MSM, they have finally exposed themselves and forever damaged their credibility.

No putting the genie back in the bottle.



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 09:39 PM
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a reply to: Konduit

A lot deeper.

And this wasn't just any admin, pretty sure spez is reddit's version of Skeptic Overlord or Springer.

And the edits were taking place in a way that it the post was not noted as being edited.



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 09:39 PM
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originally posted by: loam
a reply to: Konduit

Whatever.

Like Google, Facebook, Twitter and all of the MSM, they have finally exposed themselves and forever damaged their credibility.

No putting the genie back in the bottle.



True dat. I've lost a ton of respect for them, and will no longer be posting there.

Just waiting for ATS to fall next....



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 09:42 PM
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2 minutes 40 seconds-approx- of this following video, that weird singer of that band that performs at Comet Ping Pong , says "we all have preferences" then laughs,right after some people in the audience talk about "little boys'" and "children" etc. I found this highly disturbing actually...
There a few others. Of course, we have to be careful with these types of accusations, but some of this is surely questionable.




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posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 09:52 PM
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a reply to: X88B88

In reply to 1:

Far-right fascists want to prove that the left needs to be eliminated wholesale. Gaining control of the wheels of government is only the beginning for them. Of course the entire right is not populated with such folk, but right now those folk are rather powerful. Therefore, I do not buy into the "no motive" argument. They've plenty of motive.

In reply to 2:

I think it noteworthy that Snopes was able to demonstrate that the photos attributed to the owner were actually harvested from Yelp reviews, not from the owner's Instagram. This fact echoes much of what has been going on during the last year in terms of deliberate manipulations and deceptions on the part of people who would like to see the US become a "Fash Nation".

In reply to 3:

It was begun by a husband and wife team, who by the way have no trace of partisanship, and has several editors fact-checking. FactCheck.org analyzed their work and found them to be free of bias. Of course the radical fascists who are currently gaining control in the United States find everyone concerned with fact and not propaganda to be partisan and biased. You've made your ad hominem slightly more sophisticated, here, but it's still an ad hominem.

In reply to 4:

No, it has not been shown. It has been claimed, and with little merit. Does she float? Does she not? Witch either way.

Yes, time will tell. Not so long from now, history will judge quite harshly the facilitators and propagators of lies in the name of white supremacy and similar agendas. Good luck to you. Walk in peace. Eschew the violent.



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 10:08 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyElohim
a reply to: X88B88

In reply to 1:

Far-right fascists want to prove that the left needs to be eliminated wholesale. Gaining control of the wheels of government is only the beginning for them. Of course the entire right is not populated with such folk, but right now those folk are rather powerful. Therefore, I do not buy into the "no motive" argument. They've plenty of motive.

In reply to 2:

I think it noteworthy that Snopes was able to demonstrate that the photos attributed to the owner were actually harvested from Yelp reviews, not from the owner's Instagram. This fact echoes much of what has been going on during the last year in terms of deliberate manipulations and deceptions on the part of people who would like to see the US become a "Fash Nation".

In reply to 3:

It was begun by a husband and wife team, who by the way have no trace of partisanship, and has several editors fact-checking. FactCheck.org analyzed their work and found them to be free of bias. Of course the radical fascists who are currently gaining control in the United States find everyone concerned with fact and not propaganda to be partisan and biased. You've made your ad hominem slightly more sophisticated, here, but it's still an ad hominem.

In reply to 4:

No, it has not been shown. It has been claimed, and with little merit. Does she float? Does she not? Witch either way.

Yes, time will tell. Not so long from now, history will judge quite harshly the facilitators and propagators of lies in the name of white supremacy and similar agendas. Good luck to you. Walk in peace. Eschew the violent.



Watch that video I posted above. The instagram had instances where the owner said "chickenlover" in response to a picture of someone holding a baby.
Also, the band and what the lead singer is saying at about 2:40 in.



posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 10:19 PM
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Attention for this one. Here is another Band that has performed at COMET PING PONG
The FBI PEDO Symbols are EXACT, look at the boxes in the VIDEO




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HERE THEY ARE PERFORMING AT COMET PING PONG


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posted on Nov, 23 2016 @ 10:25 PM
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I just get a blank screen. There is a white background, a header, but no text appears. I'm mobile, maybe that's why?




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