a reply to: burntheships
Perhaps you've been reading too much Sputnik News and Breitbart? I'm working on something but I intend to make a strong case for the fact that Donald
Trump is at best an unwitting mouthpiece for the Russians.
There's always been a strong connected figure behind Trump starting with his father and then in his mid 20's for about 13 years starting in 1973 it
was Roy Cohn by whom Trump was first brought into the NY oligarch set and whose style Trump largely emulates. Roy Cohn introduced him to characters
ranging from "Fat Tony" Salerno to Ronald Reagan. He also introduced him to Roger Stone in 1979. Roger Stone who in 1980 formed Black, Manafort and
Stone with Charles Black Jr and Paul Manafort.
BMS was involved in all manners of shady business right from the get. Taking a million a year on the books from Ferdinand Marcos to help him stay in
power. Allegedly funneling tens of millions of dollars into GOP campaigns. Manafort copped to "influence peddling" in the HUD scandal in the 80s as
well. Then there was the millions they took to essentially lobby and propagandize for military dictator Mobutu Sese Seko in the US in the mid-80's.
All the while, advising GOP candidates as well. Real political mercenaries this lot. (Black was actually advising Kasich against his friend of
Roger Stone of course became Trump's personal lobbyist/fixer. Manafort sort of dropped out of sight in the late 90's. After Yanukovych's election was
thrown out for fraud in 2004, he was introduced to Manafort by Ukrainian billionaire Rinat Akhmetov who was a big supporter of the Russophile Party of
Regions and for whom Manafort was working. He sent his Russian advisors packing and hired Manafort who after making Yanukovych's party the largest
voting bloc in parliament following the 2006 and 2007 elections (and Yanukovych installed as Prime Minister), got Putin's pal Yanukovych elected
President in 2010.
That of course turned out badly and Putin had to rescue Yanukovych from the Ukraine and whisk him off to Russia. Manafort stayed behind and went to
work for Yanukovych’s former chief of staff, Serhiy Lyovochkin, rebranding the party. In fact, it's not actually known whether or not Manafort is
still on the payroll. What is known is that despite a lot of effort to downplay what he was up to, Manafort is known to be involved in a host of shady
deals including one for which he's being sued by Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska whom had put Manafort & co in charge of $100 million to invest in
Ukrainian businesses. He's been implicated in a criminal case against a Ukrainian justice office and most recently his name turned up in a handwritten
ledger of kickbacks/payoffs indicating $12.7 million in cash payments to Manafort as part of an anti-corruption investigation.
Arguably Manafort set the stage for Putin to ultimately annex Crimea.
This would be the same guy who pretended to resign from the campaign and went to work for CNN but has since been found to still be on the Trump
payroll to the tune of at least $20,000 month. That's just the tip of the Manafort iceberg and that's just Manafort. Then there's Carter Page, advisor
on Russia to the Trump campaign who was an advisor for years to Gazprom, the Russian mega natural gas company which became majority state owned in
2005 and which Page has significant investments. It would take another several paragraphs just to summarize all the connections to Putin through
Russian billioniares and officials. Suffices to say while working for the Trump campaign he's been traveling to Moscow and meeting with sanctioned
Russian officials and now that there are calls for an investigation, the Trump campaign is trying to play stupid about him.
There's Richard Burt, another advisor to Trump (and a former Reagan advisor) who has ties to Gazprom and sits on the senior advisory board of
Alfa-Bank, Russia's largest private commercial bank with signficant dealings in... Ukraine. Burt is credited with heavily contributing to Trump's
foreign policy speech.
Trump (who first visited Moscow in the late 80's) lies about his ties to Russia but it's hard to cover up the past in the Internet age no matter how
much you hide your tax returns when there's quotes from your son in 2008 saying at a NY real estate convention that "Russians make up a pretty
disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets." Putin pal and Russian Billionaire Aras Agalarov helped finance the deal that brought the Miss
Universe pageant to Moscow in 2013. Agalarov was acting as a liason at the time trying to bring Putin and Trump together for a face to face.
Then there's Boris Epshteyn, another Trump advisor who is an investment banker, "GOP strategist" and contributor to the Daily Caller — a former
McCain campaign staffer who has recently joined the Trump campaign — running around acting as a Trump surrogate while defending Putin at every
I'm missing some people here and of course a lot of detail but I'm working on putting it all together as likely a multi-part thread but no, it's not
all "unfounded wing nut conspiracy" at all. At absolute BEST, Trump is heavily influenced by pro-Russian advisors, some of them with very shady
dealings with very corrupt friends of Putin.
So forgive me for seeing the irony in this topic.
edit on 2016-9-24 by theantediluvian because: (no reason given)