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We show that by using quantum theory the subjective experience, including that of observing the representation of the universe, is what exists. This is called the 'Subjective Universe'. In particular, we discuss this concept based on two parts of quantum theory, namely, unitary evolution and measurement.
originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Greggers
When the wave function appears to collape,due to it being objectified. Its been observed and then suddenly, the wave function which is travelling at light speed, which gives it a property where its in a time locked state.Then How can it actually collapse because its time locked and not in our Uniiverse,its state is one without time, and if thats so, it has no dimension. Dosn't this suggest some sort of concious involvment in making sense of an objectified Universe. Dosn't it smell like, the wave collapse is being interpreted as a wave collapse,when no such thing could have occured.
originally posted by: Kashai
a reply to: Greggers
To an athlete the recoil of a 44 magnum revolver could very well be manageable while the same event to that one who does not engage in physical activity, could easily result in a broken nose and potentially even worst.
These are not subjective experience they are measurable and consistent objectively.
At issue is a philological as opposed to an emotional response to a stressor like in the case of PTSD or not developing the same problem when confronted with exactly the same stressor.
Even then to reason that the response if purely a subjective one at best is a generalization that could very well be wrong.
originally posted by: neoholographic
a reply to: Greggers
That guy is a Theoretical Physicist with published papers LOL.
You sound riduculous. You do know that words have multiple meanings and I gave you the clear definition as to what I was talking about when I first made the statement.
I gave you definitions and context that a blind man could see but you still don't get it. Why? I have no idea.
originally posted by: Greggers
originally posted by: neoholographic
a reply to: Greggers
That guy is a Theoretical Physicist with published papers LOL.
You sound riduculous. You do know that words have multiple meanings and I gave you the clear definition as to what I was talking about when I first made the statement.
I gave you definitions and context that a blind man could see but you still don't get it. Why? I have no idea.
Oh, I get it alright. I can tell you one thing: the guy isn't an English major.
You do realize that objective and subjective are words in the English language with dictionary definitions, right?
What he's essentially describing is a multi-verse. The fact that multiple realities exist does not make the experiences within each of them subjective.
Remember, subjective = dependent upon the individual. It's actually more granular even than that (as I mentioned above), but we'll go with this because it illustrates the point most cleanly.
The universe as percieved isn't the sum of reality.
It's really that simple. Subjective(percieved) universe.
How can it be objective when it depends on the subjective choice of the observer?
Reality doesn’t exist until we measure it, quantum experiment confirms
Do subatomic particles have free will?
Again I ask, if our universe is an objective reality why does the measurement of a particle depend on our subjective choice?
“We have to remember that what we observe is not nature in itself but
nature exposed to our method of questioning.”
― Werner Heisenberg
If our universe is this objective reality, then why does our method of questioning even matter?
originally posted by: sapien82
a reply to: LetsGoViking
if this is a simulation then what role do psychedelics play ! are they back door codes or something left by programmers trying to give the game away or something