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Quantum Entanglement shows the universe is a vast simulation

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posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 02:19 PM
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I do some Computer Programming on the side and I build websites, the world as a simulation makes more sense to me rather than the world being the result of some random physics. There's no such thing as randomness to me. Everything is governed by a set of rules, laws and values and you just get variations of these rules and laws.

More and more people are talking about the universe as a simulation. Here's a talk from Neil deGrasse Tyson, James Gates and others on the topic.



Here's another talk called Our Universe as a Hologram



The point is, Scientist are finding it easier to explain our universe as a construct od 2D information rather than it being an objective material reality. This goes back to Plato and the Allegory of the Cave and Digital Physics which has been around for awhile. There was a recent study that talked about Einstein and how there's no signal between what he called "spooky action at a distance."


As described in a paper posted online and submitted to Physical Review Letters (PRL), researchers from NIST and several other institutions created pairs of identical light particles, or photons, and sent them to two different locations to be measured. Researchers showed the measured results not only were correlated, but also—by eliminating all other known options—that these correlations cannot be caused by the locally controlled, "realistic" universe Einstein thought we lived in. This implies a different explanation such as entanglement.

The NIST experiments are called Bell tests, so named because in 1964 Irish physicist John Bell showed there are limits to measurement correlations that can be ascribed to local, pre-existing (i.e. realistic) conditions. Additional correlations beyond those limits would require either sending signals faster than the speed of light, which scientists consider impossible, or another mechanism, such as quantum entanglement.

In the best experimental run, both detectors simultaneously identified photons a total of 6,378 times over a period of 30 minutes. Other outcomes (such as just one detector firing) accounted for only 5,749 of the 12,127 total relevant events. Researchers calculated that the maximum chance of local realism producing these results is just 0.0000000059, or about 1 in 170 million. This outcome exceeds the particle physics community's requirement for a "5 sigma" result needed to declare something a discovery. The results strongly rule out local realistic theories, suggesting that the quantum mechanical explanation of entanglement is indeed the correct explanation.


phys.org...

Local realism is dead and has been dead for awhile but there will be some who cling to this because the thought that our universe isn't the sum of all that exists scares them because if the universe is virtual and a simulation then that means there limited view of "reality" that's based on localism is false.

This brings us to Entanglement. Entanglement is starting to look like a very key player in just about everything. Entanglement is tied to the holographic universe, black hole thermodynamics, gravity and more.

If you look at entangled particles, they only make sense in the context of the language of computation. Calling them particles conjures up the image of particles of sand or salt and of course if you have 2 particles of sand at the opposite ends of the beach, they will not be correlated. I think semantics plays a role in why these things may be hard to grasp at times.

Instead of particles they should be called pixels and space-time should be called a screen. So what we call particles are more like pixels on a space-time screen rather than particles of sand.

I can write a program where red dots are moving randomly on the screen and then I write into the program that everytime a red dot gets entangled with another red dot when I click on the red dot the dot it's entangled with turns green. I don't need any signal betwwen the dots because they all share the same screen. If I blow the computer screen up to the size of the universe, the dots will still be connected no matter where they are on the screen. Now, it's just a matter of processing information.

I think this is entanglement and there's no need for any spooky action at a distance because what we call "particles" are more like pixels and space-time is mor like a computer screen. When the program is being processed, vast amounts of data on the 2D horizon is being projected. M.I.T. Professor Seth Lloyd calculated the Computational Capacity of the Universe.

Computational capacity of the universe


Merely by existing, all physical systems register information. And by evolving dynamically in time, they transform and process that information. The laws of physics determine the amount of information that a physical system can register (number of bits) and the number of elementary logic operations that a system can perform (number of ops). The universe is a physical system. This paper quantifies the amount of information that the universe can register and the number of elementary operations that it can have performed over its history. The universe can have performed no more than 10120 ops on 1090 bits.


arxiv.org...

You can look at our universe like a supercomputer and the multiverse as a Quantum Computer. This is why claasical physics and quantum mechanics have been at odds but many Scientist recognize this and you have theories being proposed that confine the classical universe to our brane or pocket while quantum mechanics plays out through all branes or pockets.




posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 02:26 PM
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I do some Computer Programming on the side and I build websites, the world as a simulation makes more sense to me rather than the world being the result of some random physics. There's no such thing as randomness to me. Everything is governed by a set of rules, laws and values and you just get variations of these rules and laws.

What are you saying, nothings real?

Is that for real?

The only people promoting the idea life isn't real are the ones trying to justify their actions. Everything we do is okay, after all it isn't real.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 03:02 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

I really get pity for humanity seeing this "serious" looking people, talking "serious" stuff.

Matter is hype
Intelligence is a hype
The existence by itself is a hype

But what I am saying is an ages old stuff, religion was invented long ago...



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 03:04 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

Wouldn't this imply an other dimensional 'processor" or god to control the interactions? Doesn't this raise more questions than answers?



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 03:05 PM
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Entanglement is greatly misunderstood, even by many scientists.

demystifying Quantum Entanglement

Add to that media hyping, and you are sure to get the farthest thing possible from truth.


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posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 03:07 PM
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It's funny isn't it, that after we developed simulation, claims that the universe is a simulation, are made.

This is just another claim, made of its time.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 03:10 PM
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Let's hope we never find the source code for this simulation, weird # might start to happen



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 03:10 PM
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So where does this simulation and hologram come from?



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 03:21 PM
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Let's say we are in a "simulation" does that then mean we're not real same with everything around us?

No, even if this is a simulation then that still means we are real and of this world.

Doesn't mean it's not true or untrue but more we do exist and so does everything we know around us, only the source could tell us,,, until then we exist in a physical universe etc.

Just my view (for now) and i'm sure it will change as my life goes on.


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posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 03:36 PM
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yup. they nailed it. this is all just a very sad game of sims left on autopilot.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 04:16 PM
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originally posted by: Mianeye
Let's hope we never find the source code for this simulation, weird # might start to happen


That could already be happening.

Here's a talk from Theoretical Physicist John Preskill that asks Is Spacetime an eroor correcting code?



Professor James Gates found error correcting codes in the equations of String Theory



Quantum Gates and Quantum Circuits of Stock Portfolio


In quantum computation, series of quantum gates have to be arranged in a predefined sequence that led to a quantum circuit in order to solve a particular problem. What if the sequence of quantum gates is known but both the problem to be solved and the outcome of the so defined quantum circuit remain in the shadow? This is the situation of the stock market. The price time series of a portfolio of stocks are organized in braids that effectively simulate quantum gates in the hypothesis of Ising anyons quantum computational model. Following the prescriptions of Ising anyons model, 1-qubit quantum gates are constructed for portfolio composed of four stocks. Adding two additional stocks at the initial portfolio result in 2-qubits quantum gates and circuits. Hadamard gate, Pauli gates or controlled-Z gate are some of the elementary quantum gates that are identified in the stock market structure. Addition of other pairs of stocks, that eventually represent a market index, like Dow Jones industrial Average, it results in a sequence of n-qubits quantum gates that form a quantum code. Deciphering this mysterious quantum code of the stock market is an issue for future investigations.


arxiv.org...

Google said they could have a universal quantum computer as early as next year.

Google’s Quantum Dream May Be Just Around the Corner


Researchers at the company could unveil a quantum computer that is superior to conventional computers by the end of next year.


www.technologyreview.com...



These things are happening. They're not hypotheticals and whether people want to accept it or not is really inconsequential.

The way we will find this quantum code is through quantum gates and quantum error correcting codes. We can then simulate these codes on a quantum computer and I suspect we will be able to simulate the universe and everything in it.

Google’s quantum computer just accurately simulated a molecule for the first time


Google's engineers just achieved a milestone in quantum computing: they’ve produced the first completely scalable quantum simulation of a hydrogen molecule.

That’s big news, because it shows similar devices could help us unlock the quantum secrets hidden in the chemistry that surrounds us.


www.sciencealert.com...

We have to be careful though because whoever put these codes in place may have made sure that we can't hack these codes. If we try to, the entire system could collapse and reboot and what we call the big bang could occur again.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 04:30 PM
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naw....no worries

all things will be revealed...it's scriptural and that means science?....yezz

God's letting science catch his handiwork....



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 04:49 PM
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I just want to say BRAVO!, this is probably the best post I have read on ATS. I agree 100 %



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 05:14 PM
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Could you describe stars, planets, comets, black holes, etc. as stored data?

I'm not a scientist, so don't get mad if what I say isn't exactly accurate, but space as a temperature of 2.7 kelvins so could these celestial bodies actually be a representation of stored information?

Google is working on a quantum computer that successfully simulated a hydrogen atom. Maybe space as we know it, isn't actually space at all and is actually a giant quantum computer, and the celestial bodies, including life is really just stored data.

i don't know just throwing something out there.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 06:52 PM
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yeah, im still waiting for something more definitive. For each piece of evidence in favor of a holographic universe, there is another against it.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 07:16 PM
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I posted about this in another similar thread today.

Don't want to restate everything so I'll give cliff notes.

Gnosticism
Buddhism and Maya.
Heaven and Hell as simulations?
Buddha realms as simulations on the way to nothingness.

Buy it or it or don't, Mysticism through the ages has been pretty unequivocally on the side of this realm being an illusion (simulation.)



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 07:34 PM
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'twould be nice to have a linky to that post.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 08:00 PM
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This is all so very interesting , but we know that a photon dosn't exist in linear time.So the photon without the time coefficient.Is also devoid of speed and distance.So the conclusion must be its existing in an eternal space, so all definitions are relevent only to us and not the photon.So it comes as no surprise that the quantum entaglement exists because it can be everywhere at once,or not depending on the experiment.The same with the shell positions of electrons,when they jump,they do so instantly, if they existed in linear time,when they jumped they would turn into energy,so their fuzy position, must infere they are also made of the same stuff as photons.?



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 10:35 PM
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And we have to consider that both photons and protons do not have any "realness" to them, their mass is comprised of amount of energy they contain. Essentially existing as waveforms only. Now whether this adds to or subtracts from the OP is an interesting discussion that will require several pints to fully consider.



posted on Sep, 24 2016 @ 10:40 PM
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originally posted by: neoholographic
I do some Computer Programming on the side and I build websites, the world as a simulation makes more sense to me rather than the world being the result of some random physics. There's no such thing as randomness to me. Everything is governed by a set of rules, laws and values and you just get variations of these rules and laws.

More and more people are talking about the universe as a simulation. Here's a talk from Neil deGrasse Tyson, James Gates and others on the topic.



Here's another talk called Our Universe as a Hologram



The point is, Scientist are finding it easier to explain our universe as a construct od 2D information rather than it being an objective material reality. This goes back to Plato and the Allegory of the Cave and Digital Physics which has been around for awhile. There was a recent study that talked about Einstein and how there's no signal between what he called "spooky action at a distance."


As described in a paper posted online and submitted to Physical Review Letters (PRL), researchers from NIST and several other institutions created pairs of identical light particles, or photons, and sent them to two different locations to be measured. Researchers showed the measured results not only were correlated, but also—by eliminating all other known options—that these correlations cannot be caused by the locally controlled, "realistic" universe Einstein thought we lived in. This implies a different explanation such as entanglement.

The NIST experiments are called Bell tests, so named because in 1964 Irish physicist John Bell showed there are limits to measurement correlations that can be ascribed to local, pre-existing (i.e. realistic) conditions. Additional correlations beyond those limits would require either sending signals faster than the speed of light, which scientists consider impossible, or another mechanism, such as quantum entanglement.

In the best experimental run, both detectors simultaneously identified photons a total of 6,378 times over a period of 30 minutes. Other outcomes (such as just one detector firing) accounted for only 5,749 of the 12,127 total relevant events. Researchers calculated that the maximum chance of local realism producing these results is just 0.0000000059, or about 1 in 170 million. This outcome exceeds the particle physics community's requirement for a "5 sigma" result needed to declare something a discovery. The results strongly rule out local realistic theories, suggesting that the quantum mechanical explanation of entanglement is indeed the correct explanation.


phys.org...

Local realism is dead and has been dead for awhile but there will be some who cling to this because the thought that our universe isn't the sum of all that exists scares them because if the universe is virtual and a simulation then that means there limited view of "reality" that's based on localism is false.

This brings us to Entanglement. Entanglement is starting to look like a very key player in just about everything. Entanglement is tied to the holographic universe, black hole thermodynamics, gravity and more.

If you look at entangled particles, they only make sense in the context of the language of computation. Calling them particles conjures up the image of particles of sand or salt and of course if you have 2 particles of sand at the opposite ends of the beach, they will not be correlated. I think semantics plays a role in why these things may be hard to grasp at times.

Instead of particles they should be called pixels and space-time should be called a screen. So what we call particles are more like pixels on a space-time screen rather than particles of sand.

I can write a program where red dots are moving randomly on the screen and then I write into the program that everytime a red dot gets entangled with another red dot when I click on the red dot the dot it's entangled with turns green. I don't need any signal betwwen the dots because they all share the same screen. If I blow the computer screen up to the size of the universe, the dots will still be connected no matter where they are on the screen. Now, it's just a matter of processing information.

I think this is entanglement and there's no need for any spooky action at a distance because what we call "particles" are more like pixels and space-time is mor like a computer screen. When the program is being processed, vast amounts of data on the 2D horizon is being projected. M.I.T. Professor Seth Lloyd calculated the Computational Capacity of the Universe.

Computational capacity of the universe


Merely by existing, all physical systems register information. And by evolving dynamically in time, they transform and process that information. The laws of physics determine the amount of information that a physical system can register (number of bits) and the number of elementary logic operations that a system can perform (number of ops). The universe is a physical system. This paper quantifies the amount of information that the universe can register and the number of elementary operations that it can have performed over its history. The universe can have performed no more than 10120 ops on 1090 bits.


arxiv.org...

You can look at our universe like a supercomputer and the multiverse as a Quantum Computer. This is why claasical physics and quantum mechanics have been at odds but many Scientist recognize this and you have theories being proposed that confine the classical universe to our brane or pocket while quantum mechanics plays out through all branes or pockets.


I think it more likely we are just learning to copy reality. We are just figuring out how to make our machines emulate the universe, that does not make the universe a machine though.




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