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Why is Hillary Not Gaining in the Polls if Trump is So Awful?

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posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 07:25 PM
a reply to: Sublimecraft

My feelings exactly. Her and Bill have screwed over Americans with NAFTA first and foremost. Then he axed the GI Bill in 1995 when I was trying to use something I earned. I had to take out a bank loan to go to college. Very upsetting for me and something I can never forgive. I served 4 years of really rough duty and then when I try to enroll I get told no. Bill cut that out for a year. I ended up having to join the Guard to pay for school. I want them eliminated from politics. I want them to not have enough money to run around like Bill whoring around. I want them staying in different homes to show what they are all about in the end.

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 07:26 PM

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: sirlancelot
Cause Hillary is a liar, crook, un healthly, and has no accomplishments and most of all she wants to continue and expand the Obama agenda and it's negative impact on our country!

The most succinct version of Trump's campaign. It should be on shirts and hat.

It already is!
Too much material one could use to illustrate the detritus of the Hillary and liberal agenda's.

one of those deplorables

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 07:51 PM
Perhaps HRC isn't spending enough money on TV Ads ?

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 07:55 PM
a reply to: JacKatMtn

I'm in the NY/Migh area and I don't see ads for either. The local pols are duking it out though.

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 07:57 PM

originally posted by: LifeMode

originally posted by: intrptr

People didn't like her last time either.

That is a great point, one the media ignores. She got beat by a nobody. Trump is not a nobody. Maybe in politics but his name is well known going on 30 years as a business man that makes things happen.

One fact the media ignores; former loser candidates win less than 5% of the time. It's the elephant in the room stat they have decided to ignore.

Thats more telling, shes 'proven' herself with Libya, endless war and debt are alright by her. Maybe they'll hire her this time. I don't see much support from the people otherwise, who would stay in the running without that? Unless it didn't matter. Not that the people's vote matters anyway, its the electoral votes, super delegates, the media, the corporations and the endless voter fraud that seems to prevail these days.

Now thats scary...

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 07:59 PM
a reply to: intrepid

Yeah most of the $$$ is concentrated in the battleground states....

PA, OH, FL, NC etc...

more info here:

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 08:03 PM

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: intrptr

People didn't like her last time either.

This basically.

The establishment got so out of touch and confident in their own prowess at king making that they are positive that they can coronate anyone, and they may be right. They may have enough control over the process that despite all evidence to the contrary we will all wake up to a three-quarters dead woman having "won" the election in November.

But they can't make anyone like her or want her for president. That part of the system that can't yet game.

Thats what I'm thinking too. Passed over last time, ripe for (s)election this time round.

They spent more time on election coverage this time than any other. The Hillary hard sell, in the hopes that this time everyone will like her better just because they promoted her more.

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 08:06 PM
Hillary is horrible she doesn't deserve the nomination and would lose to any of the republicans, but she is running against Trump and that is why she is leading.

It isn't hard to figure out.

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 08:30 PM
I think early in her career, she wanted to stick it to the man, via the Saul Alinsky. In doing so over time, she became the man, with all it's influence and power. As time progressed she became wealthy through manipulation of private interests and lobbies, favors for favors. You see where it has gotten us, the citizens over the decades.

Trump is the Champion now, wanting to stick it to the man (corrupt business as usual) and the people relate to him. Hillary and Obama have pretty much always had socialist leanings and the people want nothing to do with it.

You may disagree, but this is my take on the current state of affairs.

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 08:34 PM
It's what they represent.

Hillary Clinton represents everything that has happened to the country since 1992. She served as First Lady, not normally anything more than a title, but for her it was an advisory position. She went on to become a NY Senator. Then she served as Secretary of State. The statements about her being the most qualified candidates are true. She embodies everything government is.

But government is not a good thing right now. We all watched as our soldiers went off to war against Iraq, when the 911 terrorists were mostly from Saudi Arabia. We've watched that area since erupt into violence from the gaping hole in authority we made. We saw gasoline double in price in the space of a week, and remain at crazy levels for years. We watched inflation running rampant in our lives while the government told us it was our imagination. We watched the government give our tax dollars to banks and multinational corporations and we watched those same businesses spend it in bonuses to the very people who caused them to need the money. We watched our jobs disappear as companies gave up and moved out of the country. We saw the jobs that were left being filled by non-citizens who couldn't even speak the language while citizens suffered. We watched as the border patrol was regulated from doing their jobs. We heard the cries of 'racist!, because we had the gall to complain.

We watched as police brutality... and legal murder in some cases... was splashed across our TV screens. We heard the response: get rid of your guns. We watched poverty increase, to the point that more Americans are on food stamps than ever before... meaning more Americans can't afford to eat than ever before. We watched as the wealthiest 1% got richer and richer while this was going on. We saw violence erupt again, as Mideastern terrorists shot up businesses, bombed events, and disrupted our lives, then saw calls to let thousands more refugees from that same region in unvetted. And when we complained, we heard the cries of 'racist!'

We watched the EPA put businesses away for ridiculous reasons. We heard the cries for climate change taxation, for mandatory insurance, and for higher taxes, and we looked at our finances and screamed "NO!" We watched those screams drowned out and ignored. We saw the national debt rising to horrendous levels and screamed "STOP!" but again were ignored.

That's what Hillary Clinton represents.

Trump represents something entirely different. He represents common sense. He says he wants to stop illegal immigration by building a wall. He wants to make sure those coming from the Middle East are vetted. He wants to bring good jobs back. He wants to make America great again. So do we.

We want to get up in the morning, have a good breakfast, go to work, do our job, and come home to a nice supper. On the weekends, we want to fish, hunt, golf, watch TV, mow the yard, or have a good time in a number of other ways. We want to pay the bills on time, have a dependable car, a nice house, and a little left for retirement and some fun. We want to go out to a restaurant from time to time. We want to get along with our neighbors, co-workers, and the people we meet on the street.

We want to be happy again.

We don't want to be afraid to talk to others because we might say something that's not PC. We don't want to have to decide between medicine and food because there's not enough money for both. We don't want to worry that our job will move off and leave us unemployed. We don't want to be told what to think, what to say, what to buy.

We want the government to STOP HURTING US.

In 2008, we elected Barack Obama. We wanted hope and change. Things were already bad. In 2012, we were given a choice between Obama and Romney... the former was making things worse and the latter promised to make things worse. In 2016, we have Hillary and Trump... the former helped make things worse, is doing the same things that made it worse, is promising to make it worse, and the latter... DIDN'T, ISN'T AND PROMISES HE WON'T! And he speaks plainly, without considering every syllable, just like we do. And he is saying what we have been saying for so long. And the ones who did make things worse, who showed us how dangerous it was to talk freely for fear of the labels, are trying to label Trump too. He understands our deepest fears, because the enemy is trying to hurt him the same way.

Want proof? Watch someone try and take this post apart, word by word, while ignoring the overall meaning. Watch them tell me how wrong I am to want to live my life without dealing with beaurocrats constantly.

Hillary stands for oppression and more pain for all. Trump stands for hope that some of it will go away... the modern "hope and change."

That's the answer to why.


posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 08:38 PM

originally posted by: TheRedneck
Trump stands for hope that some of it will go away... the modern "hope and change."

How did that work out for you guys last time?

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 08:44 PM
a reply to: LifeMode

Maybe because everyone who is voting for either of them have already given them their numbers. They have no one new to gain numbers with. I plan not to vote, neither one of them appeal to me, whichever one wins ... well we're screwed! Makes no sense to me to vote at all, even if I write someone in, or choose a third party candidate one of them will win.

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 09:27 PM
My wife played a Seth Meyers video, something I wouldn't ordinarily watch....

The pace of the attack was such that no room for counterpoint or rational explanation of these accusations.

Outside of being partisan, it was offensive, a 1000 word rant who's punchline was "Trump University".

Is that really the biggest story out there? Trump's college application...? He graduated Wharton School of Business University of Pennsylvania, considered one of the best in the world. Who are these chuckle-heads to criticize someone who....founded a university??? For better or worse Trump did all these corny business things more or less successfully, but what I'm saying it they make him very much THE AMERICAN Candidate! He's almost an ideal candidate in the world we live in, had a #1 tv show, owned stuff like casinos...and has that retro 1980s motif!

It's almost a gift people, this is what America needs, a kick in the ass.

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 09:29 PM
One huge false assumption.

Even the people who will vote for her in order to not have Trump don't like her, don't trust her, and will hold there nose while they do it because they are afraid Trump will completely mess everything up even more. Seriously, you know how many people I know who always vote democrat say that they wish Mitt Romney was a choice at this point?

The only democrats who think Hillary is great are the one's in Trump fan's imaginations. And some media talking heads.
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posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 09:35 PM
National Polls are useless, it's not a national election. It's a state by state election based in the Electoral College. In the Electoral College, Hillary Clinton has never had less than 273 (even on her worst polling day), needing 270 to win.

Donald Trump has never had more than 181, even on his best polling day.

The news media tries to tell everyone the race is very close, but it's not, and never was.

It's a blatant campaign of misinformation perpetrated on the American people by every news network in the country.

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 09:38 PM
a reply to: stosh64

I logged in solely to star this post. Bravo.

Hillary is not farther ahead because Americans have chosen to roll the dice rather than give the job to a person that's so blatantly micturated upon our dorsal sides and informed us that it's precipitation. I'd rather give the job to an unknown, even as despicable as Donald Trump, than reward someone I've watched weasel out of every dirty scheme in the book since the 1990s.

It's as simple as that.

Oh, and the Trump team is socially engineering the hell out of this election. Just saying.

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 09:39 PM

originally posted by: intrepid
Two reasons. She ain't much better than him and he's got a devoted bunch of acolytes that are spewing a lot of # around. They also eat that # up. It's self perpetuating.

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 09:43 PM

originally posted by: intrepid
Two reasons. She ain't much better than him and he's got a devoted bunch of acolytes that are spewing a lot of # around. They also eat that # up. It's self perpetuating.

I think you got that turned around. "You meant He's not that much better than her." right? I mean really, to put Hillary above Trump at this point is ridiculous and delusional.

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 09:43 PM

originally posted by: Blazemore2000
People, in general are dumber than the proverbial sack of doorknobs... so there's that. Plus she sucks too. Anyone that actually gave a damn about this country would vote third party.

So, vote for the TPP and open borders supporting "Wheres Allepo" hippie liberal masquerading as a libertarian? Nah.

Maga, fellow deplorables.

posted on Sep, 20 2016 @ 09:46 PM
Mainstream media is doing its best to topple Trump.

If he or any republican candidate had email trouble like Hillary they would have burned them at the stake a long time ago.

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