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originally posted by: Abinkadoo
a reply to: waynos
I literally can't debate with you anymore, and no not because you "got me", because you didnt. But because I can ask you the same questions you ask me, pertaining to your doubtfulness on this subject, then it just turns into repetition. You're doubting claims based upon what? Feelings or actual data? And if data, where is it?
Also where are your sources disproving the people in the video? Where are your numbers disproving the numbers people have came up with? And if you liste,ed to the video, why did the aluminum levels in the air sky rocket from pre-2000 to present day?
Contrails obviously persist overtime a plane flies....
chemtrails are another thing altogether, agent' they?
You want someone to verify their existence?
Chemtrails vs. contrails. give me a friggin break.
All you peeps begging for that discussion are baiting the rest of us.
Just my experience, there. Stop, already. Most of us know what's going on here vis a vis this issue,
If you don't, it's probably better you remain unknowledgeable.....as having knowledge these days kinda means you'll suffer through what you sought and learned. I didn't make it this way......I am simply warning people that this is where we are and what is happening.....
originally posted by: tetra50
There is no evidence for a plane leaving a contrail? Just like a car leaves exhaust from the engine? If it's white, and the care is malfunctioning, we all realize it's one thing, where if it's a black exhaust trail, it's likely burning oil, leaving a whole other engine malfunction explanation.......
Surely this isn;t so complicated.....
All engines flying in the sky are bound to leave a trail. right?
can we agree on that, at least?
That would be the starting point, I think......
originally posted by: Abinkadoo
a reply to: mrthumpy
I did Google them. But where's the factual data than can definitely deny the claims that they exist? Comparing a cloud to something that's just unknown speculation, you can't really do in my eyes.
Trust me, I don't want to believe in this situation at all. Knowing how much is hidden from public eye, what would cause a person to not have a doubt?
What I'd really like to know is when the trails first popped up compared to when cirrus clouds were discovered. I don't really recall seeing these pre-2000. Now the sky is littered.
And how could these ice crystals just loiter the sky for hours on end at a time?
Why do these trails, which are under the force of gravity, stay in the sky for hours?
originally posted by: alienscot1
What people may be seeing often is Cloud seeding. Cloud seeding can be done by ground generators, plane, or rocket. Cloud seeding chemicals may be dispersed by aircraft . Usually silver iodide is used, however NASA does use Lithium vapour trails from rockets launched. www.nasa.gov...
Cloud seeding, a form of weather modification, is the attempt to change the amount or type of precipitation that falls from clouds, by dispersing substances into the air that serve as cloud condensation or ice nuclei, which alter the microphysical processes within the cloud. The usual intent is to increase precipitation (rain or snow), but hail and fog suppression are also widely practiced in airports.en.wikipedia.org...
An interesting list of Patents can be found here www.geoengineeringwatch.org...
What is being put into our atmosphere and by whom is anybodies guess.
Just like cirrus clouds, really.
You do know what a cirrus cloud is, right? That'd be another really good starting point, and it'd be really helpful if we could at least agree on that.
edit on 8201617 by payt69 because: (no reason given)
How about this? We don't insult each other, as there is no need to, since I kinda think we're on the same side. Yes, I know what cirrus clouds are.
Frankly, I see contrails from jets everyday, all the time, and they don't make much sense, in terms of where a jet would be flying, gaining altitude, traveling horizontally, etc.....
But I'm not really interested in having this argument about chemtrails or not, for this reason: It seems to me very clear that we are experiencing chemtrails. We have lots and lots of pics in different geographies that don't match commercial jet flight patterns. I'm already a believer and knower. But I think the argument is specious and silly.
Of course commercial jets leave a contrail. Is it a purposeful "Chemtrail," well we'll never know nor be able to prove such.....
But it doesn't take much to believe, as in even if the contrails are spewing fuel byproducts not intended to do damage to the human populous, the flight pattern and fallout from what I've already described probably leaves little doubt.....
yet, I feel it's a useless, baiting argument to make one look like a conspiracy believing, paranoid fool, and so, rarely get involved in it....
originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: tetra50
You seem confused, CGI is not something one can live in, it is art, created on a computer.