Did Fallen Angels slept with the grandchildren of Adam & Eve?

originally posted by: Matrixsurvivor
a reply to: xstealth

It's because you don't understand it read Gen 6:6 and then Numbers 13:33 and you'll understand it was a war between blood lines, the non pure blooded humans had to be wiped out.

Except for when there were virgin women in those non pure blood lines.

Numbers 31:15-19New American Standard Bible (NASB)

15 And Moses said to them, “Have you spared all the women? 16 Behold, these caused the sons of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, so the plague was among the congregation of the Lord. 17 Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. 18 But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.

Also, there were many times that the animals were all killed, as well. What did they do to inspire Yahweh's wrath??

Perhaps because they were not carrying nonhuman offspring.

originally posted by: Rapha

originally posted by: xstealth
the non pure blooded humans had to be wiped out.

Hitler had exactly the same regime ideals whilst constructing the gas chambers and incinerators at Auschwitz.

Amazing how history just keeps repeating itself. Now its the elite buying superhuman genealogy whilst the poor peasants starve to death.

Isn't Yahweh, a god of life supposed to protect his little human peasants ?
So it seems the following picture is of non-humans because their chances in life are zero thanks to Yahweh's elite banksters.

It sounds like you don't understand what "non-pure blooded HUMANS" mean. And why that was important.

You can not compare Hitler's killing of humans to the Bibles killing of half breed humans and animals.

originally posted by: xstealth
You can not compare Hitler's killing of humans to the Bibles killing of half breed humans and animals.

Why not ? Those who live by the sword, die by the sword.
Always Judge a entity by the Fruits that is bares. Or is your god, 'Do as i say, not as i do'.

Dictators that live by mass killing, burn in the Lake of Fire for eternity. The Great Flood would never have happened if Yahweh used his little brain and imprisoned Lucifer before the Apple of Knowledge event occurred.

i can judge failures that allowed a traitor (Lucifer) to start the mess on Day 6 via the Apple of Knowledge event. Every peasant now has the right to judge evil entities.

If Yahweh is such a Mr Know It All, how come, if he already knew the future, not see a traitor officer in the Garden of Eden ?

Oh, unless, Lucifer and Yahweh are brothers or the same entity living off Wars and Rumours of Wars 24/7.

originally posted by: Rapha
Dictators that live by mass killing, burn in the Lake of Fire for eternity.

Oh the irony. The massmurderous dictators have massmurderous dictators to top themselves making sure that those who brought about massacres are properly massacred. Downward spiral, they should put a stop to this madness, or else soon there will be banners with «save the nazis» all over town and radios messing on about how the poor nazis and communists are tossed into volcanoes by the hippies....

originally posted by: Rapha

originally posted by: xstealth
You can not compare Hitler's killing of humans to the Bibles killing of half breed humans and animals.

Why not ? Those who live by the sword, die by the sword.
Always Judge a entity by the Fruits that is bares. Or is your god, 'Do as i say, not as i do'.

peace, love, joy, soup kitchens, homeless shelters, hospitals, Mother Theresa, public education (Old Deluder Satan Act),untold individual acts of love. Win.

Dictators that live by mass killing, burn in the Lake of Fire for eternity. The Great Flood would never have happened if Yahweh used his little brain and imprisoned Lucifer before the Apple of Knowledge event occurred.

as addressed, He gives us freedom to make mistakes. He gave early man many generations to repent and they refused. I see God criticized for allowing evil in the first place, and then criticized for punishing same.

i can judge failures that allowed a traitor (Lucifer) to start the mess on Day 6 via the Apple of Knowledge event. Every peasant now has the right to judge evil entities.

If Yahweh is such a Mr Know It All, how come, if he already knew the future, not see a traitor officer in the Garden of Eden ?

Oh, unless, Lucifer and Yahweh are brothers or the same entity living off Wars and Rumours of Wars 24/7.

as previously mentioned, God allows us to make mistakes, and He allows us time to repent. I took advantage of His amnesty. I hope you will too. He's patient, but He will not strive with man indefinitely.

originally posted by: Matrixsurvivor

originally posted by: ElGoobero
don't have time to address all points but here's some

1)

from Rapha "So if the ultimate Mr know it all Yehovah, who knows the past, present and future; how come He didn't see the complete and utter disaster that occurred after His initially successful start to Day 6 ? Unless of course Yahweh is an alien that feeds of fear, misery, suffering and death which explains where Divide & Conquer originated from."

He knew. He gives us free will. If we're not free to make mistakes we're not free. The good news is, someday the bad stuff will end.

2)

from muffenstuff "Israelites were Canaanites, worshipped Babylonian God's and took Baal back to Israel and changed his name to Yahweh and wrote a religion based on him after Babylon."

Um, no. Among other differences, Yahweh did not accept cultic prostitution. Nor were His priests encouraged to cut themselves. The Judeo-Christian God shed His blood so we wouldn't have to.

3)

from Rapha "Justice wins on Judgement Day where every entity that has held mortal humans back in the dark ages for the past 2 centuries, will be judged by the peasants and damned to the Lake of Fire. Yehovah threw a hissy fit against that man who buried his 1 single talent in the sand. Yet He is INCAPABLE of dishing out Justice against His elite goons who have buried millions of talents, worldwide, since the financial collapse of 2008."

Again, God allows us freedom to make mistakes. Rest assured, the elite financial goons will face judgment. See James 5:1-7

4)

from ConstruktionofLight "Well until you get to the misogynist St Paul, not much love there, ...the fifth columnist of the Old Roman Empire..."

Read the 13h chapter of 1 Corinthians and you'll see that Paul was indeed pro-love.
5)

from ConstruktionofLight "So if the flood destroyed their bodies and yet their spirit walks the earth - then likewise when man dies his spirit walks the earth? What sort of god would allow resurrection of man after death and yet keep the fallen captive on this earth to do more mischief?" in re; Nephilim / demonic posession

Who says man's spirit walks the earth? My understanding it goes to a place of rest, either Sheol, or Abraham's Bosom. As for the Nephilim / posession, I don't know. It isn't specifically addressed, and is a theory so might not be true.
6)

from ConstruktionofLight "and yet you flood every religious thread with the same ol...you completely ignore such minorissues like infanticide/human sacrifice
If the root is tainted how can the branch be holy?
How can the New Testament have any allegiance to the Lofty Jealous Homicidal Mountain god of the Canaanites/Israelites?
Only by the State enforced Sword of the Old Roman Empire was Pauline Christianity allowed to flourish. The evidence is in plain sight that Easter and Xmas are celebrated on Pagan holy days.

JudeoChristianity put an end to infanticide and human sacrifice.
Not many homocidal jealous mountain gods would give such instructions as 'love your neighbor', 'love your enemies' or 'as much as possible with you live at peace with your neighbor'.
It's unfortunate that the church in the late Roman Empire imposed itself by force. Of course first they had to endure a few generations of persecution and martyrdom from the same empire.
7)

from ConstruktionofLight "But that fails on its own logic - if women were so attractive to the angels why weren't all the angels in physical bodies -
secondly...
As the flood approached they had plenty of time to jump out of their skins."

Only a few angels took Human form (the instructors, as mentioned in previous post). perhaps they did jump skins; I was addressing their offspring, the Nephilim, not the angels in human bodies.
8)

from Rapha "Isn't Yahweh, a god of life supposed to protect his little human peasants ?
So it seems the following picture is of non-humans because their chances in life are zero thanks to Yahweh's elite banksters."

God constantly instructs His servants to help the poor. What makes you think 'Yahweh's elite bankers' have anything to do with the kids in the picture? They might just as easily be Sudan residents being starved by muslims, or Zimbabweans opressed by kleptocrats like Mugabe.

You are blind and indoctrinated.

(lol) but am I wrong?
guess we'll find out one day

a reply to: ElGoobero

JudeoChristianity put an end to infanticide and human sacrifice. Not many homocidal jealous mountain gods would give such instructions as 'love your neighbor', 'love your enemies' or 'as much as possible with you live at peace with your neighbor'.

They sanitized the mountain god jehovah...but he still needed a blood sacrifice, jesus...

originally posted by: ElGoobero
I took advantage of His amnesty. I hope you will too.

Sounds like a touch of fear factor doom porn with Obey Yahweh, or else !!!.

So if you 'hope i will', then there has to be a reason like you know 100% what the word infinity feels like in any of the four main hells (Sheol, Tartarus, Hades, Lake).

If not, then your hope is just words. If He lets the elite get their way; then by the end of this year everyone will be pretty much dead with radiation sickness from a nuclear war. What is the point of His amnesty, when the war is going to make Revelation 16:10 a reality for the entire 7 Year Tribulation. No sunlight, no plants. No plants, no food.

If you live next to a Twinkie factory, 7 years is possible seeing that those things do not decay. The problem is, everyone else will see you as a walking giant glowing green Twinkie with 'Eat Me' scratched on your forehead.

a reply to: ElGoobero

(lol) but am I wrong?

I used to be you. It's not even remotely funny, either.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: ElGoobero

JudeoChristianity put an end to infanticide and human sacrifice. Not many homocidal jealous mountain gods would give such instructions as 'love your neighbor', 'love your enemies' or 'as much as possible with you live at peace with your neighbor'.

They sanitized the mountain god jehovah...but he still needed a blood sacrifice, jesus...

wages of sin. God had to make it serious or no one would care. imagine the murder rate if the penalty was a $10 fine. The good news is, it's made and paid. Thanks Jesus!

Rapha, one person's doom porn is another's fair warning. When I get raptured and you see WWIII @ Armageddon you can't say you weren't told.
I really wish you guys would reconsider God & Christianity. Pretty hard to keep a belief system going for 2000 years, especially when frequently persecuted, without something real to offer. Easy to have faith in the USA or Europe, but imagine what my brothers and sisters in Russia or China go through.


Matrixsurvivor, we all give up on God sometimes, but remember He never gives up on us. I hope you'll give the faith another look.

a reply to: ElGoobero

Matrixsurvivor, we all give up on God sometimes, but remember He never gives up on us. I hope you'll give the faith another look.

Tell that to the millions of starving children in this world, or the abused ones, or the horrific way we treat other sentient beings for food, or maybe tell that to the person who is born with a deformity or incurable illness. It's like being told..."yea, I made this world, I let the rabid dog in the "back door" to give you all "a choice". Your first parents (mainly the woman), screwed it all up. NOW you are all tainted with something you have no control over. But hey, I'm giving you a way out. I'm going to send my Son, who will die on your behalf. Now, you have to believe I did all this to save you from, well, Myself...but, if you do BELIEVE and trust in that, then hey, I won't send you to hell and torment you forever. Ain't I a grand guy?? Oh, and you will worship me forever and ever in Heaven, IF you make the correct choice.
I'm sorry, but if there is a "Higher Being", this planet isn't His/It/Whatever's.
This planet is predatory, plain and simple. So, you think a GOOD, LOVING, Creator would make it so animals eat one another, or tell us to eat them, as well? Or tell "His people" to offer blood and sling it all over an altar to appease him??
Or, tell Abraham to offer his son as a sacrifice?
WOULD YOU offer your child as a sacrifice (if "God told you to)???
The whole blood sacrificial system is a lie. It's permeated throughout Judaism and Christianity.
WHY would a God that can create billions of universes, really give a rat's butt if you slit a baby lambs throat to atone for sin? Seriously?
I believed the Bible, hook, line and sinker for over two decades. Even had the "rapture" bumper stickers and the stupid fish on my vehicle. It's all such utter BS. Do you know what's so sad? Your "giddiness" over being "caught up", while believing billions of people down here (probably decent people in much of them) will be mercilessly slaughtered.
That doesn't strike you as just a tad heartless, does it?

a reply to: Matrixsurvivor

I suspect that . . .

contrary to surface appearances of your posts . . .

that your antipathy toward Yehovah

had nothing to do with the argument points you make . . .

but had virtually everything to do with

your balking at what He was asking of you . . .

&/or . . . . at what He was pointing to that you needed to change or clean up.

He has an incredible knack for putting His finger on precisely the major thing we have made an idol of . . . or drawn a line in the sand about . . . in our relationship with Him.

His wisdom knows . . . He MUST be supreme . . . else the whole thing falls apart for kowtowing to lesser values, priorities, forces.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: Matrixsurvivor

I suspect that . . .

contrary to surface appearances of your posts . . .

that your antipathy toward Yehovah

had nothing to do with the argument points you make . . .

but had virtually everything to do with

your balking at what He was asking of you . . .

&/or . . . . at what He was pointing to that you needed to change or clean up.

He has an incredible knack for putting His finger on precisely the major thing we have made an idol of . . . or drawn a line in the sand about . . . in our relationship with Him.

His wisdom knows . . . He MUST be supreme . . . else the whole thing falls apart for kowtowing to lesser values, priorities, forces.

So, you have me all figured out. Um, no.. "He" didn't ask anything of me that I said "no" to. But, in order to understand how I came to be in this place, you would have to ask, rather than assuming you know. Haven't done that, have you? I just get lumped into "rebelliousness". Lovely.
Come to think of it...I have rebelled against him. Or, at least against what I finally realized he was like.
Actually, everything I've posted IS why I can't believe he's good, along with numerous others in here that can see it too, as well as done much research into their misgivings. Some are ex-Christians, such as myself.

a reply to: BO XIAN

I also find it interesting how none of the fundamental Christians on here ever address any of the things I point out.

a reply to: Matrixsurvivor

Why does a good God allow bad things? This question has been asked as long as man has walked the earth. There is no simple answer to it.
God gave us Eden and we contaminated it with sin. We were warned that sin would lead to death. God never intended all this bad to happen. As I mentioned, He gives us free will, and sometimes we do bad stuff. Should he smack us down when we're fourteen and trip a schoolmate? He gives us all time to repent. Some accept the offer, some don't.
Please keep in mind that it's all temporary. This age will end (maybe before too long). There will be no suffering or misery in eternity when God establishes his throne in Heaven and on earth.
I knew a Christian brother who was paralyzed in an accident and was in a wheelchair for thirty years. He made his peace with God and used to say, what did it matter since he would have forever to use his new perfect body after death. I agree, look at him with man's eyes and it's an awful tragedy. Everyone suffers in this world, some more than others. I don't understand a lot of it myself. I just try to give God the benefit of the doubt and look to the next world with hope.

ps; we've all rebelled against God at some point in our lives. At least you are aware enough to admit it!

a reply to: Matrixsurvivor


What you see today is the virtue of Our dreams and goals set into a system..... Not Gods.

The problem is that we blame God for Our mistakes. Just like we blame the presiden for all the crap we do for him.

I gues its Gods fault that its Trumph and Hillary who are the two main clows who made it to the top.. out of 321 million Americans.

a reply to: ElGoobero

God gave us Eden and we contaminated it with sin. We were warned that sin would lead to death.

God never gave us Eden.

God never gave us Adam and Eve.

- That was Lord God work in Genesis Chapter 2.

God created the Heaven and the Earth......

God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

God created man on the 6th day. God created them as male and female. "Genesis Chapter 1".

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Man was created by God before Lord God formed Adam of the dust on the ground.

Adam and Eve broke the laws made by Lord God, Not Gods laws. But the Irony is that Lords God had created something else as well:

"Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made".

This Lord God is not the God of genesis Chapter 1.

Adam and Eve were fromed and set up to fail by their own creator for a future purpose. Which we are experiencing today.

originally posted by: BO XIAN
a reply to: Matrixsurvivor

I suspect that . . .

contrary to surface appearances of your posts . . .

that your antipathy toward Yehovah

had nothing to do with the argument points you make . . .

but had virtually everything to do with

your balking at what He was asking of you . . .

&/or . . . . at what He was pointing to that you needed to change or clean up.

He has an incredible knack for putting His finger on precisely the major thing we have made an idol of . . . or drawn a line in the sand about . . . in our relationship with Him.

His wisdom knows . . . He MUST be supreme . . . else the whole thing falls apart for kowtowing to lesser values, priorities, forces.

Do you want to know what I see as TRUE "lesser values"? Blood sacrifice of ANYTHING. A God who annihalates someone for the slightest infraction. A God who uses fear to get obedience. A God who condemned those who have no choice in how they were hardwired at birth. A God who can watch a child slowly starve to death and do nothing. A God who created a world where animals kill one another and also tells man to kill and eat them. A God who say's " Thou shall not kill", yet orders his supposed people to do just that...without mercy.
You see, despite all of the above, I don't hurt animals, like gay people, and pretty much all those who Yahweh said weren't acceptable to him. He's an imposter God, Boxian. If you are going to look for the true God, Jesus is a pretty good representation of Him.

a reply to: Matrixsurvivor

A God who annihalate someone for the slightest infraction.

I don't see that at all in the OT. He is extremely patient, look at the example of the Caananites. They were absurdly wicked and God gave them 400 years to straighten up before they were judged.

originally posted by: NOTurTypical
a reply to: Matrixsurvivor

A God who annihalate someone for the slightest infraction.

I don't see that at all in the OT. He is extremely patient, look at the example of the Caananites. They were absurdly wicked and God gave them 400 years to straighten up before they were judged.

Absurbly wicked (to me) is killing something innocent. Did Yahweh do that? Ever? Yes...many, many, times. But, Christians wiggle around that fact. You tell me...does he kill innocents? Does he command the death of innocents? Do not go down another rabbit trail...just answer the question straight up.