Melania's RNC speech versus Michelle Obama's DNC speech

a reply to: neo96

I just hope her skin is as thick as she says it is and she comes out with the gloves off...

originally posted by: LSU0408
a reply to: Sillyolme

And it's not the first time we've heard this when in relation to family values, hard work, and the vision of the future of our children. The other 14 minutes of her speech is conveniently overlooked even though the message was great. Maybe that's why it's overlooked, eh?

If I give a 15 minute speech and somewhere in that speech, I want to mention that I prefer the red Dodge Ram crew cab short bed pickup truck with a Hemi, 20 inch wheels, dual exhaust and leather seats, I can't omit it just because a guy I'm not politically involved with said he prefers the Dodge Ram pickup truck with a short bed, dual exhaust, 5.7L Hemi crew cab in red.

And what you're saying here, resonates in this following article:
dcgazette.com...#

Here are the comments from Michelle Obama in 2008: And Barack and I were raised with so many of the same values: that you work hard for what you want in life; that your word is your bond and you do what you say you’re going to do; that you treat people with dignity and respect, even if you don’t know them, and even if you don’t agree with them. And Barack and I set out to build lives guided by these values, and pass them on to the next generation. Because we want our children — and all children in this nation — to know that the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work for them. Melania Trump’s speech: From a young age, my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life. That your word is your bond, that you do what you say and keep your promise. That you treat people with respect. They taught and showed me values and morals in their daily life. That is a lesson that I continue to pass along to or son. And we need to pass those lessons on to the many generations to follow. Because we want our children in this nation to know that the only limit is the strength of your dreams and your willingness to work for them. Did Melania use a few sentences that were similar to Michelle Obama’s speech? Sure, but that is common. ALL First Lady speeches resonate the same universal concepts. The fact is, you can go back and look at Laura Bush’s speech, Nancy Reagan, and even Hillary when she was first lady and find the same type of comments. In a speech Hillary Clinton gave in 2014 for the New American foundation. Hillary spoke of the same values saying, ” my mother and father gave us a middle-class life with opportunities she never could have imagined for herself but which she always believed could be possible for her children. And that was a great gift that I will be forever grateful for, and then Bill and I of course worked hard to pass on those values to our daughter.” (In other words, passing on values to the next generation, like Michelle Obama said in 2008.) Laura Bush said in her 2004 RNC speech, “If you’re determined and you want to work hard, you can do anything you want to. That’s the beautiful thing about America.” (The same concept of Michelle Obama’s speech in 2008.) Even Ann Romney’s speech hit the same notes in 2012 “Mitt will be the first to tell you that he is the most fortunate man in the world. He had two loving parents who gave him strong values and taught him the value of work.” Hillary is actually the biggest offender when it comes to plagiarism, she plagiarized Bernie Sanders so often that the hashtag #StealTheBern was born. Obama plagiarized Bush nearly word for word in 2014, but the liberal media didn’t seem to have a problem with that. Every 4 years, a first lady, or potential first lady, stands on stage at their convention and talks about the same subjects: upbringing, values and family. In fact, 90% of what we hear this week will probably be rehashed and resaid at the DNC. They’ll just spin it around to be all about race, class warfare, illegal immigrants and insulting police, of course.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Obama's husband can't string 3 words together coherently

Apparently not, he is doesn't exist. And are you making a dig at her muscles?

Nice.

Huh? No, I mean Barack Obama, Michelle Obama's husband, has to use a teleprompter to make even the simplest of public statements or he becomes a bumbling, stuttering retard.

Apparently you haven't been watching the two Donald Trump's in recent months.....He has taken a liking to Tele-Prompters...and though he might not engage in the occasionally painful long thoughtful pauses while off-prompter...he very much suffers from the reverse, a turrets like impulse to say crazy things ranging from racist to just wildly stupid...Drop NATO, Lock up women who have abortions, David Duke..hmmm, Give everyone nukes...etc. etc. etc.

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: LSU0408

Let's just hope that it was sincere this time.

Sincerity based on theft doesn't count for much

Right... But maybe this time the sincerity is real. Obviously is wasn't the second time, as the last 8 years have shown us.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Indigo5

I am saying that if this is the biggest beef Trump critics have got.

Oh lord no...I am saying that if you have to use the defense of "if this is the biggest beef Trump critics have got..." Once a day during the campaign, your candidate might have serious issue.

People like to cite Joe Biden's plagiarism...Mind you, it was in college with a paper he turned in, he admitted it and apologized and STILL it was a big reason he dropped out of the race.

But in the Trump campaign?...Just another day...and that "just another day" part is the issue with him.

Unapologetic dishonesty is the norm, not the exception with Trump.

a reply to: -Blackout-

Correct. And watch as this part comes true...

"In fact, 90% of what we hear this week will probably be rehashed and resaid at the DNC. They’ll just spin it around to be all about race, class warfare, illegal immigrants and insulting police, of course."

a reply to: Indigo5

But in the Trump campaign?...Just another day...and that "just another day" part is the issue with him.

Unapologetic dishonesty is the norm, not the exception with Trump.

Or just another day of you overdosing on a biased media, one or the other.

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: LSU0408

Let's just hope that it was sincere this time.

Sincerity based on theft doesn't count for much

Right... But maybe this time the sincerity is real.

I think the fact that the campaign needed to plagiarize someone's else's words around the topics of hard work, integrity and morals is both ironic and telling.

a reply to: Indigo5

You've condemned Melania guilty of plagiarism with nothing more than speculation to back up your claims.

So no one is getting fired because of this. Awesome. My 8th grade English teacher has higher standards than a major candidate for the most important job in the world.

The next election is going to be way less interesting than this one. I'll be sad when it ends and we have the beast in office.

a reply to: BrokedownChevy

So no one is getting fired because of this. Awesome. My 8th grade English teacher has higher standards than a major candidate for the most important job in the world.

The next election is going to be way less interesting than this one. I'll be sad when it ends and we have the beast in office.

Higher standards than Martin Luther King as well apparently. Your teacher sounds fantastic.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Indigo5

But in the Trump campaign?...Just another day...and that "just another day" part is the issue with him.

Unapologetic dishonesty is the norm, not the exception with Trump.

Or just another day of you overdosing on a biased media, one or the other.

The Plagiarism charge is hardly "bias" with the head of the RNC acknowledging the same and suggesting a speech writer should be fired?

But of course I understand what you are encouraging...Aspiring to be a willfully un-informed voter is the best option for those fatally wed to the GOP train wreck.

The important thing to keep in mind is that Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are both snakes in the grass. Pick the one that you feel is least lethal to your personal future.

originally posted by: BrokedownChevy
So no one is getting fired because of this. Awesome. My 8th grade English teacher has higher standards than a major candidate for the most important job in the world.

The next election is going to be way less interesting than this one. I'll be sad when it ends and we have the beast in office.

I believe someone will take the blame for this, unless it was her own fault.

Overall, this is not what Trump needed to happen at this particular time. He needed the convention to go smoothly and ride the wave of positive polling that usually follows.

Now that may not happen.

Also, it appears this issue is getting as much press, of not more, than the Hillary bashing last night.

a reply to: LSU0408

Right... But maybe this time the sincerity is real. Obviously is wasn't the second time, as the last 8 years have shown us.

The last 8 years have obviously shown you and me completely different things. So, for starters - let's just not assume

Michelle Obama has always been a class act as far as I'm concerned

American politics is not a game - and no matter how bizarre this election might look to any (or all) of us - little things are not ever going to be little things for long

I have no idea how much blame I'm willing to place on Melania - she is part of a very large operation and I'm guessing not being a team player isn't an option. Even if she wanted to opt out. Being the wife of a dictator might have come with a few perks - but an awful lot of pain as well

I always wonder about Asma Assad...

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: LSU0408

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: LSU0408

Let's just hope that it was sincere this time.

Sincerity based on theft doesn't count for much

Right... But maybe this time the sincerity is real.

I think the fact that the campaign needed to plagiarize someone's else's words around the topics of hard work, integrity and morals is both ironic and telling.

Whatever man. When you're expressing family values, hard work, and the future of our children, there's only so many different ways to word it. I'll just chalk this up as anti-Trump people digging to find negativity where it'll hurt Trump the most. I think it's #ing pathetic that suddenly it's a big deal but you'll never recognize anything other than negativity when it comes to Trump.

Because of this every media outlet is posting this speech and putting the spotlight on Melania, every news channel has been covering this non-stop all day, it's even replaced the Nice attack and police shootings. Her message is now out in full force.

originally posted by: Indigo5

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Indigo5

But in the Trump campaign?...Just another day...and that "just another day" part is the issue with him.

Unapologetic dishonesty is the norm, not the exception with Trump.

Or just another day of you overdosing on a biased media, one or the other.

The Plagiarism charge is hardly "bias" with the head of the RNC acknowledging the same and suggesting a speech writer should be fired?

But of course I understand what you are encouraging...Aspiring to be a willfully un-informed voter is the best option for those fatally wed to the GOP train wreck.

Really? Finding four sentences in a 15 minute speech and not condemning it as plagiarism is aspiring to be willfully uninformed?