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Japan's top court has approved blanket surveillance of the country's Muslims

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posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

If you belong to any hate group ( KKK, BLM, Islam, etc.) you should be heavily monitored and if not already a citizen you should be denied entrance.

Before you say Islam is not a hate group, let me remind you that they have their own set of segregationist and "Jim Crow" style laws for non-Muslims.

Not to mention their outright hatred and malevolent feelings toward Jews.
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posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 04:47 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

I wouldn't go down that rabbit hole my friend.
If we look at crime statistics the way to get the biggest bang for unconsitutional buck would be to have surveillance on black males.
surveillance on registered gun owners would have little effect except on suicides.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: syrinx high priest

Logic Fail.

During the horrendous period of the civil rights movement the rights of black people were severely curtailed and it didn't affect whites one bit.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: neo96

A background check is not the same thing as 24/7 surveillance of someone neo, even you should know that.

But to entertain your example here I'll use your own logic against you. Why is it different for Muslims than it is for gun owners? All mass shooters are gun owners just as (in your opinion) all terrorists are Muslim so why are you against background checks for everyone looking to buy a gun?



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 04:50 PM
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originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: harvestdog

Good for Japan? So because a minority under the guise of Islam commit terrible acts you think all, almost, 2 billion Muslims worldwide are guilty of terrorism? That is so completely ignorant.


And you know what those extremists use to perpetrate their acts?

They use



Muslim places of worship, halal restaurants and Islam-related organisations


There is a good reason the FBI and other agencies keep tabs on things like cults, because they tend to find easy ways to manipulate fragile human minds to do bad things.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 04:51 PM
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Remember if you're not White, Christian and Straight...small government does not apply to you.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 04:51 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: awareness10

Yet you completely ignored the proof I posted. I don't understand your logic here. Either you want the proof or you want to ignore it.


No i just don't believe it.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 04:52 PM
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a reply to: abe froman

And they kill other muslisms more than anyone else.

Also not sure what your point with pedophiles was other than just another jab at their religion. Then again I don't expect much more in threads like this these days. It isn't about reason, is just about making sure we label all these people and dehumanize them as much as we can because some minority of them is causing terror.
White peopl commit most white collar crime, and lots of sexual assault, lets make sure we spy on all of them too. You guys won't care, profiling is good!



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: abe froman



The vast majority of Muslims that aren't physically perpetrating the acts are supporting them monetarily and philosophically and refuse to condemn them.


What an ignorant statement. The majority of peaceful Muslims (which are a majority of Muslims) condemn ISIS and what they are doing.

In nations with significant Muslim populations, much disdain for ISIS


In no country surveyed did more than 15% of the population show favorable attitudes toward Islamic State. And in those countries with mixed religious and ethnic populations, negative views of ISIS cut across these lines.


Please stop stating lies and assumptions as if they are fact.


Japan has a naturally xenophobic population. Its their country as people like to tel us all the time. If they want to spy on them let em.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 04:55 PM
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A background check is not the same thing as 24/7 surveillance of someone neo, even you should know that.


Right.

It's 24/7 surveillance depending how long they have lived.




Why is it different for Muslims than it is for gun owners?


I don't see a background check to see if they are good muslims.

There is certainly no tax stamps on prayer rugs.

They are not limited to how many words they can say at one time when they pray.

There are most certainly no limitations by how many words their prayers can hold.

Yeah there is a logic FAIL here.

by the pushers of background checks.

Muslims are most certainly not treated like gun owners.

Everyone knows it.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 04:56 PM
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originally posted by: muse7
Remember if you're not White, Christian and Straight...small government does not apply to you.


Says the people that push no fly no buy, gun control, climate change and think critics of it should be prosecuted.


(post by JoeLowUSA removed for a manners violation)

posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

What are your ideas regarding stopping terrorist attacks besides opening our borders and disarming?

How do you propose we pay to house and feed these people when we can't house and feed our own?

Remember "Offer solutions, not problems."

You think we in the west are the ones profiling these " migrants" ?

The rest of the middle east won't let ANY of them in.


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posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 05:04 PM
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a reply to: harvestdog

Good on Japan? Really?



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: JoeLowUSA

Someone truly enlightened would give up their food stamps and welfare to one of these migrants.

I understand lots of people in the UK were forced to give up their council flats to make room for the immigrants.

If some enlightened person got kicked out of their public housing and became homeless so some immigrant can move in that would be some hilarious cosmic justice right there.

Only an idiot would think "since you're paying for my stuff, you can pay for their stuff too."



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: muse7
Remember if you're not White, Christian and Straight...small government does not apply to you.


I just had a look at your Twitter and it all make sense. I'd likely view society much the same as you if I was from your side of the tracks. Live it up.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 05:07 PM
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originally posted by: harvestdog
a reply to: Swills

Here's where I stand: I have no problem targeting muslims for surveillance other than the fact there are so many of them the data gets lost.

Islam is a political tool masqueraded as a religion. The koran and sunna are full of values that are not compatible with freedom.

All muslims are to live as muhammed. All one has to do, is learn what a swell guy he was. Now imagine him ruling over you if you won't submit to allah. No thanks.

BTW, I believe most muslims to be ignorant of their own faith. They read the uthman koran which was created to confuse the reader. I also take it they don't study the hadith and sira with their uthman koran.

That does not make them any less dangerous in my mind. They are devoted to allah, they just need to be shown what he wants them to do with the kafirs.


You are as wrong as when you said "Yeah, it's messed up how homosexuals hijacked the word 'gay'."



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 05:08 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
According to Wikipedia, Japan has only 100,000 Muslims.


Yes, they are very careful with immigration standards and refuse to destroy their culture. I can get behind that. What I wonder about though is how hentai and tentacle porn fit into that culture?

Cheers - Dave



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 05:09 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Heil authoritarianism! Let's praise big government whIle at the same time complaining it's too big!

This is the equivalent of surveilling all white male gun owners because the majority of mass shootings are done by them. I bet if that's what was happening the same people praising this decision would be crying about it.

Such is the case with double-think though. "1984" is just around the corner and I feel like this is one of the main steps toward such a system being implemented.


Absolutely correct. Cognitive dissonance at it's finest.



posted on Jun, 30 2016 @ 05:11 PM
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originally posted by: abe froman
Good for Japan.

Let's ignore the FACT that over 90% of terrorist acts are committed by Muslims and use the bs line "not all Muslims are terrorists".

The vast majority of Muslims that aren't physically perpetrating the acts are supporting them monetarily and philosophically and refuse to condemn them.

Not all snakes are poisonous but you don't put any of them in a crib with a newborn.

Anybody that keeps snakes keeps them caged and for good reason.



Proof for that?



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