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Clinton hacker ‘Guccifer’ expected to plead guilty

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posted on May, 30 2016 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: IAMTAT

Ok but he pleaded guilty to every count so he didn't make any deal.
Plus there was never any evidence that he had anything. That is all internet rumor. There is not one shred of evidence to support his claim. And you guys are the only ones who believe he has these files.


please tell me you're for real

please !!

Do you have a reason to think the court documents are false?



This isn't facebook or the MSNBC comment section !!




posted on May, 30 2016 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Sillyolme


Ok but he pleaded guilty to every count so he didn't make any deal.


Hello? McFly? Can you not read?


The United States of America, by and through the undersigned attorneys, hereby moves this honorable Court to dismiss Counts 1-4, 6, and 8-9 against defendant MARCEL LEMEL LAZAR, in accordance with the written plea agreement entered into between the United States and defendant, upon the Court's acceptance of defendant's guilty plea to Counts 5 and 7 in the Indictment.


Criminal No. I:l4-cr-213
Honorable James C. Cacheris
direct .pdf link


I'm reporting you for name calling.



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 02:31 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I'm real.



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 02:31 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I want to read all of that. What's your source. Mine was the dept of justice.



www.justice.gov...

this doesn't say any exclusions


You can quote the parts that support your statements right?




posted on May, 30 2016 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme




The FBI is looking to get Lazar to help them establish their case that Clinton’s server may have been breached by hackers. This could earn Lazar a plea agreement which would give him a reduced sentence. Guccifer says he is willing to cooperate with the US government. He claims to have hidden 2 GB of confidential data which he adds is a matter of national security.

www.hackersnewsbulletin.com...



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

If it makes you feel better, go for it. Maybe I should have reported you for hurling profanity at me in the past, but I figured it would serve no purpose as words on an internet forum have only the value and power I give them; and yours are growing less valuable with each post.



The facts are that Guccifer has entered in to a plea bargain with the United State government. As part of the agreement, the majority of the charges are being dismissed and he is being granted immunity from further prosecution. He has agreed to answer truthfully and completely all questuons he may be asked and to provide any and all relevant records in whatever format they might exist.

Now unless you can find an actual, more recent, court order showing where this is not the case your insistence upon claiming he is still facing all charges brought against him is fantasy.
edit on 30-5-2016 by jadedANDcynical because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 02:52 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I want to read all of that. What's your source. Mine was the dept of justice.



www.justice.gov...

this doesn't say any exclusions


Um... the first paragraph says:

"Marcel Lehel Lazar, 44, of Arad, Romania, a hacker who used the online moniker “Guccifer,” pleaded guilty today to unauthorized access to a protected computer and aggravated identity theft."

Sounds like two charges only. Hmmm.

Good source! Backs up what j&c has been saying!




posted on May, 30 2016 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I want to read all of that. What's your source. Mine was the dept of justice.



www.justice.gov...

this doesn't say any exclusions


By the way, here is a thread I authored regarding the court filing.



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 03:04 PM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I want to read all of that. What's your source. Mine was the dept of justice.



www.justice.gov...

this doesn't say any exclusions


By the way, here is a thread I authored regarding the court filing.


OP of linked post is a biased source, please ignore.

Eta: j/k go read it
edit on 5/30/2016 by atomish because: Edit lest the kids don't get their learnings!



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 03:23 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Thank you. The page I got didn't include this.



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

The court documents don't say he had any Clinton information either. Still speculating on what the terms are.
Hillary is still not backing out or turning tail and hiding so I'm thinking there's still no crime that she committed and she's not worried.



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: xuenchen

The court documents don't say he had any Clinton information either. Still speculating on what the terms are.
Hillary is still not backing out or turning tail and hiding so I'm thinking there's still no crime that she committed and she's not worried.


The court docs only address the plea bargain.

The info the FBI has from "The Gucci" are part of the ongoing investigation and not public (yet).

And remember some docs are already sealed by the court.

Wink Wink.



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 04:04 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

You're right, the released court documents do not mention the Clinton case.

Remember. There are still two other documents that were filed under seal.

And you're also correct that she isn't dropping out or turning tail.

Instead, she is applying spin and engaging in massive damage control.

Obviously she still has her supporters who believe her version of events (... ... ...), but when faced with objective and verifiable fact, their arguments crumble.






You're welcome, by the way.




posted on May, 30 2016 @ 04:05 PM
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for more clarity on the plea bargain ....

last page of court docs....


MOTION TO DISMISS COUNTS

The United States of America, by and through the undersigned attorneys, hereby moves
this honorable Court to dismiss Counts 1-4, 6, and 8-9 against defendant MARCEL LEMEL
LAZAR, in accordance with the written plea agreement entered into between the United States
and defendant, upon the Court's acceptance of defendant's guilty plea to Counts 5 and 7 in the
Indictment. A proposed order is attached to this motion.





posted on May, 30 2016 @ 04:23 PM
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I have to chuckle when a Clinton supporter calls someone a liar.
Especially since the State Department IG report came out.



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme


The court documents don't say he had any Clinton information either.


By the way, the court documents do indeed mention Blumenthal, who is directly related to the entire email debacle.

Blumenthal is "Victim 3":




As TSG first reported in March 2013, “Guccifer” illegally accessed the AOL e-mail account of Sidney Blumenthal, who worked as a senior White House adviser to President Bill Clinton, and later became a senior adviser to Hillary Clinton’s 2008 presidential campaign.


the smoking gun



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 06:06 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

Apologies, turns out I was wrong:


originally posted by: xtradimensions
It looks like Bush 43's sister was victim #1. Powell was victim #3. And Blumemthal victim #5. If this article is correct.


AP story regarding victims


Blumenthal is mentioned in the legal paperwork, I was incorrect as to his identification.



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 07:05 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical




If they expected him to be sentenced, then they would have sought an indefinite extradition, no?

america's history of extradition is lamentable, at best.
a refusal to send people, amanda knox would never have served time if the correct decision came through, forcing italy to basically mistrial, hiding ira terrorists.
to demanding extradition on their terms.
no surprise romania gave a short leash here.
if anything sensitive had been obtained, he would have 'disappeared' , however it appears its only low level communications, a short prison stay suits the government, no doubt a book deal with royalties awaiting release for the hacker.

for republicans its a godsend, this is, this years election 'scandal', they will want the trial to drag on.
for democrats, losing a mass of uneducated voters did not truly affect them during the repeated birther indictments, but people are stupid, just look around here! some will believe anything.
they just want this to go away, quickly.
which party holds office?



posted on May, 30 2016 @ 07:42 PM
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a reply to: stinkelbaum

We have quite a few of Mrs.Clintons staff and State Department staff still to be deposed in the FOIA case.

Even if we don't get to see the video.

Judge Emmet G. Sullivan was appointed by Bill Clinton.

Perhaps he is part of a "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"?

Or perhaps Mrs.Clinton has miscalculated badly.





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