Chicago Public Schools Now Forcing Students To Use Requested Transgender Pronouns

a reply to: Deaf Alien

I don't know about fear but my intuition tells me otherwise, and at the very least it is just my opinion and that is not static, even I can change my opinion, but I can read something and weigh it against what I see in the world around me to form that opinion. I don't have a knee jerker going on here, I am saying I do not agree with schools being forced to administer a certain verbiage.

a reply to: Brotherman

I understand. Would you say the same back then in the 60's?

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: queenofswords

So in your scenarios you let fat horny boys in girls' locker rooms?

What? Where do you get that? Are you okay?

a reply to: queenofswords

Another beer. Let's discuss later.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Brotherman

I understand. Would you say the same back then in the 60's?

I don't know, I didn't live that long, I was born in 85 so the 60's, I will just have to take others word for.

a reply to: Brotherman

They said the same thing about black people sharing bathrooms with the rest of us.

originally posted by: Deaf Alien
a reply to: Brotherman

They said the same thing about black people sharing bathrooms with the rest of us.

Holy # at the end of the day its still about a #ing bathroom to you? I think the issue is deeper then a #ing bathroom.

Here's the deal plain and simple. CHILDREN do not think they are the opposite gender unless they are influenced into it.

Hormones decide that, not personal preference. When someone begins puberty they are confused as it is, due to the newly experienced and production of hormones in their body. This bullshlt of kids feeling like they aren't right is just that, BS. They cannot feel that way because they have not developed enough to feel that way, UNLESS an external influence is applied.

Is it really a wonder that children of same-sex parenting are often confused in their sexuality? No. Children develop everything from their immediate surroundings.

Kids really don't care about the bathroom they use unless someone tells them to care about it.

Once puberty is complete they can start realizing their feelings as a sexual individual. I say sexual because it is just that. How the person feels sexually. They may be attracted to the same sex, and that isn't an abomination, but at least at that point in time they realize what they are attracted to and what they feel more comfortable as.

Don't give me the BS that they have to start the hormone therapy early, because it's not true. I someone feels like the opposite sex after completing the pubescent phase of life they can transition without an issue. But to influence it before then is just wrong. It leaves several children completely confused and damaged for life, often leading to suicide.

Stop the damn acceptance of child transgenderism, because it's NOT ok.

My! Aren't we opinionated? The rant forum is on the other side of the board in off topic. I think if you had ever done any actual research or you know, had any experience whatsoever at all with transgender children, you wouldn't be SHOUTING things on a message board you think you know but really don't

originally posted by: Vector99
Here's the deal plain and simple. CHILDREN do not think they are the opposite gender unless they are influenced into it.

Most parents of transgender children have done everything possible to influence them to be not transgender. You cannot force or influence someone to be a gender. If your mom put you in dresses and pigtails, would you have thought you were a girl? Be real.

Hormones decide that, not personal preference. When someone begins puberty they are confused as it is, due to the newly experienced and production of hormones in their body. This bullshlt of kids feeling like they aren't right is just that, BS. They cannot feel that way because they have not developed enough to feel that way, UNLESS an external influence is applied.

What about all the transgender kids that know they are trans at 5 or 6, long before puberty. Interestingly enough, transgender children aren't "confused" and are just as solid in their gender as non-transgender kids. Research

Is it really a wonder that children of same-sex parenting are often confused in their sexuality? No. Children develop everything from their immediate surroundings.

So transgender kids are caused by gay parents? Oh brother!

Kids really don't care about the bathroom they use unless someone tells them to care about it.

Yeah, like girls don't care about going in the boys bathroom? Did you use the girls room at school? If it doesn't matter, why not?

Once puberty is complete they can start realizing their feelings as a sexual individual. I say sexual because it is just that. How the person feels sexually. They may be attracted to the same sex, and that isn't an abomination, but at least at that point in time they realize what they are attracted to and what they feel more comfortable as.

Sexuality or sexual orientation has nothing to do with being transgender. You are completely ignorant of the facts.

Don't give me the BS that they have to start the hormone therapy early, because it's not true. I someone feels like the opposite sex after completing the pubescent phase of life they can transition without an issue. But to influence it before then is just wrong. It leaves several children completely confused and damaged for life, often leading to suicide.

Children with gender dysphoria who don't receive the proper medical evaluation and care or have non-supportive parents will kill themselves or run away. This isn't something you can just ignore and hope it goes away. You are woefully uninformed.

Stop the damn acceptance of child transgenderism, because it's NOT ok.

But would you feel that way if you had a transgender child?

a reply to: Freija

How exactly does one research transgender people? As far as I know in the medical world the people with gender identity dis-phoria or whatever its called is handled on a case by case basis? I am not asking to troll you but I do hear an awful lot about researching this and when I type it into my google bar all I end up with is 80% tranny porn and then a bunch of stuff all over the place, again not to troll but what kind of research do you suggest that is both founded and unbiased in scientific and social study?

originally posted by: Vector99


Is it really a wonder that children of same-sex parenting are often confused in their sexuality? No. Children develop everything from their immediate surroundings.

Homosexuals typically have heterosexual parents. Transgender people typically have heterosexual cisgender parents. I love how you just make stuff up.

Don't give me the BS that they have to start the hormone therapy early, because it's not true. I someone feels like the opposite sex after completing the pubescent phase of life they can transition without an issue. But to influence it before then is just wrong. It leaves several children completely confused and damaged for life, often leading to suicide.

You got any links to support your assertion that children who transition early go on to be damaged for life often leading to suicide? Cuz I DO have links to support that children who aren't allowed to transition are the ones who become damaged for life often leading to suicide.

Stop the damn acceptance of child transgenderism, because it's NOT ok.

Stop making false assertions about something you know nothing about, because it's NOT ok.

originally posted by: xuenchen
Chicago Public Schools Now Forcing Students To Use Requested Transgender Pronouns

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a reply to: Freija

Fun. You apparently disregard human anatomy for personal reasons.

Most parents of transgender children have done everything possible to influence them to be not transgender. You cannot force or influence someone to be a gender. If your mom put you in dresses and pigtails, would you have thought you were a girl? Be real.

Source your study please.

What about all the transgender kids that know they are trans at 5 or 6,

How does a human decide sexuality before their body physically experiences it?

Yeah, like girls don't care about going in the boys bathroom? Did you use the girls room at school? If it doesn't matter, why not?

My mother was a single mother who always took me into the bathroom with her regardless of who had to pee. We always used the ladies room. When I went on my own she told me go to the girls bathroom because it is safer. I'm really not making that up.

Sexuality or sexual orientation has nothing to do with being transgender. You are completely ignorant of the facts.

No, you are. Hormones determine these things, and children don't produce those specific hormones until puberty.

Children with gender dysphoria who don't receive the proper medical evaluation and care or have non-supportive parents will kill themselves or run away. This isn't something you can just ignore and hope it goes away. You are woefully uninformed.

Source your study again please?

But would you feel that way if you had a transgender child?

I don't have children, but of course if I did I would support them. Now, on this comment, do you think children that grew up outside of any and all societal influences would know the difference?

In the past they were called tomboys and tomgirls.

Some of them ended up homosexual. Most did not.

There are these things called phases and external influences that absolutely determine child development.

a reply to: Brotherman

Wow. I have googled LOTS about transgender studies/research/issues, and I never got any porn in my results. Never.

I think that has something to do with your previous searches, just sayin.

Leave transgendered people alone. It's crazy the amount of fuss on ats it has created. No other country has a problem apart from the land of the free home of the brave

a reply to: kaylaluv

When I search for sexual re-assignment I end up with a porn star that had it done as the most popular search so I never googled it ever again. I would rather just have someone that knows the proper research I can directly read because I don't need that on my PC. Understand that I value my computer so I don't even go to that realm. Do you have appropriate research? If not then I will assume you are saying I search for tranny porn often and if by your comment and this what you intended that is fairly low.

a reply to: Brotherman

I don't know how to put a screen shot on here, so I just copied and pasted the first page of my results when I googled "transgender research studies". You can see for yourself - no porn.

Transgender today - American Psychological Association
www.apa.org › … › April 2013 Monitor on Psychology
More studies are exploring treatment for transgender people who seek it, as well as ways to combat the discrimination many still face.
Transgender Studies - CCSF Home Page
www.ccsf.edu/.../library/research-help/subject-guides/Transgender.html
Use this guide to quickly find reputable sources and save time on your research! ... transsexuals, tranvestism, transvestites, gender ... The Transgender Studies ...
Transgender Research Studies - TSSurgeryGuide.com
www.tssurgeryguide.com/Transgender-Research.html
Transgender Research: Project Life Skills The LifeSkills study is a randomized controlled trial funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH).
Transgender studies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org...
A subfield of LGBT studies, transgender studies provides an interdisciplinary approach to gender studies, gay and lesbian studies, and sexology by studying the ...
History · Teaching Transgender ...
LGBT Studies
lgbtstudies.ucla.edu
LGBT Studies UCLA. The Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Studies Program at UCLA is an interdisciplinary program that supports teaching and research on the ...
Gender studies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Gender studies is a field for interdisciplinary study devoted to gender identity and gendered representation as central categories of analysis. This field includes ...
TSQ: Transgender Studies Quarterly | Duke University …
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TSQ: Transgender Studies Quarterly Academic Editor(s): Paisley Currah, Susan Stryker Current Volume: 3 Frequency: Quarterly ISSN: 2328-9252 e-ISSN: 2328-9260
Transgender Kids Show Consistent Gender Identity …
www.psychologicalscience.org/index.php/news/releases/transgender...
A study with 32 transgender children, ages 5 to 12, indicates that the gender identity of these children is deeply held and is not the result of confusion about ...
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Homosexuals typically have heterosexual parents. Transgender people typically have heterosexual cisgender parents. I love how you just make stuff up.

What did I make up? On that note, why did those that identify as transgender feel the need to create a term for non-transgenders? Cisgender is a term made up by transgenders. Why?

You got any links to support your assertion that children who transition early go on to be damaged for life often leading to suicide? Cuz I DO have links to support that children who aren't allowed to transition are the ones who become damaged for life often leading to suicide.

yep, read up

Stop making false assertions about something you know nothing about, because it's NOT ok.

I didn't make false assertions.

a reply to: kaylaluv

That's fair enough, I am saying though when I did before for a thread a while ago what I ended up getting and once was enough if you understand that. I don't need that # but I will look through some of that so I can understand better. Thank you for putting substance here!

originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: kaylaluv

What did I make up? On that note, why did those that identify as transgender feel the need to create a term for non-transgenders? Cisgender is a term made up by transgenders. Why?

Same sex parents don't typically produce homosexuals and transgender people. That's a fact. Cisgender was a term coined by the medical profession first. Another fact.

en.wikipedia.org...

yep, read up

Did you bother to read the conclusions of this study?

Two interrelated risk factors appear to be most strongly
related to suicidal behavior among transgender and gender non-conforming
adults: rejection, discrimination, victimization, and violence related to
anti-transgender bias and serious mental health conditions.

In other words, the reason they were suicidal was NOT because they transitioned as children (because until recently, most did not start transitioning until adulthood), but it was because they were treated badly by people who don't understand them (sound familiar?).

Now, here's a study that shows children who are allowed to transition earlier are happier.

thinkprogress.org...

I didn't make false assertions.

Yep. You did.