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It was, however, the choice of the mother and father to procreate.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
First off, I wasn't referencing any of my friends in that situation, I've just seen some news stories over the years about guys to whom this happened, so I know it's out there.
Secondly, it is astounding that you can jump to implications of controlling, abusive, manipulative men just because their wife might opt to kill their developing child without telling them first. Funny how it's apparently okay for a woman to do that...at least, that's what seems to be implied by you suddenly making the woman be the victim in that situation. Yes...it's all the guy's fault, and the woman did it out of spite...sheesh, are you hearing yourself?
"Sorry, apathy isn't my strong suit" Obviously.
So you would rather I just don't care about this issue at all? Seriously? Are you sure that you read the word "apathy" correctly, and aren't thinking that I meant empathy or sympathy?
For starters, faith has nothing to do with my decisions, as I am an atheist. We can play what-ifs all day, but that will get us nowhere, because they are just hypotheticals and nothing more. But, I certainly support a state's right to tell someone that they can't kill off a developing human being just because it might be an 'unwanted mistake' at that point in their life.
To me, a human being is a living creature that has human DNA and is created by a human egg and sperm coming together in some way and creating a unique individual. The simple fact that nature has dictated that said human must exist inside of the female of the species for about nine months while developing and be attached via an umbilical chord during its tenure in the womb is irrelevant to it being a unique, individual human being.
When someone has a human being killed, I take offense to that--whether or not they want to assert their "right to privacy" as a piss poor excuse to be left alone in this killing is inconsequential to me. So, sure, I guess that you can say that I have a moral objection to it, but I feel that not killing our unborn humans just because we can is a pretty good societal goal.
In any event, what you and others who hold a similar view fail to concede is that a fetus is its OWN BODY, not the property of the mother just because it has no choice but to develop inside of her. Abortion isn't about what a woman does with her own body, it's about what they do to another human being.
Maybe we should treat abortion (since people claim it's a "right") like concealed carry of a weapon--make the woman take classes and then apply and pay for a license through their county or state government in order to exercise this right. I mean, both have the potential to kill a human being, right?
I personally feel like an elective abortion is tantamount to premeditated murder--or at the very least, it's hiring a hitman to take out a family member.
Abortion is touted as a woman’s choice, but according to one study, 64% of women feel pressured into abortion by their partners. Men may pressure their partners into having abortions because they do not want a child and do not want to pay child support.
A common way that men influence women to have abortions is by threatening to leave them. Sometimes a woman is so emotionally dependent on her partner that she is willing to sacrifice her baby in order to keep his “love.” Other times, the threat of physical violence or financial dependence is a factor. But, unsurprisingly, these efforts to keep the relationship intact often fail. Many times, the man will leave the woman anyway, or resentment and regret about the abortion will drive the couple apart.
originally posted by: ladyvalkyrie
a reply to: Annee
Yikes! What an awful experience.