Russian jets speed past US Navy destroyer in 'simulated attack profile

interesting take on the flyby

explained kind of

yup, everybody seems to ignore the fact US destroyer was (spying) only 70 miles from Russian naval base... it's just a little warning to US that Russian military has not rusted away...

SPLASH two...

originally posted by: donhuangenaro
yup, everybody seems to ignore the fact US destroyer was (spying) only 70 miles from Russian naval base... it's just a little warning to US that Russian military has not rusted away...

To be fair, this is no different from a Russian naval ship sailing close to any other country. It's no big shakes. The difference is that when Russian warships sail up the English Channel and pass the naval bases of several NATO countries (much closer than 70 miles), NATO don't send planes to play silly buggers.

if the Cook turned on there Phalanx (CIWS) at 30 feet the russian plane would look like it had went through a paper shreader.

www.youtube.com...
www.military.com...

a reply to: ANNED

if the Cook turned on there Phalanx (CIWS) at 30 feet the russian plane would look like it had went through a paper shreader.

Then the Cook would probably received visit from sympathetic P-800 Oniks or something similar! And then escalation.

I hope you never rise to any job where you have authority on a weapon system...

a reply to: Zaphod58

but are quite adept at building missle bases around russias borders

In any case these pilots know full well they are messing with the cook and doing it for fun because they can
and they know there wont be any real consequences accept maybe a slap on the wrist from their commanding officer
then a sly smile !

Im pretty sure the american pilots are choking to buzz Russian warships too , it's just like tit for tat jokes between armed services
look at the decks crews faces they arent the least bit concerned

a reply to: donhuangenaro

The location of the ship was indicated in the source article.

There's no evidence that anyone has ignored it.

a reply to: odzeandennz

I figured they were taking pictures from the helicopter, so they could use it back home as propaganda. Still unsafe, and I have to laugh at anyone who defends that sort of action. No.. the US does not do this.. if they did, it would be plastered all over the news the same way. And no, it's not pilots having a joy ride.. they were directed to do this.

I am pretty sure the same people who think the U.S. "deserves' this sort of thing.. if the tables were turned, I'm sure they'd be complaining about how the U.S. is trying to provoke a war.

Bears And Bulls

Kerry says US Navy destroyer could have shot down Russian warplanes

As silly as the narrative may be, the consequences will be very real. Further deterioration in the already tattered relationship between the U.S. and Russia will not benefit Russia in the slightest.

For all the bravado, Russia is in a very bad place, it's getting much worse as time passes, and further economic isolation and sanctions will not improve the tumbling Russian economy. The saber-rattling only serves to paint Russia as a threat that needs to be neutralized, rather than a great nation that needs to be treated with respect.

But it's not just NATO at Russia's doorstep. China is slowly but methodically working to establish itself as the dominant power in Central Asia and reverse its previous losses to the Soviet Union. As benign as President Xi's One Belt, One Road initiative may seem, its ultimate effect will be similar to that of NATO's push into Eastern Europe, with similar effects on Russian influence in the region.

On the military front, Russia does have nuclear weapons, but the NATO missile defense system aims squarely at that, and the U.S. in particular has been quietly developing a range of technologies that can reliably counter Russia's nuclear arsenal (as well as those of other nations). Aside from the fact that using them would invite apocalyptic reprisal, relying too heavily upon them even as a deterrent would be unwise.

Conventional weapons still decide outcomes. Though Russia is well aware of that and has been upgrading its military, it's no match for a 500 pound gorilla like the U.S.

To illustrate (figures estimated and approximated in U.S. dollars):

Russian Budget (2016): $233 billion
Russian Military Budget (2016): $49 billion
U.S. Military Budget (2016): $585 billion

The U.S. military budget is over 11 times the size of Russia's, and about 2.5 times the size of Russia's entire government budget. And the ruble is falling.

Russia is living on borrowed time. If it is to survive the relentless forces pushing in on it from all sides, it's going to need adult supervision. That necessarily involves not behaving like a drunken hillbilly waving a shotgun around and threatening everyone in the neighborhood.

For now, there's still a choice, but only for a little while longer. If President Putin isn't up to the job of bringing sanity to Russian governance, he will eventually be replaced by someone who is.

a reply to: Majic

Thank you, Majic. Great info.

You really put the information together well.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: nooneyouknow

The fact that it was in international waters and not a threat.

So then neither were the jets. Except the destroyer was all the way over there near their country and that represented close enough of an approach to warrant the response.

originally posted by: Quantum12
a reply to: Majic

Thank you, Majic. Great info.

You really put the information together well.

Riggght…

The saber-rattling only serves to paint Russia as a threat that needs to be neutralized, rather than a great nation that needs to be treated with respect.

More like something Colonel Kurtz would say, "exterminate them all…"

a reply to: intrptr

LOL. Now you making me spit coffee.

a reply to: paraphi

The difference is that when Russian warships sail up the English Channel and pass the naval bases of several NATO countries (much closer than 70 miles), NATO don't send planes to play silly buggers.

Russia don't 'play'.

a reply to: intrptr
Where were our f22's
F 22

This is directed at the author of this OP. What does an attack look like? How is it determined that this was a simulated attack or just a buzz job.? Your wordplay is very interesting.

a reply to: buddah6

This is directed at the author of this OP. What does an attack look like? How is it determined that this was a simulated attack or just a buzz job.? Your wordplay is very interesting.

An attack would have been over before anyone had time to get out their phones and record it.

So second and third passes were 'caught on tape', expected and accepted as demonstrations.

Love to see that first pass…

originally posted by: Quantum12
a reply to: intrptr
Where were our f22's
F 22

Missiles would be the goto in such quickly developing scenarios, or these…

Oerlikon

a reply to: intrptr


I want 11 more passes over that ol American boat.
*i hope they don't shoot our boys down
Someone pass me the vodka
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