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I mean honestly, why would he speak of things as a fact and then distance himself from it as you say he has.
originally posted by: SuspiciousTom
This man was one of the first, if not the first to be so open on video with such big claims, 1989. That's huge to have been speaking with such detail and precision. This man is seen as a fraudster/hoaxer/lier, a man who lied and threw his life and reputation away for absolutely nothing, or so it would seem. People speak of him in such a manner as if anything or any mention of him should be completely discarded. Now I can't say I'm a thorough investigator or anything of the sort especially on the topic of UFO/Aliens. However it irks my soul to see people proclaiming
4) He spoke also of the texture and believed composition of the craft and how he believe it was made. Now bare with me, many of you will probably jump at this, but his choice of words are fairly important. It comes off fairly natural, he explained what he believed it to be "I assumed it was metal because it was, Cold to the touch" "Stainless steel wasn't shine" "I can't really reflect on how it made me feel but that was exciting". Hoaxers tend to go to the extreme, he'd explain so thoroughly what the craft was made of what it felt like and how it made him feel. The way he spoke somewhat shows he had a mesmerizing moment. However many people as stated before won't agree with that and that's fine.
5) He personally stated in his interview that he believes there were many more far more qualified than him to do such a project and could easily recommend a few off the back of his hand. But when a whistle blower sets his lips upon that whistle and let that air from his/her lung flow, who do you believe would be the one deemed crazy and the one taken seriously. A reputed scientist or an unknown man. Confiding in people is hard, even as the government you can never stop someone from speaking so get someone you know you can debase easily.
Anyways all this is just to say, hey this guy came forward spoke it all, said some things that seemed like magic and supported thousands of persons who have seen impossible craft doing impossible maneuvers. You tell people what you've seen and they give you that skeptic look, waiting for you to shut up. Keep in mind, we cannot confirm ourselves to be the most advanced human beings that have ever lived. Our specie has existed for 2 million years, and in just ~100 ye
Moral: Stop trying to discredit your fellow mates and support them, try to help them prove what they are saying and increase awarene
The fact that he didn't ask for money is meaningless. Some people are pathological lying sociopaths who just want attention at any expense. When your 21 and haven't seen this a lot yet it's easy to think these people are legit. After a few decades of witnessing how crazy and straight up frauds people often are it's easier to understand.
originally posted by: fleabit
The Air Force creating multiple excuses for Roswell until they hit upon one they thought would dismiss enough of the story to blow it off hardly disproves it. There is far too much proof something other than a balloon crashed in Roswell. This isn't a thread about Roswell though.
Lazar I've always felt is a liar - far, far too many red flags covered up by feeble "the government wiped out my education and work history" excuses. Off on element 115, faked badge, SSN mixup on a form that was dated the wrong year for when he supposedly worked, state taxes supposedly filed in Nevada, that doesn't have state taxes, etc. - there is just too much "wrong" about his stories, and not nearly enough substance. I think he invented all of it. At best, I think he worked for a very short period as a technician or something, was let go because he coudln't get a clearance, and that was it.
A couple have vouched for him, so I suppose there is a slim chance there is something there. I just doubt that there is.
originally posted by: Jay-morris
a reply to: joelr
I am working, so can only answer the quote above. What you said above does not make sense. He did not crave attention, as after the initial interviews, he distanced himself from it and tried to move on, so the "pathological lying sociopaths" falls short.
Also, I would like to add, calling him a pathological lying sociopath is a bit harsh! But this is the problem with this subject. If you have debunkers, some will look at people like Lazar as if they are the most evil men in the world lol It is quite sad in itself, but just the way it is.
originally posted by: play4keeps
a reply to: joelr
This is an impressive post. May I as what are your scientific credentials ?
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: SuspiciousTom
1) Bob made reference to element 115 in 1989, was first synthesized in 2003, at the time he was stating this, only up to 112 was confirmed. He also stated to synthesize a usable amount is virtually impossible.
- He spoke with depth of how it was used to power craft, people go ahead and try to disprove it as if they have powered or have experience in the field. He was reverse engineering. He didn't make a claim and not go in detail. He seemed pretty confident in what he was saying.
Element 115 existing is meaningless. Can you show me where element 115 has the properties Lazar described?
It doesn't. In fact, 115 is unstable and it having been created is proof Lazar was lying, since it is unstable, can not be pressed into discs, and since it has been created we know it has none of the unique gravitational properties Lazar said it has.
Lazar is a proven liar.