originally posted by: redchad
Can we cut the Nazi political correctness. When my grandfather, father and uncle's were fighting in the war be it at sea or in North Africa or at
Arnhem they were fighting the jerries, the Bosch in fact the Germans. It was the jerries that bombed the local docks No one talked about the enemy as
Nazis even kids toys were German soldiers. Nowadays it's nazi this and nazi that. Sorry folks it was the Germans.
My family too were in the war in all theatres from north europe to north africa to east asia and even at home one brother was walking down the street
with another brother, a german bomb scored a direct hit on one of them and the other was blown off his feet but uninjured, it was as if his brother
had simply vanished as there was nothing left of him.
The germans of today's generation feel detached and rightly so as it was there grandparant's and great grandparents generation whom bore a great deal
of responsibility and indeed it has to be said that they were responsible, I will warrent not 100 percent but certainly they share in the guilt as
they voted hitler into power in 1933 on a manifest in which he said what he was going to do, during the night of broken glass the common german's
celebrated, the Jew's were simply put out of there business and common germans simply moved in and took over those business which had often taken
generation's to build up.
But we have to remember this would never have happened except for what the Germans were forced to Suffer in the 1920's as there country was forced to
pay crippling war reperations which had been unfairly imposed on them as the losing side in the first world war even though that was really a game of
politics in which the ruling class of the player nation's thought of there own working class as disposable soldiers and peasants born to keep them in
there place's of privaledge.
The reperations imposed on Germany which essentially meant they had to pay the war debt of the victorious nation's meant that German familys
litterally starved to death, peaple were eating there pet's to survive and boiling shoe leather and belt's with grass at it's worst, this created
anger, hatred and resentment in the Germans as it would in any nation and Hitler promised them vengence and justice which is how he came to power but
of course he needed a scapegoat and who better than the introspective and secularised community of the Jewish whom kept there money to themselves and
had weathered this economic hardship relatively unscathed, indeed MANY among the Jewish community had grown more wealthy by using there wealth to buy
up more property in Germany during this period of Economic woe, Hitler hated them with a jealous rage though most German Jew's were utterly and
totally innocent and many also lived in and suffered the same abject poverty the rest of the german's did, indeed many of there decorated war veterans
in the first world war were patriotic german Jew's but of course Hitler needed someone to point his wagging finger and mouth foaming rabid hatred at
in order to whip up a frenzy in the easily led, tired and poverty ground down german public and so they were the easiest target for him (plus he was
personally anti semetic in himself and in fact believed most of what he spouted which only makes it all the more tragic and worse).
Both the first and second world wars took there toll on our Nation Britain as they did on France, Belgium, Italy and Especially Russia (Whom mainly
withdrew form the first world war in 1917 after the October revolution) but remember also the German's suffered terribly too, the way you feel about
them they felt about us as well, but it was not always that way.
Prior to the first world war Germany was one of Britain's closest Allies and had been for hundreds of years before that conflict, indeed we shared
more than Alliance and even had blood ties and many familys with relatives in both nation's.
Also a forgotten part of History, in the 1920's and early 1930's there were tension's between the US and the British empire with many Rabidly anti
British US senators (Remember we burned the white house down in the early 1800's which they never forgave) wanted to push an aggressive policy to what
they saw a threat to there own economic status and also to there own safety, they also saw the British rule of Canada as a defacton occupation of
territory which they felt strongly should be part of the united states even though Canada had and has it's own government, indeed the US drew up
invasion plan's for an annexation of Canada, the Canadian's drew up plan's for a response if the US invaded and how and were to launch counter
attack's and strikes into the US and without either of the two north American nations knowing the British admiraly had drawn up plans to hold the US
whom they had realised they could not beat but could only hold at stalemate in the Atlantic meaning that the British were then going to abandon canada
if this war had ignited.
Hitler knew about this and actually drew up plans to come into that war if it had happened on the side of the British, indeed he even started the
second world war with the firm belief that he could eventually get the British to accept he did not want to invade Britain and wanted us as HIS
Thankfully we did not accept the Nazi overtures and did go to war with him our justification being the liberation of our ally Poland any tradition of
alliance with Germany having been washed away in the bloody trenches of the first world war.
History is not what it seem's, the Nazi's had to lose and remember they also murdered hundreds of thousands of germans including the loyal army
officers whom were sworn to uphold the german constitution and not just Jew's and other minority's but there own people as they put down any dissent
before it could rise up, they also enacted an official policy of euthenasia and any disabled person could be killed on the orders of the doctor, in
the long run the red haired germans and those with brown eye's would have been sterilized in order to breed the NAZI idiological VERSION of what they
thought a German should look like, but do you know that idiology of superior blonde blue eye'd germanic people was actually a Victorian English
invention, have you ever read any English tales from the late 1800's and early 1900's in which all the main hero characters are blonde, blue eyed
while the villains are always dark eye's, dark haired and crooked nosed.
Sadly we also invented the concentration camp's, have a look at how we treated the Boar men, woman and Children in south africa during the Boar war
it was truly horrendous, we also used the first ariel bombing of civilian tagets, it began in Ireland, a village suspected to be harbouring IRA
sympethisers (Before the first world war while they were actually british citizens) had hand grenades dropped on it from pre first world war biplanes
and this was then used throughout the empire to teach the Natives a lesson.
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