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originally posted by: lavatrance
So far you're missing the point. I'm mosting hearing all of what I've seen in dozens of war movies. Yes we've been shown and taught all this history but how do we know it's true?
originally posted by: redchad
Can we cut the Nazi political correctness. When my grandfather, father and uncle's were fighting in the war be it at sea or in North Africa or at Arnhem they were fighting the jerries, the Bosch in fact the Germans. It was the jerries that bombed the local docks No one talked about the enemy as Nazis even kids toys were German soldiers. Nowadays it's nazi this and nazi that. Sorry folks it was the Germans.
originally posted by: lavatrance
I was thinking about this a bit. The fact is that the NAZI's were way ahead of their time. They were working on all kinds of insane weapons technology. It's accepted by historians that they pioneered a ton of engineering marvels. Like we know that list could fill several books.
But they were also brilliant at the propaganda war. They convinced everyone that the jews were no good. That hitler was some kind of a deity like figure, that the arian was the best race, and all kinds of crazy stuff.
So what I started wondering was this. Lets say a think tank in germany realized that even if they won the war they might have a hard time then dominating and forcibly controlling all these people. They realized that the better approach to winning the war might be by "stealth".
So here's a few scenarios:
1) They won the war but they rewrote history to make it look like it was a complete loss. Therefore future generations would not know that they are now infact under nazi rule.
2) They actually lost the war but carefully groomed the scenario to allow for operation paper clip to take place. Paperclip would happen at such a level that they could then infiltrate and take over the You-es, brit'z and the ruskies ... and do it by stealth, they'd essentially be implanting their top people in top positions within these foriegn gahvourn-mints. And thus over time they'd covertly take over all there enemies.
Now why is this theory reasonable? Well look at everything! it's nuts. The you-es has the highest levels of prisoners in the world. Nazi germany would be extremely proud. They had nothing on this level of tyranny. Then look at everything else. Cameras on every street corner is the norm now. Endless propaganda on tv, radio, movies, music, books, news etc. All MSM is under a controlled agenda.
So look at this carefully, all this supposed FREEDOM that the allies (good guys) were fighting for is gone. It's all total and complete BS. We are now living as the NAZI'S would have liked us to live. Exactly how, even more so! But yet we think we won the war. We think we won some kind of freedom from oppression and the bad guys. But nothing could be further from the truth. We are living in as close to a modern nazi germany as one could imagine it would be like.
So it makes me wonder if there's perhaps something else that happened that we're not being told. Maybe the NAZI'S did win somehow and it's a big cover up??
What do you think???
originally posted by: Layaly
a reply to: lavatrance
What do you define as winning the war?