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The reason Trump will win/ Blinded by the past.

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posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 02:20 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody

There is no chance Trump will even get the nomination.
Democrats don't sit out presidential elections.
I have perfect confidence for another 4 to 8 democratic years.




posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 02:21 AM
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a reply to: Enochstask

no, I will not. I refuse to participate in a process that is rigged. I used to be full on into politics. I realize now that participation is worthless. Hillary will be president. She is the establishment candidate, she is a war monger, she is the one that facilitated the rise of ISIS. According to a press release I read a couple of months ago, she already has the delegates to secure the nomination. I will be sitting this one out.



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posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 02:21 AM
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originally posted by: GrantedBail
a reply to: Enochstask

It is not going to happen. Everyone is offshoring for cheap labor. I experience that in my own life. They haven't any reason to do otherwise. A CEOs job is to make money for shareholders. They have no allegience to this country. Not to mention; although they derive their profits in the USA, they store their money offshore to avoid taxes. This is NOT an immigrant problem. This is a systemic problem that is facilitated by our Government. They are all on the take. You are on the bad end of a bad deal.


Did you hear Trump a couple of months ago about Nabisco moving to Mexico? He said he would make it expensive for them to bring their product back into the country. He is well aware of what these big corporations are doing. There is an immigration problem when you go into a restaurant and the person takes your order can barely understand you. We need to halt all immigration until the immigrants we have assimilate.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 02:29 AM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: jobless1

Mark my words if old bernie get elected he will crawl so deep into the middle east's arse it will make bush and obama look like hippies in comparison.

Based on what?

Trust me you will feel the burn when your funding a war to provide Israel more security


And the GOP has shown they won't do this when??




based on his stance with Israel and being a practicing jew.

#2 your correct in your assessment that the GOP will do the same.

#3 I cant believe how many people on ATS thought Ron Paul wasn't a viable candidate but will vote for a socialist just because hes on a democratic ticket.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 03:58 AM
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a reply to: shooterbrody





Dems will stay home as Hillary or Sanders do not inspire people to show up
Hatred of the media and congress will get Trump voters to show


To think Hillary doesn't have a lot of supporters is wishful thinking. A lot of Democrats liked her husband as president and feel she can follow in her husband tracks. (Except for the Monic Lewinsky affair, lol)

As far as Sanders is concern, how can you even say he's not inspiring people? He's surprising a lot of the candidates including the media about the crowds he's attracting at his rallies. If something changes with Hillary and if she starts losing support, don't be surprised if Sanders becomes the candidate to watch. Sanders relates to the struggles of everyday Americans. He's addressing those issues and a lot of people are starting to support him. He would definitely shake up the corporate elite and push for campaign finance reform. Something we desperately need if we want to stop the corruption of our political leaders.

I really think Sanders is going to emerge as a force to be reckoned with as we get closer to the primaries.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 05:15 AM
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a reply to: WeRpeons

If the elections aren't rigged, Sanders will win. I refuse to believe America is stupid enough to support someone as transparently malicious as Hillary.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 08:40 AM
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A great thread was posted on ats a few days ago, it was a great read explaining how gop and democrats vote differently, the gop always shows up for most election while the dems vote in force during presidential election, it was doing a very good job breaking it all down.

It was broken down by a few different conservative sites, and yea trump has zero chance, and hillary the wicked witch would win it all, now i need to go wash myself.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 09:06 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody

I disagree
Dems will stay home as Hillary or Sanders do not inspire people to show up
Hatred of the media and congress will get Trump voters to show


You may want to google;"Which political candidate is drawing the largest crowds" and enlighten yourself just a bit.

Bernie's crowds have been the envy of all other candidates since day one of his campaign.

Oh yeah, did I mention the fact that the mainstream media and the GOP candidates are afraid to even acknowledge his existence?



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 09:14 AM
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originally posted by: Eilasvaleleyn
a reply to: WeRpeons

If the elections aren't rigged, Sanders will win. I refuse to believe America is stupid enough to support someone as transparently malicious as Hillary.


Depends which America are you talking about?

1. America composed of the individual Americans: They are aware she is malicious

2. America composed of Oligopoly corporate Behemoths: They are aware she is malicious but they are the ones that control her.

Guess who wins when it comes to elections the people or Money?

Sadly she looks like she will be the chosen one



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: Enochstask

originally posted by: GrantedBail
a reply to: Enochstask

OK I did talk to you. Give me something to believe in. Tell me something that is real

Donald Trump isn't controlled by special interest. Donald Trump wants to see America succeed. Donald Trump was against going into to Iraq from the very beginning. I hope that is real enough for you.


For starters, Trump isn't controlled by special interest because he IS special interest!

He may not be your typical puppet politician controlled by special interest puppeteers, but that's because, (by his own repeated admission) he is the puppeteer.

He's been buying politicians every since he inherited his first million and the only success he's truly interested in, is his own.

Bernie Sanders said it right when he told Hillary that Congress doesn't regulate Wall St. anymore, Wall St. regulates Congress.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Bernie didn't just talk against going into Iraq from the very beginning, he actually voted that way as an Independent in the Senate!

Did I mention that Bernie doesn't take special interest money? Not even Trump's.

I hope that's real enough for you.
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posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 10:09 AM
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originally posted by: WeRpeons

To think Hillary doesn't have a lot of supporters is wishful thinking. A lot of Democrats liked her husband as president and feel she can follow in her husband tracks. (Except for the Monic Lewinsky affair, lol)


And what those Hillary supporters need to realize is the fact that the Monica Lewinsky affair was probably the least damaging thing her husband did to this nation.

Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law!

Bill Clinton awarded China with "Permanent Most Favored Nations Trading Status!"

Bill Clinton signed into law, the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act! (Hillary has repeatedly stated that she is against reinstating the Act)

Those three things are probably the biggest single causes of the massive outsourcing of American manufacturing jobs, (that huge sucking sound Ross Perot warned us about) as well as the Wall St./Banking collapse that predicated the 2008 recession.

While I agree that Bill Clinton did "some" good deeds while in office, they don't outweigh the damage caused to us on the national scale.

Needles to say, I certainly hope you're right about Bernie becoming a force to be reckoned with!

The office of POTUS is quite a "unique" position.

Do you know the best way to capture a "unique" bird?

U nique up on em!

Go Bernie!


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posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 10:46 AM
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After last nights debates, I came away impressed with Rubio and Cruz.

It was a mistake to hire a second Bush and it'll be a mistake to hire a second Clinton.

Its clear that our next President will be a Wartime President and they'll need some big balls. I think that if ISIS didn't exist and War wasn't upon us, that Clinton or maybe even Sanders would win this thing going away. But since that isn't the case, I think our next President will be a Republican. Sanders would be a HORRIBLE Wartime President. Clinton would too, albeit not as bad as Sanders would be, but she'd still be bad. Honestly, I think Rubio would be the best bet right now. He really hit on a lot of issues last night that people agreed with like upgrading our outdated Military. Rubio is picking up some steam.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: Bloodydagger

How Is our military outdated?

Like what areas specifically need to be updated.
Sounds to me like just code word for more military spending.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 12:06 PM
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Even if Trump gets the nod for the GOP, which is highly doubtful, his rhetoric won't get him traction past the people he already has supporting him, who would have voted for whoever the Republican candidate was. He'll play hell trying to get the swing vote using the same tactics during a Presidential campaign that he is using currently.

That and when it comes to outspoken supporters, the reality is one in every one hundred pro-Trump people will actually bother to vote. Conversely, one in every one hundred anti-Trump folks will actually bother to vote....



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 12:14 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Bloodydagger

How Is our military outdated?

Like what areas specifically need to be updated.
Sounds to me like just code word for more military spending.


Honestly, the American economy is almost reliant on military spending at this point. Military related business produce and consume more goods and services than any other industry we have. When you factor in all of the small businesses who's main customers (by a long shot) are those larger military-industrial manufacturers, it's a massive part of the economy as a whole, all the way down. I doubt that will change in our lifetimes. Not without something readily available to avoid the worst economic collapse ever experienced in America.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: usernameconspiracy

I somewhat agree but don't think we have to keep it that way, just the people making the most money on it want us to think that way.

Also think it is a bit of an exaggeration to say it will destroy the economy to cut any spending of it.



posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 01:28 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Bloodydagger

How Is our military outdated?

Like what areas specifically need to be updated.
Sounds to me like just code word for more military spending.


He mentioned our Submarines and certain jets are old hat (I believe the aging B52, B1 and B2's) - He was very specific and wasn't just throwing around words like "We need more Military spending" . He believes that certain aspects of our Military are behind the times and need to be modernized/upgraded.

marcorubio.com...

That is his Military plan.
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posted on Dec, 16 2015 @ 05:27 PM
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why will the GOP win the presidency? one word, Obamacare.
everyone has been affected by it, and not in a good way.obamacare has killed any chance of a democrate in the whitehouse in the 2016 election.
people vote their wallets.
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posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 11:52 AM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

I didn't mean for it to come across as any cuts would be catastrophic, so sorry about that. I wasn't trying to be dramatic. I was more referring to the extreme cuts which can get proposed during these debates as well as in these types of ATS conversations.



posted on Dec, 17 2015 @ 12:07 PM
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Do you think this divided country will elect Cruz? Rubio? Bush? Face facts, Hillary will be your next POTUS, then we'll reminisce about the good 'ol days under Obama.




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