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Though it was surely not his intention to do so,David Brooks’s column today has made an airtight case for why no sane person would support any Republican candidate for president next year. Brooks begins his column by conceding that climate-science deniers have a hammerlock on public discourse within the party. “On this issue the G.O.P. has come to resemble a Soviet dictatorship,” he writes, “a vast majority of Republican politicians can’t publicly say what they know about the truth of climate change because they’re afraid the thought police will knock on their door and drag them off to an AM radio interrogation.” Brooks uses this observation as a launching point to tout glimmerings of moderate (or, at any rate, less extreme) thought within the party. But let’s instead linger for a moment on the ideological commissars who prevent Republicans from acknowledging scientific reality. That sounds kind of important.
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originally posted by: cArLoSCuBsTaR
Whaaaaa? Exclusively Republican? No mate. It's not. I deny the 'science'. I'm nothing like Republican.
That's like me saying 'people who dis "climate science deniers" are almost always stupid'
Oh wait, they are. My bad.
Number 1. There is no such thing as climate science. That's called bollocks. Well actually it used to be called weather, but that was when I was young.
You'd be one of them there global warmists advocates ten years ago. Fooled.
No its climate change... Well... Can't deny that, can we? Because we can't deny there's a climate and it changes. That'd be dumb. So it's left to the stuck up their own arse idiots, riding the high horse of condescension down the valley of belligerence to champion the cause of the private globalist elites who are the only ones capable of causing anything close to anthropogenic climate change, so they can tax the very breath escaping your lips as you exhale (if you can afford to) your last words 'how could I have been so effing dumb to have fallen for such a ridiculous fraud?'
Here we again... Groundhog day....
originally posted by: lostgirl
a reply to: jrod
I'm so glad you posted this, it is amazing to me that people are so blind to the Republican agenda here!
They believe that scientists are lying about global warming in order to profit in some way, or that the Democrats are lying in order to profit in some way -
- yet they totally refuse to see that it is the rich, greedy, fossil fuel industry executives (all Republican global warming 'deniers') who are profiting by convincing people that everyone else is lying about AGW!!
There's that old saying, "follow the money" -
- and this is as simple as looking at who 'has' the money currently and who is in danger of 'losing' the money, if the general public finally accepts the truth that global warming is happening..
His public service activities were carried out on a pro bono basis made possible by his business activities, which included being chairman of the International Advisory Group of CH2M Hill, Strovest Holdings, Technology Development Inc., Zenon Environmental, and most recently, Cosmos International and the China Carbon Corporation.
His insider-trading conviction was upheld by the highest court in France on June 14, 2006.[57] In December 2006 he appealed to the European Court of Human Rights on various grounds including that the 14-year delay in bringing the case to trial precluded a fair hearing.[59] On the basis of Article 7 of the European Convention on Human Rights, stating that no person may be punished for an act that was not a criminal offense at the time that it was committed, the court agreed to hear the appeal.[60] In October 2011 the court rejected his appeal in a 4–3 decision, saying that Soros had been aware of the risk of breaking insider trading laws.[61]
Kerry and his second wife, Mozambican-born businesswoman and philanthropist Maria Teresa Thierstein Simões Ferreira (known as Teresa), the widow of Republican Pennsylvania Senator Henry John Heinz III, were introduced to each other by Heinz at an Earth Day rally in 1990. Teresa's has three sons from her previous marriage to Heinz, Henry John Heinz IV, André Thierstein Heinz, and Christopher Drake Heinz.[160] Heinz and Kerry got married on May 26, 1995, in Nantucket, Massachusetts.[161]
The Forbes 400 survey estimated in 2004 that Teresa Heinz Kerry had a net worth of $750 million. However, estimates have frequently varied, ranging from around $165 million to as high as $3.2 billion, according to a study in the Los Angeles Times. Regardless of which figure is correct, Kerry was the wealthiest U.S. Senator while serving in the Senate.
The deal appeared to pay off in a big way last week, when the Energy Department announced $3.4 billion in smart grid grants. Of the total, more than $560 million went to utilities with which Silver Spring has contracts. Kleiner Perkins and its partners, including Mr. Gore, could recoup their investment many times over in coming years.
The study’s lead author, Jay Zwally of NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland, agrees that the overall global rate of ice discharge into the oceans is increasing. “The good news is that Antarctica is not currently contributing to sea level rise, but is taking 0.23 millimeters per year away,” said Dr. Zwally. “But this is also bad news,” he added. “If the 0.27 millimeters per year of sea level rise attributed to Antarctica in the IPCC report is not really coming from Antarctica, there must be some other contribution to sea level rise that is not accounted for.”
originally posted by: Abysha
a reply to: jrod
You are going to get a whole lot of right-wingers saying:
- They are NOT republican (even though they take the republican view on nearly every topic)
- That "thought police" is a term that is not allowed to be used against them (because they really really like to use it).
- That people who believe in climate change are stupid. Because a 95% scientist consensus just reeks of a goddam false flag conspiracy.
For as much as they like to puff out their chests and claim they aren't "PC (goddammit)", there certainly are a lot of rules and eggshells we are supposed to observe when engaging with them.
originally posted by: cArLoSCuBsTaR
Number 1. There is no such thing as climate science. That's called bollocks. Well actually it used to be called weather, but that was when I was young.
originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: FriedBabelBroccoli
As I wrote in previous posts, I've debated both camps on this topic and alot in between.
The Antarctic is holding steady for now, while the arctic is no doubt losing ice.
You are just cherry picking data that you can knock down while ignoring the big picture and a plethora of data that is telling us AGW is valid and CO2 from burning fossil fuels appears to be a major contributor.
You accuse me of being an Al bot(thats a new one) when I make no.mention of his documentary. That is a clever play on words by you and words is all you got. When this topic is degraded to a war of words, the science is not addressed and you guys win(really a stalemate, but that is better than getting powned)
When the science is actually addressed, the science denial crowd loses because you cannot argue against the actual science.
originally posted by: reldra
The science does exist, whether you like it or not. You can call it bollocks or any number of things, but you can speak to the people who have a PHD in the science about that.
Denying Climate Science is almost exclusively a Republican view that is what the OP stated, leaving room for a few who are not Republican to join the unscientific party. You are free to deny science as much as you like. You can deny Chemistry, Biology and Physics- go for it.