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San Bernardino, Calif., fire units responding to reports of 20-victim shooting incident -

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posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: stevieray


He obviously doesn't give a rat's ass about the inner city violence where he's already got 99 % gun control, in Chicago, CA, Baltimore. If one just chuckles and guffaws and snickers at "Obama gun control", they're lying out their ass.


I agree.

How is Obama gun control working out so far? Not very good if you ask me.


You 2 think you could stay on subject?

Or start your own Obama thread.




posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: BatheInTheFountain
Anyone gotta new SCANNER feed. Channels inactive now.

Try this one:
County System 1 -Sheriff and Fire



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: Informer1958

I agree.

How is Obama gun control working out so far? Not very good if you ask me.


How is fighting against common sense gun laws working out so far? Not very good if you ask me.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
Nothing about this makes sense.

Flipping from Fox and Cnn they are clueless.



Not often we agree...but we do on this one. Looks phony!



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
Nothing about this makes sense.

Flipping from Fox and Cnn they are clueless.



Of course i'm not an American, but the whole thing does seems fubar.
Usually when you have a shooting everyone is chaotic, and the news is flowing and the whole USA is on lockdown

Now everyone is calm and no real concrete news is being shown. where are the killer profiles?
In most cases the first 10 minutes you get bombarded with who is he, where is he from etc...
We are what 2 hours since the shooting and no one can tell us anything...


Also why is there a press conference when the killers are still at large??



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:57 PM
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UPWARDS 14 people dead. 14 wounded



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:58 PM
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From news conference:

- up to 3 shooters
- up to 14 people dead
- up to 14 people injured

EDIT to add:

- no information on suspects or motive aside from stating that they potentially fled in a dark colored SUV.
edit on 2015-12-2 by theantediluvian because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
Just people wildly speculating without facts.

You mean kinda like what the MSM does?

I actually prefer my wild speculation WITHOUT the extra stealth agenda on the side.

Which is why ATS is now my primary source...

Take neo's post above for example:


originally posted by: neo96
Nothing about this makes sense. Flipping from Fox and Cnn they are clueless.




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posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: stevieray


He obviously doesn't give a rat's ass about the inner city violence where he's already got 99 % gun control, in Chicago, CA, Baltimore. If one just chuckles and guffaws and snickers at "Obama gun control", they're lying out their ass.


I agree.

How is Obama gun control working out so far? Not very good if you ask me.

Once you accept that all they do is lie about every aspect of the issue, day in & day out, you can move past even discussing how wrong they are every time. Never did see those wild west shootouts and rivers of blood in the streets, that are predicted for every relaxation of gun laws. But they''ll be saying it again tomorrow.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: randyvs
a reply to: neo96




The only thing we know is there was a shooting.



No way, the only thing we know is they're saying there was a shooting.
I've seen no indication of that being true.


Have you heard anything from your wife?



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
Really who would target the Department of health ?

Thats about ignorant.

Easy target.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: Deny Arrogance
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Obama has made his intentions very clear.




Obama hopes to make gun control the top issue of his final year in office, saying Americans aren’t more violent than other people but they “have more deadly weapons to act out their rage.”

In an interview published Tuesday in GQ magazine, Mr. Obama said easy access to guns is “the only variable” between the U.S. and other developed countries.

www.washingtontimes.com...


Yes, how dare he speak about background checks and keeping crazy people away from guns! How dare he wonder why it is that the USA leads the world in gun deaths and massacres like this! How dare he, erm, speak about it!
Has he taken a single gun away? Anywhere at all? No. He's just tried to speak common bloody sense at a time when the NRA apparently wants everyone to be armed to the teeth to stop people from looking at them funny.


So you want to make this political?

California has some of the strongest gun laws in the country. Criminals still had guns, but there were no people armed to defend themselves and end this violence before it got out of hand.

All this does is prove Obama wrong...again.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: randyvs

Google image search is your friend, guy.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
All SB schools on full lockdown.


It only makes sense with these guys at large. What a scary situation for everyone in the area! My heart goes out to them.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
From news conference:

- up to 3 shooters
- up to 14 people dead
- up to 14 people injured


He also said subject to change.

First reports, and all that jazz.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 03:59 PM
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courts and county buildings on lockdown



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 04:00 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra


X depending on the size of the department and protocols, they may not have scrambled channels for their tactical team. Most likely radio silence, codes, and hand signals.



posted on Dec, 2 2015 @ 04:00 PM
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Vehicle in golf course, multiple weapons inside vehicle...at gunpoint
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