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originally posted by: FlySolo
originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: tony9802
Zaphod speculates it was blocked pitot tubes that caused the crash, not terrorists.
I think this story is just people's imaginations running wild.
How does he friggen know that? Nvm, I'm checking out that thread.
originally posted by: ressiv
ever considerd that the US troops that went to syria is to protect and save the leaders of ISIS?
well the west have there revenge of MH17....
surpriced how fast they closed the sinai flying route....!?a reply to: MysterX
originally posted by: MrSpad
Nukes would be pointless when your fighting an enemy that is close in with Assads forces and population centers. Most of the people killed would not be ISIS. This story makes zero military sense. As Russia has learned just bombing ISIS or the rebels in general does not do much unless you have something on the ground to follow it up. Assad and his allies have failed to make advances of note. Nukes would do nothing but, kill lots of civilians and make large parts of Syria unlivable and turn every Syrian and Muslim in the World against Russia.
originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: mysterioustranger
Not only that, but Nukes are a 'last resort' option, a kind of trump card if you will.
Once you have played it, you have nothing further up your sleeve and unless Russia thinks it can take all of ISIS out with one or two bombs, then it makes no tactical sense because ISIS will just go mental - like ants do if you disturb their nest.
I'd put Raqqa at the top of the list for a tactical strike if they were considering it though (I am pretty sure they're not) because it is the unofficial capital.
originally posted by: tony9802
Russian Nuclear Units On The Move, Civilians Told To Leave, Putin vs. ISIS
MindyT October 31, 2015
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"In response to the purported downing of a Russian civilian airliner in the Sinai in Egypt, the Kremlin is now poised for a nuclear strike on sites controlled by the Islamic State. Citing its right to protect its people and interests in Russia and abroad, Intelligence officials have anonymously reported that Russia is moving its tactical nuclear units closer to its international boundaries and its frontier with other hotspots within Russia, such as the northern Caucasus region. The Russian military have been called up to help evacuate Russian nationals within these hotspots and have ordered non-essential civilians to leave Syria, Iraq, the Gulf states and other nations in the Arab world."
The article continues with the following information:
"Although Russia’s poising to use its nuclear weapons on ISIS, Russia held a secret meeting with NATO, reassuring them that Russia has no intentions on using nuclear weapons on either Georgia or the Ukraine, citing that attacking either of them would invoke a nuclear strike from NATO. Also Russia had consulted with the Syrian government as well as the governments of its allies in the region, who in turned told the Kurds and other allied militias of a possible nuclear strike, warning them to move allied civilians from areas that might be struck by Russia’s nuclear weapons."
Additionally this important information is presented in the article:
"A meeting of allied nations and Russia was held in Teheran within hours of the downing of the civilian passenger airliner in the northern Sinai- in which media reports have said that there was no in-climate reported at the time of the crash and witnesses on the ground claim a line of smoke went from the ground in the direction of the airliner before the ground to air missile hit the airliner. SITE has reported that a video purportedly made by either ISIS supporters or ISIS themselves that shows the downing of the airliner. The White House has declined to make a statement about this incident and the Kremlin’s use of nuclear weapons. However, the Kremlin says the use of nuclear weapons is justified to protect its citizens and its interests, namely helping to sustain the government of Bashar Al-Assad and keeping the its allies in power in Iraq and Iran, which are considered allies to Russia. Their common interest in destroying ISIS motivates them to work together."
Please see full article for additional info, and while I believe this is a good source, perhaps others can help make those determinations while adding complementary source references;