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Christians Persecuted by Muslims Even in the West

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posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 11:18 AM
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Last April, police in Sicily reported that Muslim migrants hurled as many as 53 Christians overboard during a crossing from Libya. The motive was that the victims “professed the Christian faith while the aggressors were Muslim.” Another report cited a boy seen praying to the Judeo-Christian God. Muslims commanded him to stop, saying “Here, we only pray to Allah.” Eventually the Muslims “went mad,” in the words of a witness, started screaming “Allahu Akbar!” and began hurling Christians into the sea.


Asylum seekers in the Swedish city of Kalmar, where Christian refugees were forced to move out of public housing after being harassed and threatened by Muslims.It gets worse. When Christian refugees finally do make it to Western shores, they continue to be attacked by Muslims, or fellow “refugees.”

According to a September 30 report, in Germany, “Many Christian refugees from Syria, Iraq or Kurdistan are being intimidated and attacked by Muslim refugees. In several refugee centers set up by the local authorities, Sharia law is being imposed and Christians—which are a minority—are the victims of bullying.”

Gottfried Martens, pastor of a south Berlin church, said that “very religious Muslims are spreading the following idea throughout the refugee centers: Sharia law rules wherever we are.” Martens expressed especial concern for Muslims who convert to Christianity—apostates who, according to Islamic law, can be killed: “There is a 100% chance that these people will be attacked.”

Earlier, in July 2014, the weekly Die Zeit explained how “an atmosphere of intimidation and hostility towards Christians” reigns in the refugee centers. Referred to as “pigs,” Christians have limited access to communal kitchens. According to local authorities, “The police have reached their absolute breaking point. Our officials are increasingly being called to confrontations in refugee homes.”

In Sweden, a July report told of how two small families of Christian asylum seekers were harassed and abused by approximately 80 Muslim asylum seekers from Syria. The Christians and Muslims—described by one Swedish newspaper as “fundamentalist Islamists”—resided in the same asylum house. As in Germany, the Muslims ordered the Christians not to use communal areas and not to wear their crosses around their necks.

After extensive harassment and threats, the Christian refugees who thought they had escaped “ISIS” left the Swedish asylum house “fearing for their own safety.” A spokesman for the government migration agency responsible for their center said:They dared not stay. The atmosphere became too intimidating. And they got no help… They chose themselves to organize new address and moved away without our participation because they felt a discomfort.

In Denmark, according to the conclusion of a study conducted last year, “Christian asylum seekers are repeatedly exposed to everything from harassment to threats and physical abuse by other [Muslim] refugees in the asylum centers, simply because they have converted from Islam to Christianity.” An eight year old Christian boy was repeatedly bullied and beaten by larger Muslim boys on his way to school, to the point that he dropped out. And someone tampered with a Christian asylum seeker’s bicycle so that he crashed and broke both hands.

According to Niels Eriksen Nyman, who led the study:There are certainly many more cases around the country than the ones we hear about in the church. I hate to say it, but I’m afraid that on some of the asylum centers there are some very unhealthy control mechanisms when the staff turns their back… I refuse to support Islamophobia, but we have a serious problem here.”

It certainly seems so. After all, such persecution is not limited to refugees. Christians of Mideast or Asian backgrounds who have been living in the West for years are also being targeted.

Last week in Gothenburg, Sweden, Markus Samuelsson, who is of Assyrian descent, found the walls of his restaurant covered with jihadi graffiti, including messages of “Convert or Die” and “The Caliphate is Here.” The Arabic letter ن (“N” for “Nasara,” or “Christian”) were painted on the walls of the next door pizzeria and the local bakery, though non-Assyrian businesses were left untouched.





posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 11:18 AM
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Thread has been made shorter in order to comply with ATS T&C.



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posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 11:23 AM
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Recently there was a post by MonkeyBoy that western Christians are making up this persecution being done by Muslims and that it is only an issue in the east.

According to the report above it appears MonkeyBoy needs to go back to the drawing board and fantasize a new thread to attack the Christian persecution that is ongoing and growing in the west.



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer
I am pretty sure C&P of an entire article is frowned upon by MODS.

You may want to trim that up a bit.



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 11:35 AM
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originally posted by: stosh64
a reply to: DeathSlayer
I am pretty sure C&P of an entire article is frowned upon by MODS.

You may want to trim that up a bit.


My reason is due to the numerous countries and the statements made by each which tie into the thread title. I wanted all to be able to read the full article here at ATS due to past threads.

If the MODS want I will shorten the thread.

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posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 11:37 AM
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So the op felt it was necessary to post the whole article instead of a little bit and a link? Also a few incidents hardly equals to Christians being persecuted. If you look enough you can find stuff like this being done to Muslims and Jews so does that mean they are persecuted as well?



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer
I understand, and appreciate the article.

Just saying it is against T&C's, and if you don't trim it MODS will.

Just an FYI.



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010
So the op felt it was necessary to post the whole article instead of a little bit and a link? Also a few incidents hardly equals to Christians being persecuted. If you look enough you can find stuff like this being done to Muslims and Jews so does that mean they are persecuted as well?


But the OP is talking about persecution of Christians in the west.

You are trying to drift this thread.




posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

For future reference.



post NO MORE THAN 10% of the original (or three paragraphs, whichever is least), and GIVE A LINK TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 11:43 AM
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Why isn't God doing anything?!?!?!?!?



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 11:45 AM
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originally posted by: stosh64
a reply to: DeathSlayer

For future reference.



post NO MORE THAN 10% of the original (or three paragraphs, whichever is least), and GIVE A LINK TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Thank you.



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: denybedoomed
Why isn't God doing anything?!?!?!?!?


That my friend is the million dollar question!

Depending on who you ask........ the answer will go off into various directions. NO two answers will be the same!

This is the number one question God haters ask ( I did not say those who do not believe ........BUT to those who do not believe this is a biggy also for you as well.......another reason to not believe because God has not stepped in and stopped all the bad an evil things being done on this planet.......right?)

This time we live in has been foretold in both the bible and the Quran and this is only the beginning. Lets talk in a year or so and you will wish for these days to come back!
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posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 11:58 AM
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Welcome to being a member of any religion throughout history. It's tragic but it's nothing new, I wish people would stop acting like it is and that their religion is the only one being persecuted. All religions are persecuted, not just Christianity.



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Welcome to being a member of any religion throughout history. It's tragic but it's nothing new, I wish people would stop acting like it is and that their religion is the only one being persecuted. All religions are persecuted, not just Christianity.


BUT this thread is about Christian persecution in the west and not another religion. By all means participate if you can stay on topic.



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

You're putting this in the context of end time prophecy though, claiming that Christians being persecuted today is a sign of the prophecy being fulfilled. This is ignoring other persecutions as less important or less tragic and also ignoring that ALL religions are persecuted in one way or another today and have been throughout recorded history.

The west, which is predominately Christian, has been persecuting Muslims ever since we invaded the Middle East 15 years ago, bombing their land and killing innocent people in the name of "freedom". Hell, George Bush even claimed God told him to invade Iraq and he's Christian.

This is just highlighting your persecution complex. Christians aren't anymore persecuted than Muslims, even less so. But I guess Muslims being persecuted doesn't fit with your agenda?



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: DeathSlayer

originally posted by: buster2010
So the op felt it was necessary to post the whole article instead of a little bit and a link? Also a few incidents hardly equals to Christians being persecuted. If you look enough you can find stuff like this being done to Muslims and Jews so does that mean they are persecuted as well?


But the OP is talking about persecution of Christians in the west.

You are trying to drift this thread.


No I'm not trying to drift your thread just pointing out the hypocrisy of it. Other religious groups have the same thing done to them as Christians something this article fails to point out because it just wants people to think that Christians are the only ones being being persecuted.



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 12:23 PM
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For some groups of people religion alters their minds with irrational fear and hate because they have been taught to think this way. That's a given. I think those who do this kind of thing repeatedly regardless of wheather they have fled their country of origin because of conflict should be sent back right away. No second chances. But I think this will be allowed to fester and the persecutions will continue to be reported because the authorities in charge of managing the inflow of asylum and refugees are incapable of strong-arm tactics.


edit on 21-10-2015 by Tindalos2013 because: spell error.



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: buster2010

Not really. Your unending diatribe in favor of the Palestinians is no different. Unless, of course, you are admitting to your own hypocrisy? Hmmm?



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010
So the op felt it was necessary to post the whole article instead of a little bit and a link? Also a few incidents hardly equals to Christians being persecuted. If you look enough you can find stuff like this being done to Muslims and Jews so does that mean they are persecuted as well?


For someone as smart as you, your ability to bury your head in the sand on this issues is mind boggling. However, I do agree that Muslims and especially Jews are also persecuted because of their belief in God. It is reprehensible.



posted on Oct, 21 2015 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: buster2010

Not really. Your unending diatribe in favor of the Palestinians is no different. Unless, of course, you are admitting to your own hypocrisy? Hmmm?


You do know that there are Christian Palestinians just as there are Muslims right? And Israel murders them just like the Muslims. So your statement is nonsense.




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