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This is really hard to understand. Did he mean put yourself in peril by making yourself destitute and abandon your position of responsibility.
16 Now as he walked by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.
17 And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.
18 And straightway they forsook their nets, and followed him.
19 And when he had gone a little farther thence, he saw James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, who also were in the ship mending their nets.
20 And straightway he called them: and they left their father Zebedee in the ship with the hired servants, and went after him.
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35"For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW; 36and A MAN'S ENEMIES WILL BE THE MEMBERS OF HIS HOUSEHOLD.
Using the op's take on it ,how would a poor person become perfect ?
Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
No, it would be massive ego of the apostles trying to spiritually advance by harming their loved ones.
None of this means literal stories, and if they could be taken in a literally, there is a lot not being said, such as Peter had a house and savings, and his family had good support around them to watch over and provide.
But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,
2 And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?
4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.
5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.
6 And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.
7 And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.
8 And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.
9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.
10 Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.
If Peter abandoned his family, then he wasn't a hero or a good man, he was a misognynst creep.
originally posted by: Revolution9
a reply to: Profusion
It is impossible for us to be perfect. We would not have needed Christ if it were possible.
Christ is pretty amazing. If you REALLY do what He says it is quite beautiful what happens back. Try it and see, doubting Thomas!
Your Best is not good enough... that is the lesson here and he proved it to this man.
Sometimes is never quite enough
If you're flawless, then you'll win my love
Don't forget to win first place
Don't forget to keep that smile on your face
Be a good boy
Try a little harder
You've got to measure up
And make me prouder
How long before you screw it up
How many times do I have to tell you to hurry up
With everything I do for you
The least you can do is keep quiet
Be a good girl
You've gotta try a little harder
That simply wasn't good enough
To make us proud
I'll live through you
I'll make you what I never was
If you're the best, then maybe so am I
Compared to him compared to her
I'm doing this for your own damn good
You'll make up for what I blew
What's the problem...why are you crying
Be a good boy
Push a little farther now
That wasn't fast enough
To make us happy
We'll love you just the way you are
If you're perfect
No, she was not. Her soul already knows some stuff. She was born INNOCENT (as opposed to being born "worthless" and "corrupt" and a "sinner" and "responsilbe" for the death of Jesus.) This is what little kids are taught all too often:
My child was born ignorant.
But through knowledge and the spirit of perfection she will reach perfection because she was made in the image of perfection.
This is what my daughter has been taught.
I would never tell she is not good enough, that is absolutely insane psychology.
If it's an order from Jesus, why haven't I seen one Christian do it?