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originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: Edumakated
Handguns aren't that accurate
Umm what? LoL yes they are, they arent long range but unless the person shooting it has NO idea how to use one, they are pretty damn accurate
Stop watching movies. It is very difficult to hit a moving target with a handgun. Vast majority of people are hardly expert marksmen. I can show you example after example of thugs shooting up a block full of people and not hitting anything (or someone they weren't even supposedly aiming at).
Stop watching movies? I served over 5 tours overseas including Afghanistan, im a marksman, and spent 8yrs in the Marines, im not an idiot....
Might be careful with your assumptions there pal
and yes they are pretty damn accurate.....if youre not just jerking the trigger.....
Your comparison was about how you cant gun down kids like that with a hand gun cause they run all over, were talking about confinement in a classroom with a high caliber handgun......its like fish in a barrel man
Again easy with your assumptions
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
originally posted by: Edumakated
originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
a reply to: Edumakated
Handguns aren't that accurate
Umm what? LoL yes they are, they arent long range but unless the person shooting it has NO idea how to use one, they are pretty damn accurate
Stop watching movies. It is very difficult to hit a moving target with a handgun. Vast majority of people are hardly expert marksmen. I can show you example after example of thugs shooting up a block full of people and not hitting anything (or someone they weren't even supposedly aiming at).
Stop watching movies? I served over 5 tours overseas including Afghanistan, im a marksman, and spent 8yrs in the Marines, im not an idiot....
Might be careful with your assumptions there pal
and yes they are pretty damn accurate.....if youre not just jerking the trigger.....
Your comparison was about how you cant gun down kids like that with a hand gun cause they run all over, were talking about confinement in a classroom with a high caliber handgun......its like fish in a barrel man
Again easy with your assumptions
Again, you are not representative of the typical person. So just because you may be an expert marksman does not mean 99% of the population is. For the vast majority of people, hand guns are not all that accurate. Vast majority of people do not have combat training. Vast majority of people do not know how to remain calm and not jerk off rounds under pressure. Heck, all you have to do is look at the pitiful aim of a lot of police men who supposedly get at least some consistent training.
originally posted by: yorkshirelad
originally posted by: Rosinitiate
It seems just as manufactured as ISIS. Funny how when the government needs a problem so they can intact their solution, one always seems to rise to occasion doesn't it? Curious and curiouser I say!
Only to a paranoid US citizen who still does not get it and will invent conspiracy after conspiracy instead of facing up to the consequences of freely available weapons that have one purpose.....to kill.
Nutters kill and their excuse will be utterly illogical (hint - because they are nutters DUH!)
originally posted by: EveStreet
a reply to: solongandgoodnight
It does seem peculiar that there should be so many and that does set up a great precedent for gun control - but that is a knee jerk reaction to a much bigger issue.
One needs to question why we did not have the problem of mass violence among our population a mere 40 years ago and before.
Society has been breaking down in a rapid fashion over the past decades. The justice system is a joke. Violence and aggressive behavior are promoted in mainstream media - games, movies, reality shows, sports etc and children lacking decent parenting are growing up to think this is more reality than fantasy. Parents working two jobs barely know their children these days and technolgy is their main babysitter. For all of the "social media" there is a huge disconnect in how people communicate. It's a self serving society high on instant gratification and brainwashed to think material things are the only things that matter. We no longer connect on a neighborly, community or hardly an even family level.
Factor in also, the plummeting economy and desperation of high priced education, lack of decent paying jobs for common people, the instability of future financial states - 401K & SS are shaky at best. People are at each other's throats instead of rallying for more and better jobs. Mental issues are running rampant (we closed all of the facilities for lack of funding). A happy society is an productively employed society - like the 50's and 60's when one income was enough for a family to live comfortably.
How and why it was allowed to get this bad - I have some theories, but gun control is not going to fix the underlying problem. Mentally unstable people will always figure out ways to kill if they really want to. Maybe we should put more focus on identifying people with issues and head off the problem but that requires funding and effort - well nevermind...
originally posted by: Bone75
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
What's creepy is, I don't hear anyone talking about tighter campus security.
After 9/11, we didn't ban boxcutters, instead we created a whole new government agency to prevent people with boxcutters from boarding planes. And guess what? Since then not a single plane has been flown into a building.
So why aren't we taking the same approach here? School campuses have been a prime target for mass murdering psychopaths for a long, long time now.
Shouldn't our kids be at least as well protected as airline passengers?
originally posted by: DrumStickNinja
a reply to: solongandgoodnight
Considering this happened only 50-ish miles from where I live. It really only motivated me to get my concealed weapons permit, I have a wife and kids I want to protect when we are outside the home.
But my conspiracy brain goes there too man, sometimes these tragedies are too quickly turned political.
originally posted by: FreeQuebec86
originally posted by: DrumStickNinja
a reply to: solongandgoodnight
Considering this happened only 50-ish miles from where I live. It really only motivated me to get my concealed weapons permit, I have a wife and kids I want to protect when we are outside the home.
But my conspiracy brain goes there too man, sometimes these tragedies are too quickly turned political.
it's turn political because you are the only "advance nation" that these things happen.... Please, inform you outside of the USA. Check out how other countries ( advance one ) work plz.
For the conspiracy.... This website dissapoint me SO FREAKING MUCH....
Your gouvernement is PROUVE TO BE CONTROLLED BY THE NRA ( FACT ).
No Illiminati, No M-16 mind-control, no "Gouv do this to take our gunssssssss".
YOUR gouvernement let your population kill urself, KILL UR FREAKING KIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS with gun.
just now, again in Canada, we report your senseless KILLING of a 12 killins is brother who is 13.
Yesterday, it was a 12 or so boy killing a 8yrs girl because she didnt want to let him see her puppy little dog....
You let THE NRA controlling your GOUVERNEMENT. And for HOW MUCH YEARS.... Does the killings stop ? Nope
NRA, a REAL LOBBYIST GROUP, force your politicians to acces, praise, DISTRIBUTE, guns everywhere.
Why all your REAL conspiracy-er, people that want to know the TRUTH from the gouvermenet and lobbyist groups destroying your life and killing YOUR KIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSSSSSSS.
You never question how NRA work, how they have so much power... You just eat their propaganda and believe they are protecting you.....
You are the Pity of the modern world.... BY FREAKING CHANCE, your non-sense mentality about gun is conceal to your country.
Happy that Trump could win and built wall everywhere so your guns stay with your kids shotting their brains out....
BRAVO Usa... Lol... pathetic ( even more from a conspiracy site ignoring the NRA Lol ).
Now i almost came here just to laught at ur pathetic mentality. And i hope helping real conspiracist, showing them that YES the NRA is worst then the Illuminati. BECAUSE THEY ARE REAL.