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should this really be encouraged?
originally posted by: TheLamb
originally posted by: luthier
Stick to the ontological cosmological and teleological arguements. They at least use reason and have a history of valid debates.
Why? They prove nothing. Just because they have been used through history doesn't mean that they are valid. Ducking stools have been used through history to test for witchcraft, but it doesn't mean that it works.
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
originally posted by: TheLamb
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
originally posted by: TheLamb
originally posted by: _Delysid
originally posted by: TheLamb
a reply to: pilgrimOmega
Numerology is the application of meaning to numbers. I'm not doing that. I'm using Maths. It's no different to a magic square which I'm sure you studied at school.
Nowhere are you using math. You arranged numbers into a table(why? Is there any reason behind the ordering?) and then traced numbers. Please explain the math behind this to help us better understand your post.
The numbers in the table are the result of adding together the numbers in the top row with the numbers in the side column. Second row: 6 + 6 = 12. 6 + 3 = 9. 6 + 8 = 14. Third row: 3 + 6 = 9. 3 + 3 = 6. 3 + 8 = 11. Fourth row: 8 + 6 = 14. 8 + 3 = 11. 8 + 8 = 16. The last time I checked arithmetic was a part of the maths curriculum. There is a reason for the ordering - it ties in with Genesis 46:3 word 8 which is "God". PI is also a part of the maths curriculum, isn't it? Symmetry is also mathematics. There. It's maths all the way.
There's no math in your original choice of numbers. That's where you've stacked your deck to get your intended result.
Intended result? Stacked? Are you saying you could do the same with your own choice of numbers? Go on then, show us. Produce a mathematical table with your own numbers at the top and to the side, apply a universal constant and produce a name for G-D.
Look, I know you're The Chosen One, and have a Very Special Message for the People of Earth, and I shouldn't question your motives or superior mathematical divination skills..... BUT.....
you said yourself you had to change some of the numbers to make it work.
Please see my other response to you regarding mental health.
originally posted by: TheLamb
originally posted by: NowWhat
So, God hates the number 5?
IF there is a god, I would think it wouldn't need to be proven.
Why would God hate a number? And you say "IF". You are obviously not a believer and it's for you that this message comes.
originally posted by: theMediator
I'm trying really hard to believe you. I've read the OP many many times, trying to understand how could someone anwser anything with numerology combined with cherry picking numbers and nope, it still doesn't make sense.
There is nothing logical in cherry picking some numbers and making them say whatever you want and there never will. It's just subjective fabulation and a false sense of understanding.
Sure, maybe there's something true with numerology but it just can't work that way. It's either you take ALL the numbers or nothing at all.
One can have numerology say anything they want and your deduction is no different. I'm agnostic and this numerology BS is really not giving me incentive to become a believer.
Sorry, I really wanted to see something but all I see is subjective crap that arrives to the conclusion you wanted it to.
originally posted by: TheLamb
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
originally posted by: TheLamb
originally posted by: _Delysid
originally posted by: TheLamb
a reply to: pilgrimOmega
Numerology is the application of meaning to numbers. I'm not doing that. I'm using Maths. It's no different to a magic square which I'm sure you studied at school.
Nowhere are you using math. You arranged numbers into a table(why? Is there any reason behind the ordering?) and then traced numbers. Please explain the math behind this to help us better understand your post.
The numbers in the table are the result of adding together the numbers in the top row with the numbers in the side column. Second row: 6 + 6 = 12. 6 + 3 = 9. 6 + 8 = 14. Third row: 3 + 6 = 9. 3 + 3 = 6. 3 + 8 = 11. Fourth row: 8 + 6 = 14. 8 + 3 = 11. 8 + 8 = 16. The last time I checked arithmetic was a part of the maths curriculum. There is a reason for the ordering - it ties in with Genesis 46:3 word 8 which is "God". PI is also a part of the maths curriculum, isn't it? Symmetry is also mathematics. There. It's maths all the way.
There's no math in your original choice of numbers. That's where you've stacked your deck to get your intended result.
Intended result? Stacked? Are you saying you could do the same with your own choice of numbers? Go on then, show us. Produce a mathematical table with your own numbers at the top and to the side, apply a universal constant and produce a name for G-D.
originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: TheLamb
Take the numbers 4,6,3 and 8 and in a table place them as the first row and the first column with 4 top left. Add the rows and columns together.
Holy Cow I think you figured it out and mathematically proven the validity of numerology .
1,. lets take your numbers : 4 + 6 + 3 + 8 = 21
He knew of the English language. He knew it would be me:
2. Now get the numerology number associated to you = 19
19 = People influenced by the number 19 can be completely self-absorbed, are usually extroverts and are often egotistical
You got to admit that thinking god picked you to find the answer is a bit egotistical.
3. Separating you from the equation leaves the number 2
21 - 19 = 2
4. 2 is the value of everything but without out you (19)
5. So lets see what we numerology says about numerology by taking those letters from the English language as you suggest.
He knew of the English language.
2 = B (2nd letter in the English alphabet)
19= S (19th letter in the English alphabet)
Numerology = BS
I really hope you were kidding with this thread.
Please note my intention was solely to demonstrate how numbers can be manipulated to make up anything you want knowingly or unknowingly.
originally posted by: TheLamb
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
originally posted by: TheLamb
originally posted by: pilgrimOmega
originally posted by: TheLamb
originally posted by: _Delysid
originally posted by: TheLamb
a reply to: pilgrimOmega
Numerology is the application of meaning to numbers. I'm not doing that. I'm using Maths. It's no different to a magic square which I'm sure you studied at school.
Nowhere are you using math. You arranged numbers into a table(why? Is there any reason behind the ordering?) and then traced numbers. Please explain the math behind this to help us better understand your post.
The numbers in the table are the result of adding together the numbers in the top row with the numbers in the side column. Second row: 6 + 6 = 12. 6 + 3 = 9. 6 + 8 = 14. Third row: 3 + 6 = 9. 3 + 3 = 6. 3 + 8 = 11. Fourth row: 8 + 6 = 14. 8 + 3 = 11. 8 + 8 = 16. The last time I checked arithmetic was a part of the maths curriculum. There is a reason for the ordering - it ties in with Genesis 46:3 word 8 which is "God". PI is also a part of the maths curriculum, isn't it? Symmetry is also mathematics. There. It's maths all the way.
There's no math in your original choice of numbers. That's where you've stacked your deck to get your intended result.
Intended result? Stacked? Are you saying you could do the same with your own choice of numbers? Go on then, show us. Produce a mathematical table with your own numbers at the top and to the side, apply a universal constant and produce a name for G-D.
Look, I know you're The Chosen One, and have a Very Special Message for the People of Earth, and I shouldn't question your motives or superior mathematical divination skills..... BUT.....
you said yourself you had to change some of the numbers to make it work.
Please see my other response to you regarding mental health.
I never said I was the "Chosen One". When solving equations you have to factorise, add, subtract etc. Replacing 5 with 6 - 1 is no different. I could have skipped the 5 altogether and come up with a cross if I'd been so inclined.
Making disparaging remarks about my mental health, not being logical, not being sane are very weak responses. You've not backed anything up. You've not quoted specifics of where my argument is flawed. It's just an endless flow of negativity which is understandable when you've just discovered that there is no explanation for what I've come up with and your god science has failed you. Just go with the flow, mate.
originally posted by: TheLamb
For the last time it is not numerology. Where have I applied a meaning to numbers? Can't you see the letters G-D? Have you tried tracing PI through the table? I thought not.
originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: TheLamb
Take the numbers 4,6,3 and 8 and in a table place them as the first row and the first column with 4 top left. Add the rows and columns together.
Holy Cow I think you figured it out and mathematically proven the validity of numerology .
1,. lets take your numbers : 4 + 6 + 3 + 8 = 21
He knew of the English language. He knew it would be me:
2. Now get the numerology number associated to you = 19
19 = People influenced by the number 19 can be completely self-absorbed, are usually extroverts and are often egotistical
You got to admit that thinking god picked you to find the answer is a bit egotistical.
3. Separating you from the equation leaves the number 2
21 - 19 = 2
4. 2 is the value of everything but without out you (19)
5. So lets see what we numerology says about numerology by taking those letters from the English language as you suggest.
He knew of the English language.
2 = B (2nd letter in the English alphabet)
19= S (19th letter in the English alphabet)
Numerology = BS
I really hope you were kidding with this thread.
Please note my intention was solely to demonstrate how numbers can be manipulated to make up anything you want knowingly or unknowingly.
For the last time it is not numerology. Where have I applied a meaning to numbers? Can't you see the letters G-D? Have you tried tracing PI through the table? I thought not.
originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: TheLamb
I can see them because you drew them there. You changed the value of pi and then put the letters in order and drew some letters over them and then decided that they represent god. Which is no doubt thentire purpose of your exercise. Do you even science bro?
originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: TheLamb
For the last time it is not numerology. Where have I applied a meaning to numbers? Can't you see the letters G-D? Have you tried tracing PI through the table? I thought not.
Whether you chose to call it numerology or not you are just taking numbers and playing with them. Since they are numbers you can make them become what ever you want as I showed you.
However, I'll play along , but Let me ask you this than:
How can you be so sure that GD doesn't mean:
Good Devil
God Delusion
God Damn
General Dynamics
Grateful Dead
.
.
.
?