Mathematical proof that God exists

There is math embedded in the writings of the scriptures.The most apparent is in Hebrew Gematria and Greek Isopsephy where letters equal numbers.The most significant theme of the scriptures is names which is the nature and character of the thing or person named.The person Moses who was an ISRAELITE(not a Judahite) claimed to communicate with the creator God that told Moses their “name” was ..."I will be what I will be”.That is transliterated from Hebrew into modern English as Yahweh which is also written in consonants only as Yod-Hei-Vav-Hei ….YHWH.

Later the Jews called it the “name” or Ha-Shem.In modern practice some observant Jews avoid writing any Name of God casually because of the risk that the written Name might later be defaced, obliterated or destroyed accidentally or by one who does not know better so it is written as G-d.This is an extrapolation from the scriptures Deut. 12:3 to not to erase or deface the name of God. The point is..the writing of the word G-d is a modern religious contrivance by some Jews.It was not practiced by the Israelites.

However the Israelites did emphasis the importance of names because it was more than just a “tag” to call someone.A name was the essence and character of a person.The scriptures main characters are the nation of Israel who was the father and was first named Jacob.He was the grandson of Abraham and the son of Isaac and twin brother of Esau.

Jacob and Esau were estranged when Jacob tricked Esau into selling him his 1st born birth right for a bowl of food.Jacob was about to meet Esau after many years and was in fear of being killed.The night before he had an encounter and the scriptures say Jacob “struggled” with God and he was renamed Israel which means...struggles with Elohim(God).

Israel had 12 sons whom became the patriarchs of Israel.These are the 12 tribes patriarchs of Israel arranged in birth order from top to bottom right to left just as the 12 stones on the breastplate of the high priest Aaron(Moses brother.. who where Levites).The Levites had no inheritance and became the priest tribes and are not included in the 12 patriarch inheritors of Israel.Joseph was the 11th born.He gave his birthright to his 2 sons Ephraim and Manasseh who became the 12th and 11th tribe.

These are the gematria sums of the patriarchs names in clearly defined patterns as on the breastplate matrix.

Judah-Simeon-Reuben
Gad-Naphtali-Dan
Zebulun- Issachar- Asher
Ephraim-Manasseh-Benjamin

30-466-259
7-570-54
95-830-501
331-395-162
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this is the simple addition of these name in a defined simple pattern of the breastplate matrix:

30+466+259+7+570=1332
54+95+830+501=1480
331+395+162=888

There were 4 “divisions of the Levites.
Aaron - Kohath-Gershon-Merari
This is their gematria:
Aaron=262
Kohath-505
Gershon-559
Merari-450

262+505+559+450=1776
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All 12 patriarchs gematria sums to 3700.The number 37 is the common denominator of all the number patterns of the patriarchs gematria.Here’s just a few simple number pattern sums:

3700÷37=100
888÷37=24
1480÷37=40
1332÷37=36
1776÷37=48
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The “odd” number(1-3-5-7-9-11) on the breastplate matrix gematria numbers are:
259+30+570+501+95+395=1850

The “even” number(2-4-6-8-10-12) on the breastplate matrix gematria numbers are:
466+54+7+830+162+331=1850

There are a multitude of patterns in the gematria of the patriarch name in relationship to 37 that are too much to go into for this post.Here is where it ties to the new testimony.Greek has a letter=number system like Hebrew gematria called isopsephy.The new testimony was written in Greek.The name Jesus comes from the Hebrew name Yahoshua (יְהוֹשֻׁעַ ) translated into Greek as Iesous(Ἰησοῦς) and christ/christos(Χριστός).In isopsephy

Iesous=888
christos=1480

These are the significant sums of all of the patriarchs of Israel name numbers and are the crux of the scriptures.They represent the “ratio(relationship) of mankind to the creator God in this age(material universe).The number 1.666 is the beginning of the ratio Phi-phi(1.618…0.618) calculated by the Fibonacci(Fn) number sequence.

1776÷888=2
1332÷888=1.5
1480÷888=1.666………..

Fn1=1
Fn2=1
Fn3=2
Fn4=3
Fn5=5

2÷1=2
1÷2=0.5
3÷2=1.5
2÷3=0.666…….
5÷3=1.666……..

This is the basis of the testimony’s that were written in the scriptures.They are plain as day with no hidden convoluted math and crude drawings.It is not numerology.It is not applied mathematics.It is signs summed (fulfilled) representing the “names” of mankind and Israel(struggles with God..not the nation Israel) is the archetype of ALL of mankind.

originally posted by: deliberator
TheLamb. This is what I would consider to be mathematics. A mathematician proposes a mathematical probability that Jesus is the Christ (notice he says probability not proof).

Mathematical Probability that Jesus is the Christ

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This link is propaganda from those who follow William Branham the self proclaimed modern day Elijah.

a reply to: Rex282

And? Could you tell us what you think that all means? Because it's a bunch of numbers that don't mean anything to me. I guess one has to have a belief that it means something or else it just looks like you are arbitrarily adding and dividing some numbers that need to be translated by someone who believes they mean something.

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Rex282

And? Could you tell us what you think that all means? Because it's a bunch of numbers that don't mean anything to me. I guess one has to have a belief that it means something or else it just looks like you are arbitrarily adding and dividing some numbers that need to be translated by someone who believes they mean something.

WC

I didn’t post this to propagate what I believe or to assign it meaning.I’m making a statement of fact.These numbers are clearly there and evidenced by the over 2 thousand year old method of isopsephy and gematria.There is no logical reason to twist the information.Even if I did it would be against impossible odds to calculate these names and have them products of phi-Phi golden ratio.This could have all been done millennium’s ago yet there is no such record of anyone believing it or stating it.

It is truly information hidden in plain sight.There is non of the convoluted math and mystic science conjecture of all the “bible” code systems.This is following established principles with established words.The last thing Judaism will believe is that Yahoshua was Hamashiach but not the one they are looking for.

The Christians won’t touch it either because they believe it’s numerology and is demonic and the non religion-religious could give a #.The fact is none want to believe it yet there the evidence is ,as plain as day.I didn’t make it up.Nor did anyone else.It is factual.

If you want to know more how the calculations are performed and why I’d be happy to tell you.

a reply to: Rex282

the last 9 pages say you are incorrect.

which is okay, as long as you (amongst others) can accept it and learn from it.

but alas, therein lies the rub.

I was not attempting to prove God exists as the OP claimed their post was.I was denying the ignorance of the unsubstantial evidence of proof of the OP’s ludicrous claim and provided the true evidence of math being written in the scripture.The last 9 pages haven’t proven that there is a God or that there isn’t a God nor will anyone ever do either

originally posted by: Rex282
I was not attempting to prove God exists as the OP claimed their post was.I was denying the ignorance of the unsubstantial evidence of proof of the OP’s ludicrous claim and provided the true evidence of math being written in the scripture.The last 9 pages haven’t proven that there is a God or that there isn’t a God nor will anyone ever do either

pareidolia by any other name...

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Rex282
I was not attempting to prove God exists as the OP claimed their post was.I was denying the ignorance of the unsubstantial evidence of proof of the OP’s ludicrous claim and provided the true evidence of math being written in the scripture.The last 9 pages haven’t proven that there is a God or that there isn’t a God nor will anyone ever do either

pareidolia by any other name...

That is incorrect.Pareidolia is the visual or auditory form of Apophenia(the human tendency to perceive meaningful patterns within random data.

The OP's post title and content statement is more akin to Pareidolia /Apophenia because they have made apopphenia statements then "drawn " a picture of a word (G-d) that is meaningless and is only a figment of their imagination.

My statement and calculations are not attempting to provide "proof" of the existence of a God.They are facts of words calculaed using the legitimate language of isopsephy and gematria that were in common use.There is nothing to read into the calculation sums because they are factual and need no proof.

a reply to: Rex282

and god is still missing. just ask oregon.

a reply to: Rex282

There is math embedded in the writings of the scriptures.The most apparent is in Hebrew Gematria and Greek Isopsephy where letters equal numbers.

There is math embedded in just about everything. Especially when you arbitrarily turn things into numbers and start multiplying and dividing them. These books have interesting patterns? Well lets sell the farm and buy some magic beans. You are basing this whole thing (and probably your life in many aspects) on the evidence that it has interesting patterns when you arbitrarily pick out random words and names and turn them into numbers and them arbitrarily choose to divide or multiply them until you get and interesting pattern and voila!!!! Scientific proof of gods existence. You say you're not claiming that, but that is obviously the end game.

Hint for you, people have been doing this for thousands of years. Look up Shakespeare and William Blake. Their writings have been through the numerology wringer many times. interesting patterns, but thats all it is. Oh yea, until someone starts translating what those patterns mean. Many smart people have lost their minds down the rabbit hole when they started hunting significant meaning in "interesting patterns".

I tell you what though, If you feel like you could explain your particular process to me, and account for all the steps you take (like, why choose the words you choose, and why divide instead of multiply). and answer my questions, i would be happy to join you in a new thread. Take your time, make it good and send me an invite. We'll talk about it and i'll give you my professional advice on why it does or does not stand up to scrutiny.

originally posted by: Woodcarver
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I tell you what though, If you feel like you could explain your particular process to me, and account for all the steps you take (like, why choose the words you choose, and why divide instead of multiply). and answer my questions, i would be happy to join you in a new thread. Take your time, make it good and send me an invite. We'll talk about it and i'll give you my professional advice on why it does or does not stand up to scrutiny.

Okay I'll take you up on.However I prefer you to start a thread or post in this one.Let me know which ,I have most of my answer already written.Thanks

a reply to: Rex282

Geez, i'll start it this weekend. But if i have to name the thread, You're probably not going to like it. See ya there.

originally posted by: Rex282

originally posted by: Woodcarver
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I tell you what though, If you feel like you could explain your particular process to me, and account for all the steps you take (like, why choose the words you choose, and why divide instead of multiply). and answer my questions, i would be happy to join you in a new thread. Take your time, make it good and send me an invite. We'll talk about it and i'll give you my professional advice on why it does or does not stand up to scrutiny.

Okay I'll take you up on.However I prefer you to start a thread or post in this one.Let me know which ,I have most of my answer already written.Thanks

The science of mathematics was created by man.
The belief in god was created by man (irrespective of anyone's ideology, that is the case).
Therefore it wouldn't be too difficult to "prove" the existence of a man-made object by a man-made discipline.
Especially if you wanted to...

originally posted by: Woodcarver
a reply to: Rex282

Geez, i'll start it this weekend. But if i have to name the thread, You're probably not going to like it. See ya there.

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To preface the following …my purpose to write this is not to convince anyone of the existence of a God because that is an impossibility and is futile.As for what the sums of this math will mean to anyone else but me I have no idea nor do I care I’m am only stating the facts of the math.If you want to argue the existence of God you have the wrong person.I don’t engage in that futility.The clear sums of this math leaves nothing to belief because they are facts of math.
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The new testimony is about the man named Yahoshua mashiach.The name Yahoshua in Hebrew means Yahweh(which means “I will be what I will be”) is deliverance /salvation.The name mashiach means the anointing which was symbolic of to rub or smear oil on a person that was imbued with the power of Yahweh.

The old testimony is mostly about a nation of people named Israel(which means struggles with Elohim.."God’s") .It’s patriarch is Jacob who was renamed Israel because he “struggled with Elohim”.He had sons(and grandsons) who became the 12 patriarchs of Israel.

These 12 names were symbolized on the breastplate Aaron the high priest (Moses brother) he wore when he entered the Holy of Holies section of the Tabernacle(tent) once a year to have a relationship by communing with Yahweh.The breastplate had 12 stones of which each represented the “names” of 12 tribes as the nation of Israel.The relationship between these names(Yahoshua and the nation of Israel) is the criteria foundation for these equations.
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Starting with the names of the 12 patriarchs of Israel in birth and breastplate order=
Reuben- Simeon- Judah-Dan-Naphtali-Gad-Asher-Issachar-Zebulun-Benjamin-Manasseh-Ephraim:

Aaron’s breastplate:



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Levi was the 3rd son of Israel.Levi became the priest tribe and eventually divided into the 4 priests .
Aaron -Gershon - Merari - Kohath

Joseph was the 11th born son.He gave his birthright to his 2 sons Manasseh and Ephraim.
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This is where the math process starts.The letter=name systems are called gematria(Hebrew) and isopsephy(Greek).Each letter in gematria and isopsephy is also a number.Add the letters of the name together to calculate the name’s sum.For instance.Hebrew gematria:
Judah=


This is Aaron’s breastplate matrix in gematria numbers of the patriarchs:



259+466+30+54+570+7+501+830+95+162+395+331=3700
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The 4 groups of the names of the nation of Israel in patterns.(includes 12 patriarchs and 4 priests).

Group#1(5 names)
30+466+259+
7+570=1332



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Group#2(4 names)
54+
95+830+501=1480



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Group#3(3 names)
331+395+162=888



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Group #4(4 names Levite priests)
262+450+505+559=1776



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2 non patriarch sons.
Levi=46
Joseph=156

Their numbers will be calculated in the last equations.
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Each group sum has a common link because they are all multiples of 37.
12 tribes=3700=100x37
5 tribes=1332=36x37
4 tribes=1480=40x37
3 tribes=888=24x37
4 priest=1776=48x37
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Here is a simple, clearly defined pattern of the sums of the patriarchs names.By adding every other patriarch name in the order of the breastplate(which is the birth order) they produce a simple, symmetrical, sum pattern.



Blue=Odd number names of the breastplate matrix(1-3-5-7-9-11)
259+30+570+501+95+395=1850

Yellow=Even number names of the breastplate matrix(2-4-6-8-10-12)
466+54+7+830+162+331=1850

1850+1850=3700
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Here is another pattern of 3700 divided in 1850 halves:


1+2+4+5+7
259+466+54+570+501=1850

3+6+8+9+10+11+12
30+7+830+95+162+395+331=1850
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3700÷4=925:

8+9:
830+95=925


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3+6+10+11+12:
30+7+162+395+331=925


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1+2+4+5+7:
259+466+54+570+501=1850


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More multiples of 37 (using patriarch numbers) in patterns #1-#6 :

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#1•1=259
#2•2+5=466+570=1036
#3•3+6=30+7=37
#4•4+7=54+501=555
#5•8+9=830+95=925
#6•10+11+12=162+395+331=888


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296 is a symmetrical multiple of 37(37x8).The 6 segments of the breastplate matrix as defined above ( each a multiple of 37) may be combined to generate the first nine multiples of the number 296 in sequence:
296-592-888-1184-1480-1776-2072-2664

1•#3+#1: 37+259=296
2•#3+#4: 37+55=592
3•#6: 888
4•#1+#5: 925+259=1184
5•#4+#5: 555+925=1480
6•#1+#3+4+#5: 259+37+555+925=1776
7•#1+#5+#6: 259+925+888=2072
8•#4+#5+#6: 555+925+888=2368
9•#1+#3+#4+#5+#6: 259+37+555+925+888=2664
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Patterns of triplet numbers(3 repeated numbers)summed from patriarch numbers…(“*” means patriarch numbers are repeated):
570+466+30+30+7+7=1110*
830+162+7=999
395+331+162=888
466+162+95+54=777
501+54+30+30+30+7+7+7=666*
501+54=555
259+95+30+30+30=444*
259+30+30+7+7=333*
162+30+30=222*
30+30+30+7+7+7=111*
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Pythagorean right triangle triple:
501+54+30+30+30+7+7+7=666*
395+331+162=888
570+466+30+30+7+7=1110*

6662+8882=11102
443,556+788,544=1,232,100
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Non math patterns.Add the 3 grouped digits of the above equations numbers:
443,556=443+556=999
788,544=788+544=1332
1,232,100=1+232+100=333

999+1332+333=2664
888x888=788,544
788,544÷296=2664
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another Pythagorean right triangle triple of patriarch numbers:
259=259
395+331+162=888
830+95=925

2592+8882=9252
67,081+788,544=855,625

More non math patterns.…..:Add the 3 grouped digits of the above equations numbers:
67,081=67+081=148
788,544=788+544=1332
855,625=855+625=1480

[148+1332=1480]
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This is only scratching the surface of the summed number patterns of the Israel patriarchs gematria numbers using simple arithmetic.

cont'd

The new testimony was written in Greek and is centered on a person named Yahoshua mashiach.The Greek translation of the Hebrew words Yahoshua mashiach are:
Yahoshua=Ιησούς=Iesous
mashiach= Χριστός=christos

In Greek isopsephy:
Ιησούς=888
Χριστός=1480
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When all three groups of the patriarch and the priests sums are taken into account in relationship(ratio) to Yahoshua name number, it forms one of the most significant mathematical theorem …. the Golden ratio(phi-Phi) as calculated by the Fibonacci number sequence.The mathematic “static” way to calculate the golden ratio of Phi is:
√5+1÷2=Phi
2.23606797749979+1÷2=1.618033988749895…..

The Fibonacci number (Fn for short) sequence calculates the same sum but is more precise because it is a progressive calculation and changes(grows) with each new set of Fn.Fibonacci numbers calculates phi-Phi by dividing adjacent Fn < > into each other.

The Fibonacci number sequence 0-13:

0-1-1-2-3-5-8-13-2-34-55-89-144-233…etc to infinity

As the Fn grow larger their ratio sum is closer to the “rounded” rational number 0.618(phi) or 1.618(Phi) but never reaches it because phi-Phi like Pi is an irrational number(never resolves)……

cont'd

Notice the beginning of the Fn calculations( Fn0-Fn11) do not all sum to “mathematical” phi-Phi(.618) yet because the ratio(relationship) is growing..
Fn0=0
Fn1=1
Fn2=1
Fn3=2
Fn4=3
Fn5=5
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Dividing Fn by adjacent Fn… moving up sequentially
0÷1=0
1÷0=0
1÷1=1
1÷1=1
1÷2=0.5
2÷1=2
2÷3=0.666…
3÷2=1.5
3÷5=0.6
5÷3=1.666……
etc etc..

It is a very distinctive symmetrical pattern that is not random.Notice any equation with a common divisor is always plus or minus”1”example:
1÷2=0.5
3÷2=1.5

That is the earmark of a Golden ratio and why it is the most significant ratio in math because:
1÷ 1.618033988749895= 0.618033988749895
1÷ 0.618033988749895= 1.618033988749895

The calculations I performed with the patriarchs names and Iesous christos(Yahoshua mashiach) are the “birth” of Golden ratio’s.I am going to calculate the ratio to the 4 grou"number(1776-1332-1480-888) to Iesous(Yahoshua) 888
0÷888=0
888÷0=0
888÷888=1
888÷888=1
888÷1776=0.5
1776÷888=2
888÷1332=0.666…
1332÷888=1.5
888÷1480=0.6
1480÷888=1.666….

These numbers have not reached 618 ph-Phi but combinations of some of the patriarchs names divided by 888(Iesous) and 2368(Iesous christos) sum to exactly the same number….0.618 phi and 1.618 Phi.

The sum of the names Iesous + christos:
Iesous=888
christos=1480
888=+1480=2368
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Issachar+Naphtali+Judah+Gad
830+570+30+7=1437
Manasseh+Ephraim+Benjamin
395+331+162=888
1437÷888=1.618,243,243…..(Phi)

Naphtali+Asher+Simeon+Manasseh+Ephraim+Zebulun+Judah+Gad
570+501+466+395+331+95+30+7=2395
Issachar+Asher+Zebulun+Dan=1480
830+501+95+54=1480
2395÷1480=1.618,243,243,….(Phi)

All patriarchs+Zebulun+Judah+Gad
3700+95+30+7=3832
Issachar+Asher+Zebulun+Dan
830+501+95+54=2368
3832÷2368=1.618,243,243…..(Phi)
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……with Levi(46) and Joseph(156)

Simeon+Levi+Judah+Gad
466+46+30+7=549
Manasseh+Ephraim+Benjamin
395+331+162=888
549÷888=0.618,243,243….(phi)

Asher+Ephraim+Levi+Judah+Gad
501+331+46+30+7=915
Issachar+Asher+Zebulun+Dan=1480
830+501+95+54=1480
915÷1480=0.618,243,243…..(phi)

Issachar+Manasseh+Joseph+Judah+Gad
830+ 395+156+46+30+7=1464
Issachar+Asher+Zebulun+Dan
830+501+95+54=2368
1464÷2368=0.618,243,243…(phi)

As I have stated over and over in every thread I make in one form or other…my purpose is not to propagate what I believe, it is to deny ignorance of what is not truth and to state what is truth.

a reply to: TheLamb

Yep, it spells "G-D" just as the Jews write it in English

I think you're stretching. Most would say that the name of god is JHVH.