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If there are non-terrestrial beings here on earth or visiting the planet, they would certainly be more advanced than us, but why would they come to Earth? It can't be for the resources, as they will already have the technological knowledge to mine lifeless planets, and as for invasion reasons, they would have already have completed it. The other more practicable and logical reason for their presence is that of non-interventionary observance.
originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: amicktd
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To the OP,
My favorite UFO stories come from ex military who were attached to nuclear weapon silos and their stories of UFOs shutting down said nukes.
originally posted by: chrismarco
So the genocide, murder, rape of children...all ok...just don't use nukes...we are not that special..Get over it Edgar...
originally posted by: Kandinsky
If the UFO flaps were actually caused by aliens, they sort of effed up on the Prime Directive ethos...
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
a reply to: trifecta
This is coming from a guy, who lives and dies by a secular mythology concocted by peasants who lived in wooden shacks and straw huts in the desert 2000 years ago.
AND there it is!!! So my religious beliefs belong in this alien forum? Okay I will go there.....Guess what? Over thousands of people VERIFIED Jesus on Earth.....Show me one alien...
Crickets will be a chirpin again.....Thanks for making this about religion as well, typical alien defense tactic when asked for PROOF....But but you believe in Jesus.....PFFT
Any mainstream proof, you won't except right? I guess when a small armada of flying discs was photographed and reported in multiple newspapers and counties, hovering over the White House, back in the Truman era, it was just some elaborate hoax? Frisbees? Swamp gas? Mass hysteria? Propaganda designed to scare Russian? All of those newspapers and photographers were in on a hoax. Gotcha
Mainstream proof?? Oh you mean you HEARD there was a UFO over the white house...Yeah me too...Independence day had one of those...PROVE IT!!!!
All you need to do is absorb the information released by NASA current missions. Convenient technical issues, feigned ineptitude, B&W images, airbushing, lack of HD, the list goes on endlessly......
Jim Oberg (our local NASA ATS member) has proven all this wrong (among many others on here)....NEXT
Do you realize you people had better telemetry and imaging presented to you back in the '70's, then you do now? This is from tech over 60 years old! Sure, let's keep feeding those idiot American the same B&W photos of the Moon, that we've been peddling for decades!
Yeah those plates thrown in the air where photoshopped differently then....Your point?
Here's a simple fix for you, your holiness. Go down to yer locale Crackerbarrel, and trade a few of your chickens and goats for a decent, high powered, amateur telescope. "Go on duh YouTube, hu-huh!", and find a how to video on rigging the inendated, overpriced spyglass comes in greyscale, for color HD. You may have to trade a few more of your livestock or your rosarybeads so you can purchase some fancy stuff from those Chinese, you get your brown spaghetti from.
Okay attack me for asking to provide proof.....You just keep on hoping for them aliens to come.....
Then go point it at the Moon. Be sure to wear your diapers, because I'd hate to see a good pair of Underoos got to waste....
Aww....Someone is upset because they have no proof? It's okay I knew you had none, nor could provide any....Simpleton
originally posted by: Chrisfishenstein
originally posted by: FinalCountdown
a reply to: Chrisfishenstein
UFO, spaceships and imaginary gods.
The ufos are not impressed with your logic.
Yay...Another smart butt like me....Hehe
We gots us enough of us around here that's for dang sure!
God isn't impressed by your logic either....
DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE
HEADQUARTERS 341ST COMBAT SUPPORT GROUP (SAC)
MALMSTROM AIR FORCE BASE, MT 590402
ATTN OF: BO 3 July 1967
SUBJECT: UFO Observations, Malmstrom AFB Area
to: Colonel James C. Manatt (lettered TDET/UFO)
HQ Foreign Technology Division (AFSC)
Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio 45433
1. Reference TDET/UFO letter dated 30 June 1967 on above subject.
2. This office has no knowledge of equipment malfunctions and abnormalities in equipment during the period of reported UFO sightings. No validity can be established to the statement that a classified government experiment was in progress or that military and civilian personnel were requested not to discuss what they had seen.
3. A written report on the events that transpired during the alleged UFO reported landing on 24 March 1967, fully documents all findings by the investigating officer. A copy of this report was forwarded to your office on 3 April 1967.
4. If we can be of further assistance to you, please do not hesitate to write.
FOR THE COMMANDER
LEWIS D. CHASE, Lt Colonel, USAF
Chief, Operations Division
Robert Kaminski's Letter
“Since this was a field site peculiar incident, a determination was made to send out an investigation team to survey the LCF [Echo Launch Control Facility] and the LFs [Launch Facilities, or silos] to determine what failures or related incidents could be found to explain the cause. The team was made up of qualified engineers and technicians headed by scientific person who was a glaciologist. There were about 5 persons in all that were sent out. After a week in the field the team returned and pooled their data. At the outset the team quickly noticed a lack of anything that would come close to explain why the event occurred. There were no significant failures, engineering data or findings that would explain how ten missiles were knocked off alert. This indeed turned out to be a rare event and not encountered before. The use of backup power systems and other technical system circuit operational redundancy strongly suggests that this kind of event is virtually impossible once the system was up and running and on line with other LCF's and LF's interconnectivity.
[After months of investigation,] the team met with me to report their findings and it was decided that the final report would have nothing significant in it to explain what happened at E-Flight. In other words there was no technical explanation that could explain the event. The team went off to do the report. Meanwhile I was contacted by our representative at OOAMA (Don Peterson) and told by him that the incident was reported as being a UFO event—That a UFO was seen by some Airmen over the LCF [sic] at the time E-Flight went down.
Subsequently, we were notified a few days later, that a stop work order was on the way from OOAMA to stop any further effort on this project. We stopped. We were also told that we were not to submit the final engineering report. This was most unusual since all of our work required review by the customer and the submittal of a final Engineering report to OOAMA.”
Minot AFB UFO Encounter
In the early morning hours of 24 Oct. 1968, United States Air Force (USAF) maintenance and security personnel stationed within the Minuteman, Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) complex surrounding Minot AFB, North Dakota, observed one—and at times—two UFOs. The Minot Base Operations dispatcher initiated radio communications with personnel reporting in the field, Minot, Radar Approach Control (RAPCON), and the crew of a returning B-52H aircraft.
RAPCON alerted the pilots to the location of a UFO, which the B-52 navigator observed on the radarscope maintaining a three-mile distance throughout a standard 180° turnaround. As the B-52 started its descent back to Minot AFB, the UFO appeared to close distance to one mile at a high-rate of speed, pacing the aircraft for nearly 20 miles before disappearing off the radarscope. Both B-52 UHF radios would not transmit during the close radar encounter with the UFO and radarscope film was recorded.
Shortly afterwards, RAPCON provided vectors for the B-52 to overfly a stationary UFO on or near the ground. After turning onto the downwind leg of the traffic pattern, the pilots observed a large, illuminated UFO ahead of the aircraft for several minutes, before turning onto the base leg over the UFO while observing it at close range. After the B-52 landed, both outer and inner-zone intrusions alarms were activated at the remote missile Launch Facility Oscar-7. The duration of reported observations was over three hours.
USAF Strategic Air Command, Offutt AFB, Nebraska, initiated inquiries. In the weeks following, staff at USAF Project Blue Book, Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio, completed a final case report mandated by Air Force Regulation 80-17.
Soviet Nukes and UFOs
"For a short time," retired Air Force Colonel Boris Sokolov told ABC TV News Moscow correspondent David Ensor, "signal lights on both the control panels suddenly turned on, the lights showing that missiles were preparing for launching. This could normally only happen if an order was transmitted from Moscow." As director of the Ministry of Defense's effort for "research into the field of anomalous phenomena in the atmosphere and in outer space," Sokolov became a member of the four-man commission set up to investigate the so-called Usovo case.
. Major Kataman did not see the UFOs flying above because he was, at the time, on shift in the underground bunker. But what he did see was, militarily speaking, the stuff of nightmares in his line of work.
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Edgar Mitchell is part of the soft disclosure movement, when people say "the truth is out there" all you have to do is listen to folks like Mitchell with an open mind.